Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #10

[Simply Southern]

Listen as an officer in Israel’s Coordination and Liaison Administration to Gaza informs the manager of the Shifa Hospital with evacuation passages from the hospital:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723649458779369577

The conversation with the hospital representative certainly has a different tone, than the previous hospital administrator, requesting evacuation from the pediatric hospital.
The predatric hospital coordinated an exact time, 11:20, hands raised and white flags. He seemed truly vested in securing safe passage. He repeated all directions and instructions back to IDF several times. I was very impressed.

Not sure this administrator has true interest in evacuating citizens or the NICU patients.

Hoping and praying this hospital will do the right thing and evacuate.

Moo

Moo...

 

[Simply Southern]

The IDF also said that in recent days Israel’s Coordination and Liaison Administration for Gaza (CLA) “spoke with the manager of the Shifa Hospital multiple times and presented him with possible passages from the hospital.”

2 hr 1 min ago

Red Cross unable to confirm any evacuations from Al-Shifa hospital​

The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) has told CNN that the Committee can’t confirm any evacuations from Al-Shifa hospital in northern Gaza.

Is Al-Shifa going to be held responsible for the deaths of NICU infants?

Where is the UN and WHO request for them to evacuate and let the people go?

Red Cross and WHO are unable to reach the hospital staff, amazing they speak to the media and Twitter frequently.

I am more confident, this hospital is the main base for Hamas.
Moo...

 

[PommyMommy]

13min ago

IDF uses new tactics to involve intel in Gaza war, killing 7 terrorists in 10 minutes​

It says there are dozens of small teams in the Military Intelligence Directorate that work with individual divisions and brigades that are operating in Gaza.

The teams, being used for the first time, are tasked with collecting intelligence from various sources in the Military Intelligence Directorate and other agencies, and making them accessible to forces on the ground.

In an example given by the IDF, an intelligence team for the Golani Brigade notified troops on the ground that there were a number of Hamas operatives near them. Within 10 minutes, the troops directed artillery fire and engaged the gunmen, killing seven of them.

9min ago

Rights group: Armed settlers in partial IDF uniform intimidate Palestinians in West Bank​

Armed and masked Israelis have been filmed entering a school in a-Tuwani, in the south Hebron Hills of the West Bank, appearing to impersonate soldiers as they tear down a Palestinian flag and intimidate local residents, the Yesh Din rights group says, citing reports from local residents.

The Israelis arrived in a car with license plates removed, were in partial IDF uniform and fled the scene upon the arrival of Israeli reserve soldiers, the left-wing group says.

[...]

The West Bank has seen a massive uptick in deadly settler violence since the outbreak of the Israel-Hamas war.

The Biden administration has called on Israel to condemn and curb the phenomenon and prosecute those responsible. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said last week that he told US President Joe Biden that a small group of extremists are responsible and that they don’t represent the settlement movement.

 

[fred&edna]

"A fool's errand" you say.

So, those who yearn for peace there are fools?

Peace is the goal for those of us who are civil. It is only fools who believe "they" (the ruling Islamic fundamentalists) understand the meaning of peace. They have said for years... they won't stop until they have rid the world of infidels. The meaning is clear. They laugh at the fools protesting on their behalf... they already KNOW peace is not their goal.

imo

 

[PommyMommy]

Is Al-Shifa going to be held responsible for the deaths of NICU infants?

Where is the UN and WHO request for them to evacuate and let the people go?

Red Cross and WHO are unable to reach the hospital staff, amazing they speak to the media and Twitter frequently.

I am more confident, this hospital is the main base for Hamas.
Moo...

I have a LOT of questions about why and how those babies were moved to the surgical theatre. I am sitting on my hands until further information is released. MOO

 

[Simply Southern]

2h ago / 6:13 AM PST

There could be a deal to free hostages, Netanyahu tells ‘Meet the Press’​

In an interview with Kristen Welker, Netanyahu said no deal was close until his forces began the ground operation in Gaza. “We heard that there was an impending deal of this kind or of that kind and then we learned that it was all hokum. But the minute we started the ground operation that began to change,” he said.

Asked if he knew where all the hostages were being held right now, he said, “We know a great deal, but I won’t go beyond that.” He added that if a deal was available, “we will talk about it when it’s there. We’ll announce it if it’s achievable.”

8m ago / 7:37 AM PST

Netanyahu says Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital refused Israel offer of fuel​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today, told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that his country offered fuel to Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospital last night, but it was “refused.”

“We offered actually, last night, to give them enough fuel to operate the hospital, operate the incubators and so on, because we have, obviously, no battle with patients or civilians at all,” he told host Kristen Welker.

“They refused it,” he added after he was pressed on the matter.

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Patients die at Al-

2h ago / 6:13 AM PST

There could be a deal to free hostages, Netanyahu tells ‘Meet the Press’​

In an interview with Kristen Welker, Netanyahu said no deal was close until his forces began the ground operation in Gaza. “We heard that there was an impending deal of this kind or of that kind and then we learned that it was all hokum. But the minute we started the ground operation that began to change,” he said.

Asked if he knew where all the hostages were being held right now, he said, “We know a great deal, but I won’t go beyond that.” He added that if a deal was available, “we will talk about it when it’s there. We’ll announce it if it’s achievable.”

8m ago / 7:37 AM PST

Netanyahu says Gaza's Al-Shifa hospital refused Israel offer of fuel​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu today, told NBC News’ “Meet the Press” that his country offered fuel to Gaza’s Al-Shifa hospital last night, but it was “refused.”

“We offered actually, last night, to give them enough fuel to operate the hospital, operate the incubators and so on, because we have, obviously, no battle with patients or civilians at all,” he told host Kristen Welker.

“They refused it,” he added after he was pressed on the matter.

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Patients die at Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza (nbcnews.com)

Shifa hospital in Gaza (nbcnews.com)

I watched this live. Kristen did an excellent job. She gave Netanyahu ample time to answer questions and explain without interruption. I was quite surprised.

He was excellent!!!

Moo

 

[Sundog]

'Hamas-backing' Egyptian TV presenter has visa revoked by Home Office

Exiled TV presenter Moataz Matar who has nearly 4.3 million subscribers on YouTube, celebrated the murders of the wife and daughters of Rabbi Leo Dee in the West Bank earlier this year

www.dailymail.co.uk

'There can be zero tolerance for visitors to the UK who abuse the privilege of a visa and endorse evil terrorist acts,' Jenrick told the newspaper.
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We need to do the same thing here in the U.S. for anyone who holds a U.S. visa (whether for work, tourism, visiting family, or a student studying at our colleges and universities) and supports terrorism. I hope Congress is looking at this.

 

[Sundog]

The @IDF found civilians who hadn't evacuated Shati yet. It secured an evacuation route for them to get to safety. Gazan terrorists fired at the troops securing the safe passage of Gazan civilians. We killed the terrorists.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1723619073899045339

International agencies in Gaza—@ICRC, @WHO, @ochaopt—have actively put Palestinian civilians’ lives at risk.For a month, they’ve refused to support an evacuation from north.Now they’re endangering everyone by requiring a hasty evacuation in the middle of ground urban warfare.

We hold Hamas responsible for all tragic civilian deaths in Gaza—those killed by its misfired rockets and those it prevented from evacuating—but @UN agencies also need to take a long, hard look in the mirror about their complicity with Hamas' human shield strategy.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723654813634678997

From the article -

. . . @UN agencies also need to take a long, hard look in the mirror about their complicity with Hamas' human shield strategy.

 

[PommyMommy]

3m ago / 8:39 AM PST

Bipartisan group of U.S. lawmakers visiting Israel, to meet with Netanyahu​

A bipartisan group of congressional U.S. lawmakers are visiting Israel today to assess the situation in the country.

Among the group is Reps. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, chair of the House Foreign Affairs Committee; Gregory Meeks, D-N.Y., ranking member of the committee; as well as Reps. John James, R-Mich.; Jared Moskowitz, D-Fla.; Michael Lawler, R-N.Y.; Madeleine Dean, D-Pa.; and Max Miller, R-Ohio. Sens. Jerry Moran, R-Kan., and John Hoeven, R-N.D., are also traveling with the group.

While in Israel, the lawmakers are expected to take part in a classified embassy briefing and hold a meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. They will also meet with officials with the country's Ministry of Defense.

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Deaths reported at Gaza’s largest hospital as WHO loses contact

Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the Israel-Hamas war: WHO loses contact with Gaza's main hospital, at-risk babies begin to die as power shuts off.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[PommyMommy]

Israel has been under attack on multiple fronts since October 7, with sirens sounding from north to south. Here is the IDF International Spokesperson with more details:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723741631076053297

 

[Simply Southern]

I have a LOT of questions about why and how those babies were moved to the surgical theatre. I am sitting on my hands until further information is released. MOO

Edited to delete comment re photo of infants. Can't locate currently

The ventilator dependent and CPAP can be "bagged", manual resuscitation, it's such a short distance.

Infants are on low litter flow 02, less than a litter and most on .25. Over oxygenating infants result increased to CO2 and most common blindness. There is a fine line.

Not sure what the final destination for the NICU infants. The pediatric Cancer patients were evacuated to Turkey.

Also, recent floating hospital off shore.

I feel sure there is a plan. If they are released IDF is going to insure care, especially with the media attention these doctors have created.
All my opinion and a little bit of experience evacuating/relocating critical care infants.

Reference ...

Oxygen Therapy for Neonatal Resuscitation in the Delivery Room - PubMed

Oxygen is commonly used in the delivery room during neonatal resuscitation. The transition from intrauterine to extrauterine life is a challenge to newborns, and exposure to too much oxygen can cause an increase in oxidative stress. The goal of resuscitation is to achieve normal oxygen levels as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The goal of resuscitation is to achieve normal oxygen levels as quickly as possible while avoiding excessive oxygen exposure and preventing inadequate oxygen supplementation. Although it has been shown that room air resuscitation is as effective as using 100% oxygen, often preterm infants need some degree of oxygen supplementation. The ideal concentration of oxygen with which to initiate resuscitation is yet to be determined. Current delivery room resuscitation guidelines recommend the use of room air for term newborns and preterm newborns of greater than or equal to 35 weeks' gestation and the use of a fraction of inspired oxygen of 0.21 to 0.3 for preterm infants of less than 35 weeks' gestation. Further recommendations include titrating oxygen supplementation as needed to obtain goal saturations.

 

[PommyMommy]

The photo of the three infants posted, shows one on nasal CPAP with a feeding tube, one on O2 nasal cannula and I couldn't see the third well.

The ventilator dependent and CPAP can be "bagged", manual resuscitation, it's such a short distance.

Infants are on low litter flow 02, less than a litter and most on .25. Over oxygenating infants result increased to CO2 and most common blindness. There is a fine line.

Not sure what the final destination for the NICU infants. The pediatric Cancer patients were evacuated to Turkey.

Also, recent floating hospital off shore.

I feel sure there is a plan. If they are released IDF is going to insure care, especially with the media attention these doctors have created.
All my opinion and a little bit of experience evacuating/relocating critical care infants.

Reference ...

Oxygen Therapy for Neonatal Resuscitation in the Delivery Room - PubMed

Oxygen is commonly used in the delivery room during neonatal resuscitation. The transition from intrauterine to extrauterine life is a challenge to newborns, and exposure to too much oxygen can cause an increase in oxidative stress. The goal of resuscitation is to achieve normal oxygen levels as...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The goal of resuscitation is to achieve normal oxygen levels as quickly as possible while avoiding excessive oxygen exposure and preventing inadequate oxygen supplementation. Although it has been shown that room air resuscitation is as effective as using 100% oxygen, often preterm infants need some degree of oxygen supplementation. The ideal concentration of oxygen with which to initiate resuscitation is yet to be determined. Current delivery room resuscitation guidelines recommend the use of room air for term newborns and preterm newborns of greater than or equal to 35 weeks' gestation and the use of a fraction of inspired oxygen of 0.21 to 0.3 for preterm infants of less than 35 weeks' gestation. Further recommendations include titrating oxygen supplementation as needed to obtain goal saturations.

I somehow missed the photo you're referring to. Can you point it out to me or link, please? Thank you.

 

[fred&edna]

Has this been posted? (Sorry, I'm behind already.)

https://x.com/Ofirlin/status/1723692482519609843?s=20

 

[Simply Southern]

I somehow missed the photo you're referring to. Can you point it out to me or link, please? Thank you.

Hang on, it's several pages back

 

[Arkay]

But, somehow Hamas (Islamic Fundamentalism) is the boss in Gaza and they want to rid the world of Jews. We have ALL heard them say it over and over and over for... uhmmm, how many years?? They don't want to live anywhere in peace and prosperity... they have to murder all the infidels all across the world. The only language they seem to comprehend is violence. They are ruining everyone who isn't one of them. Trying to live in peace with them is... a fool's errand.

"A fool's errand" you say.

So, those who yearn for peace there are fools?

@Dotta IMO the post by @fred&edna to which you are responding very clearly states why it’s a fool’s errand.

IMO it’s an over-simplification to reduce this to “so, those who yearn for peace there are fools?”

Israelis and Jewish people in the Diaspora of course long for peace. They just want to live their lives. However, as pointed out by @fred&edna, the thirst for peace is only one-sided.

What gestures of peace have been forthcoming by Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad and all other terrorist groups? There cannot be peace on one side while war is still being declared by the enemy.

Israel is escorting Gazan infants to safety. Hamas threw an Israeli infant into an oven to burn alive, and mutilated, murdered, tortured or kidnapped many other babies, toddlers and children.

It‘s asymmetrical and Israel has been backed into a corner. Their only choice now is to destroy Hamas. Hamas made that decision for them on October 7th.


It‘s a fool’s errand to allow one side to be sitting ducks when the enemy does not yearn for peace as well; when the enemy has declared, and their mission statement boldly demands, the death of Israel, all Jews, America, and Western civilization.

Was World War II a fool’s errand? Yes, it was disastrous and so many military and civilians died. But the alternative was to allow Hitler to conquer the world.

You're in Poland so I know I don’t need to point out the cataclysm this would have been for your family, for the rest of Europe, and for the world.

On October 6th, those kibbutzim and festival goers were peace-minded. They had no idea the plans Hamas had in store for them.

IMO.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I am failing to understand why we did not have this very vocal worldwide concern for the children and women of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria and the situation going on in South Africa right now ? Those children and women were/are in just as much danger from missles, bombing and ground war fare. We did not have calls for a cease fire or the Pro-marches in for the innocent citizens when the U.S., U.K and other allied forces were fighting against the Taliban, ISIS, ISIL or for citizens being targeted by the RSF in South Africa. We did not have our cities under seige from the "peaceful" protestors, monuments damaged, or the call to wipe out the citizens of the U.S., UK and other allied forces.

I honestly do not understand the Pro Palestine/Anti-Israel movement happening in the world right now compared to the silence in other conflicts/wars. Ukraine has been fighting against Russia for almost 2 years now and sure a lot of people changed their social media profiles to the colors of the Ukrainian flag but worldwide marches to protest against the innocent civilans of Ukraine being killed by Russian troops did not happen.

If Hamas or Isis governed Mexico or Canda and entered the U.S. and brutally murdered and raped 1400+ U.S. citizens, does anyone really think the U.S. wouldn't bomb the hell out of every location they thought the terrorists were hiding ?

IMO, the citizens of the U.S., U.K., Germany, France, Spain, Sweden, etc should be praying Israel wipes out Hamas because ISIS, ISIL and other terrorists groups are watching this worldwide condemnation of Israel defending itself..and are preparing to strike us all.

Because, IMO, nobody wants to hurt the terrorists (Hamas) feelings.
Have you noticed that many countries and organizations haven’t even condemned the 10/7 massacre? Won’t call Hamas a terrorist organization? Including the UN and Red Cross.
The PA, who is hoping to govern Gaza after the war, has not yet condemned the massacre. Actually, they have been laughing and praising this accomplishment, as I’ve seen on Middle East TV.
Do you know that some in the Middle East/Gaza/West Bank are busy mocking the accent of the IDF officers calling to try to help civilians out? Instead of helping to evacuate innocent civilians and babies.
So, IMO, many heads of state are saying what the world wants to hear, but they don’t want Israel to ceasefire. They want Hamas wiped off the face of the earth because they know they’re next.
They know Hamas is controlling every word and image coming out of Gaza. Because Hamas knows how to work the narrative. They know how to strike just the right nerve.
All JMO.

 

[PommyMommy]

6:55 pm

Visiting Israel, GOP presidential candidate Christie says truce calls ‘make no sense’​

[...]

“We can’t ask Israel to stand down if they believe there is still a legitimate violent threat against them and their people. And I think there is no question that there is. And so they must continue to fight until they have degraded that capability to a point where they can say to their people, come back and live her safely and securely. Until that comes, I don’t think calls for a ceasefire make any sense,” Christie says while touring the ruins of Kibbutz Kfar Aza, devastated by Hamas.

[...]

“In the future, we need to stand absolutely shoulder to shoulder with Israel, no daylight,” he adds, standing next to Knesset Speaker Amir Ohana, who accompanied Christie to southern Israel.

“I intend to go back to the US and talk about this regularly so that the American people who are being asked to sacrifice and to help Israel financially and militarily will know that what they are doing is not only a noble effort on their part, but also what friends do for friends. America has no greater friend in the world than Israel,” Christie continues.

[...]

 

[PommyMommy]

17m ago / 8:54 AM PST

Hezbollah says it targeted an IDF bulldozer, IDF says several wounded by group's missiles​

Hezbollah issued a statement today saying that it "targeted a bulldozer" belonging to the IDF near Dovev in northern Israel, close to the country's border with Lebanon.

The militant organization said the attack was part of its support efforts with Palestinians in the Gaza Strip.

The IDF confirmed it was exchanging fire with Hezbollah today, saying multiple civilians were injured near Dovev after the group launched anti-tank missiles. Israel's military later said that seven soldiers were injured and it was firing back at the origin of the missile launches.

"15 launches from Lebanon were identified in the past hour," the IDF said in a post on X today. "The IDF Aerial Defense Array intercepted 4 of the launches, with the rest falling in open areas."

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Deaths reported at Gaza’s largest hospital as WHO loses contact

Follow NBC News' coverage for live updates about the Israel-Hamas war: WHO loses contact with Gaza's main hospital, at-risk babies begin to die as power shuts off.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

IDF says it supplied 300 liters of fuel for "urgent medical purposes" at Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, but Hamas prevented the medical center from receiving it.Early this morning troops placed the jerrycans near the hospital, as had been coordinated in advance with officials at Shifa.It says that later "the IDF received evidence that Hamas officials prevented the hospital from receiving the fuel."The military publishes a call between an IDF officer and a senior Gazan health official, who says that Yousef Abu-Al Rish, the deputy health minister in Gaza, forbade the hospital from receiving the fuel.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1723747056852893702

 

[PapillonVert]

I'm grateful for your father's service.

I am as well!