Momoffourboys
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The volunteers of ZAKA, who have already seen it all, were horrified by the atrocities in Kibbutz Be'eri
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Oh no. I have been worrying about the camera crew on live cams, getting the visuals broadcast to the world.53s ago
A Reuters videographer has been killed while working in southern Lebanon, the news agency said.
A Reuters statement said:
Issam was part of the agency’s crew in southern Lebanon who was providing a live video signal, Reuters said.
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UN says tens of thousands have fled south in Gaza after Israel’s evacuation order – as it happened
More than 400,000 in Gaza were already internally displaced before Israel’s evacuation order, UN humanitarian office sayswww.theguardian.com
I see the conspiracy theories are making their way about. Israel did NOT allow this to happen. They simply cannot afford to allow wars "to happen."
Of course there were security failures and there were warnings that may have been 'geo-misplaced' by Israel. I use the word geo-misplaced as I suspect Israel may have thought the threat was to the west bank area where the population of Jewish persons is more highly concentrated than the Kibbutz' dotting the south and bordering the Gaza.
I'll toss in this link for a good read. Hindsight is always 20/20, but this piece was published in August.
The answers to just "what went wrong" to allow this to ever happen in the first place will be forthcoming at some point in the future. It will studied to death so that it is never allowed to happen again.
But that time is not now. Israel has a war to fight right now. But I guarantee Israel will learn the lessons of what happened with this failure of security.
The simply HAVE TO learn those lessons because the minute they ever lose a war --- they will cease to exist. That is their reality. Every. Single. Day. They did not "allow" this war "to happen".
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Signs Of Possible War In September-October
Lately there have been growing indications that a war against Israel may break out in September or October 2023.www.memri.org
Footnote 1 is seeming very apt today.
Egypt has closed the borders to Gazans (nobody besides the US wants refugees anymore).Agreed.
If nothing else, if Hamas didn't allow them to stockpile food/fuel/etc., they still had time to flee.
Omo.
This is such a contradictory statement.Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as Palestinian death toll in Gaza rises from attacks (cnn.com)
33 min ago
US defense secretary: "This is no time for neutrality, or for false equivalence"
A forceful US Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin pledged unwavering US support to Israel in the wake of the deadly Hamas attack, stressing that “this is no time for neutrality, or for false equivalence or for excuses for the inexcusable.”
“In times like these, sometimes the best thing that a friend can do is just to show up and to get to work,” said Austin emphatically offering full US support to Israel at a joint news conference.
The defense secretary who is traveling to Israel today offered a soft reminder to the Israelis that “this is a time for resolve and not revenge” as the IDF is under scrutiny for causing civilian casualties in Gaza in response to the Hamas attack.
“Democracies like ours are stronger and more secure when we uphold the laws of war,” Austin said.
Austin also pledged continued US support with munitions. Israeli Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said Israel is expecting the second shipment of lethal military aid from the US today as Israel warns civilians to evacuate Gaza.
“US security assistance to Israel will flow in at the speed of war,” said Austin.
I wonder if even the terrorists were using the internet and maybe they could track some of them or use that to their advantage when they communicated and could intercept any of it?Can't believe they didn't cut it off sooner
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All internet service will be cut off from Gaza starting soon.
BBm: I was also wondering about cruise ships maybe being a way to move more people out of the way. On Saturday, there were two cruise ships at the port when the attack came. They waited for their passengers to return before leaving. One ship had to leave without all of their passengers. I would hate to be on such a big target but it could be a way to move some of the Palestinians to leave. Maybe Egypt would let them dock? IDK but just a thought.It's war. Israel is warning civilians to get out of the way, but after that, it's not really something Israel is responsible for. Not at the moment, anyway.
War is hell. Nothing about it is good or easy (not suggesting anyone thinks it is, of course).
I wonder if ships could be used as housing? idk
jmo