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The volunteers of ZAKA, who have already seen it all, were horrified by the atrocities in Kibbutz Be'eri
Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #3
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Blinken says US working to establish 'safe areas' in Gaza
US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken has just held a joint press conference with Qatari prime minister Sheikh Mohammed Bin Abdulrahman al-Thani, in Doha.Here are some of the key points:
- Blinken said he had asked Israel to take "every possible precaution" to avoid Gaza civilian deaths, and recognised that many families in Gaza are suffering "through no fault of their own"
- He confirmed that the US was involved in discussions with Israel and "leading international organisations" to establish "safe areas" in Gaza
- Blinked said details would emerge "in the coming days"
- Efforts to get humanitarian aid into Gaza are "complicated" by the fact that Hamas are continuing to "use innocent civilians as human shields"
- The US government and Qatar are working to secure the release of hostages held in Gaza
- The US will "ensure Israel has what it needs" to defend itself, Blinken said, adding that "every country" needs to condemn Hamas' actions and hold them accountable
US pressing for safe zones for Gaza civilians
Barbara Plett UsherUS State Department correspondent
US Secretary of State Antony Blinken talked with Israel's government about the need to establish safe areas for civilians in Gaza.
This is what a state department official told journalists earlier today before travelling to Qatar, the second stop on Blinken’s Middle East trip.
He had little to say about UN warnings that a 24-hour evacuation order for northern Gaza issued by the Israel Defense Forces would have disastrous consequences.
But he underlined that the administration was working with the UN and the International Committee of the Red Cross to create these safe locations, possibly in the south of the strip.
Blinken’s message has been laser focused on rock solid support for Israel, and on restraint in the region – a warning for other armed Iran-backed groups not to join the fight.
In Qatar he’s also discussing attempts to rescue hostages held in Gaza. Doha has contacts with Hamas and has taken the lead in trying to facilitate their release.
Critics have denounced America’s unwavering support for Israel as a green light for forceful Israeli military actions in Gaza.
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Oh no. I have been worrying about the camera crew on live cams, getting the visuals broadcast to the world.53s ago
A Reuters videographer has been killed while working in southern Lebanon, the news agency said.
A Reuters statement said:
Issam was part of the agency’s crew in southern Lebanon who was providing a live video signal, Reuters said.
UN says tens of thousands have fled south in Gaza after Israel’s evacuation order – as it happened
More than 400,000 in Gaza were already internally displaced before Israel’s evacuation order, UN humanitarian office sayswww.theguardian.com
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Over the past day, the IDF conducted raids in the territory of the Gaza Strip in an effort to eliminate the threat of terrorists and weapons in the area and locate hostages.
IDF soldiers searched and collected evidence that would assist in the effort to locate hostages.
In addition, IDF soldiers thwarted terrorist cells and infrastructure located in the area, including a Hamas cell that fired anti-tank missiles toward Israeli territory.
In addition, the IAF continued its strikes on Hamas terror targets in the Gaza Strip, as well as strikes on anti-tank missile launchers immediately after they attacked Israel.
IDF soldiers searched and collected evidence that would assist in the effort to locate hostages.
In addition, IDF soldiers thwarted terrorist cells and infrastructure located in the area, including a Hamas cell that fired anti-tank missiles toward Israeli territory.
In addition, the IAF continued its strikes on Hamas terror targets in the Gaza Strip, as well as strikes on anti-tank missile launchers immediately after they attacked Israel.
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I see the conspiracy theories are making their way about. Israel did NOT allow this to happen. They simply cannot afford to allow wars "to happen."
Of course there were security failures and there were warnings that may have been 'geo-misplaced' by Israel. I use the word geo-misplaced as I suspect Israel may have thought the threat was to the west bank area where the population of Jewish persons is more highly concentrated than the Kibbutz' dotting the south and bordering the Gaza.
I'll toss in this link for a good read. Hindsight is always 20/20, but this piece was published in August.
The answers to just "what went wrong" to allow this to ever happen in the first place will be forthcoming at some point in the future. It will studied to death so that it is never allowed to happen again.
But that time is not now. Israel has a war to fight right now. But I guarantee Israel will learn the lessons of what happened with this failure of security.
The simply HAVE TO learn those lessons because the minute they ever lose a war --- they will cease to exist. That is their reality. Every. Single. Day. They did not "allow" this war "to happen".
Signs Of Possible War In September-October
Lately there have been growing indications that a war against Israel may break out in September or October 2023.www.memri.org
Footnote 1 is seeming very apt today.
Very true regarding hindsight. I wish security and intel had been beefed up, as Netanyahu addressed the UN just a couple or three weeks ago (Sept 22) warning of fanatics in Iran.
Now you know, Ladies and Gentlemen, you know there’s a fly in this ointment, because rest assured, the fanatics ruling Iran will do everything they can to thwart this historic peace. Iran continues to spend billions to arm its terror proxies. It continues to extend its terror tentacles in the Middle East, Europe, Asia, South America, even North America. They even tried to assassinate the Secretary of State of the United States of America. They even tried to assassinate the National Security Advisor of the United States of America. This tell you all you need to know about Iran’s murderous intentions and Iran’s murderous nature.
Full text of Netanyahu’s UN address: ‘On the cusp of historic Saudi-Israel peace’
The PM predicts the potential blessing of 'a new Middle East,' says 'fanatics' leading Iran will try to stop it, urges Palestinians to 'finally embrace' the Jewish state
www.timesofisrael.com
Egypt has closed the borders to Gazans (nobody besides the US wants refugees anymore).
Furthermore, armed Palestinian groups have pulled enough stunts in neighboring countries over the generations to cause local welcome mats to get rolled up- even before these countries got tired of refugees.
Sure, Gazan civilians showing up at the Egyptian crossing with enough cash or with an Egyptian wife, or both, will find the welcome mat unrolled and be allowed in.
But... the vast majority of Gazans in the worlds biggest human corral have no where to flee to.
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Among the dead are 583 children and 351 women, the ministry said in its latest update on Friday.
An additional 6,388 have been wounded since Saturday, it said.
www.theguardian.com
Gaza death toll rises to 1,799, including 583 children
At least 1,799 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza from Israeli strikes, according to Gazan health ministry.Among the dead are 583 children and 351 women, the ministry said in its latest update on Friday.
An additional 6,388 have been wounded since Saturday, it said.
UN says tens of thousands have fled south in Gaza after Israel’s evacuation order – as it happened
More than 400,000 in Gaza were already internally displaced before Israel’s evacuation order, UN humanitarian office says
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Lili Bayer
Janez Lenarčič, the European commissioner for crisis management, has spoken out about the need to respect international humanitarian law.
Israel “has the right to defend itself,” he said, but “this right must be exercised in compliance with” international humanitarian law.
“Civilians must be protected,” he said, adding that “critical infrastructure must not be targeted” and “safe and unrestricted access for humanitarian aid must be ensured.”
His comments come as Commission president Ursula von der Leyen visits Israel, where she said “I know that how Israel responds will show that it is a democracy.”
www.theguardian.com
Lili Bayer
Janez Lenarčič, the European commissioner for crisis management, has spoken out about the need to respect international humanitarian law.
Israel “has the right to defend itself,” he said, but “this right must be exercised in compliance with” international humanitarian law.
“Civilians must be protected,” he said, adding that “critical infrastructure must not be targeted” and “safe and unrestricted access for humanitarian aid must be ensured.”
His comments come as Commission president Ursula von der Leyen visits Israel, where she said “I know that how Israel responds will show that it is a democracy.”
UN says tens of thousands have fled south in Gaza after Israel’s evacuation order – as it happened
More than 400,000 in Gaza were already internally displaced before Israel’s evacuation order, UN humanitarian office says
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This is such a contradictory statement.
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I thought I read that the reason Israel was caught off guard is because Hamas used old fashioned (for lack of a better word) ways to launch this attack - meaning they did not use technology and flew under the radar. Did anyone else read that?
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Initial report: On the body of one of the errorists was found a paycheck Hamas.
This is a mid-ranking officer, married to one woman and with three children. Born in May 1980 (age 43).
He earns about NIS 5,000 per month, a very high salary in Gaza terms. #HamasIsIsis
(5,000 NIS is $1257)
This is a mid-ranking officer, married to one woman and with three children. Born in May 1980 (age 43).
He earns about NIS 5,000 per month, a very high salary in Gaza terms. #HamasIsIsis
(5,000 NIS is $1257)
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Biden holds call with families of 14 Americans unaccounted for after Hamas onslaught
Biden holds call with families of 14 Americans unaccounted for after Hamas onslaught
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www.timesofisrael.com
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RCMP aware of online threats to Canada's Jewish community, calls for 'increased vigilance'
I wonder if even the terrorists were using the internet and maybe they could track some of them or use that to their advantage when they communicated and could intercept any of it?
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The Hamas terror group publishes propaganda footage showing its members holding young Israeli children and babies in a kibbutz in southern Israel last weekend, in an apparent attempt to downplay its murderous attack.
The video shows terrorists taking a number of small children and infants out of homes in Kibbutz Holit.
One clip shows the terrorists giving a child a glass of water to drink, and another clip shows terrorists rocking a baby in a stroller.
Parents of the children are nowhere to be seen.
There is evidence showing that Palestinian terrorists murdered several young children during its attack last weekend.
The video shows terrorists taking a number of small children and infants out of homes in Kibbutz Holit.
One clip shows the terrorists giving a child a glass of water to drink, and another clip shows terrorists rocking a baby in a stroller.
Parents of the children are nowhere to be seen.
There is evidence showing that Palestinian terrorists murdered several young children during its attack last weekend.
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BBm: I was also wondering about cruise ships maybe being a way to move more people out of the way. On Saturday, there were two cruise ships at the port when the attack came. They waited for their passengers to return before leaving. One ship had to leave without all of their passengers. I would hate to be on such a big target but it could be a way to move some of the Palestinians to leave. Maybe Egypt would let them dock? IDK but just a thought.
An employee at the Israeli Embassy in China has been stabbed. A foreign suspect is detained
A 50-year-old Israeli man who works at the Israeli Embassy in Beijing has been stabbed in front of a supermarket.
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CNN's @JakeTapper
: "Egypt, Jordan, I mean, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, all these countries that prepare--that talk about how much they care about the Palestinians, they could help right now. They could help the Palestinians escape. They could say okay, stop bombing and we will go in there and we will help Gaza, like, become a thriving society. They could do all sorts of things. They have money, by the way. Where are they?"
: "Egypt, Jordan, I mean, Qatar, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, all these countries that prepare--that talk about how much they care about the Palestinians, they could help right now. They could help the Palestinians escape. They could say okay, stop bombing and we will go in there and we will help Gaza, like, become a thriving society. They could do all sorts of things. They have money, by the way. Where are they?"
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"Israel will most likely use its special forces.
And these enjoy an excellent reputation.
Among several special units of Israel, the most famous is Sayeret Matkal, which is the equivalent of, for example, the American Delta or the British SAS (Special Air Service).
Their numbers and structure, like most special forces, are secret, but their strength is estimated at approximately 300 soldiers.
It is worth adding that one of the prime ministers of Israel, Ehud Barak, was a soldier of the unit.
This is a unit created for, for example, rescuing hostages. In last weekend's attack, the Palestinians captured several hundred of them.
This time - according to our expert - they will not be used to recapture them.
'Especially since the hostages are probably transferred, divided into several or a dozen subgroups and are not kept together.
If the Palestinians flaunt where the hostages are, it could be an ambush for special forces', he adds.
Israeli soldiers could easily turn from hunters to prey. He also explains that special forces usually choose the time and place of the attack.
The element of surprise is used, and in this particular case it is unlikely.
In addition to Sayeret Matkal, there are other special units in the IDF.
Flotilla 13 and the Yaltam Unit, subordinated to the naval command, are intended for maritime operations.
The land forces have their own Oz Brigade.
Interestingly, the engineering forces corps also has a special unit.
This is the Yahalom Unit, and its soldiers are prepared, for example, to fight in tunnels drilled by the Palestinians.
In addition, there are also units subordinated to the Air Force and one unit at the disposal of the IDF General Staff.
Next in order are the air forces, which are extremely important for the overall operation of the IDF, because they are often used operationally, as we see now when they bombed the Gaza Strip.
'Now they will start dealing with Hamas.
And a radical one at that.
So that no trace of them will remain.
Israel is preparing to enter the Gaza Strip, so armored and mechanized troops will move.
It will be a dirty, bloody operation, meaning fighting in cities and tedious "cleaning" them of militants.
Quarter by quarter,
building by building,
basement by basement.
And fighting in the tunnels where Hamas fighters are also hiding'."
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And these enjoy an excellent reputation.
Among several special units of Israel, the most famous is Sayeret Matkal, which is the equivalent of, for example, the American Delta or the British SAS (Special Air Service).
Their numbers and structure, like most special forces, are secret, but their strength is estimated at approximately 300 soldiers.
It is worth adding that one of the prime ministers of Israel, Ehud Barak, was a soldier of the unit.
This is a unit created for, for example, rescuing hostages. In last weekend's attack, the Palestinians captured several hundred of them.
This time - according to our expert - they will not be used to recapture them.
'Especially since the hostages are probably transferred, divided into several or a dozen subgroups and are not kept together.
If the Palestinians flaunt where the hostages are, it could be an ambush for special forces', he adds.
Israeli soldiers could easily turn from hunters to prey. He also explains that special forces usually choose the time and place of the attack.
The element of surprise is used, and in this particular case it is unlikely.
In addition to Sayeret Matkal, there are other special units in the IDF.
Flotilla 13 and the Yaltam Unit, subordinated to the naval command, are intended for maritime operations.
The land forces have their own Oz Brigade.
Interestingly, the engineering forces corps also has a special unit.
This is the Yahalom Unit, and its soldiers are prepared, for example, to fight in tunnels drilled by the Palestinians.
In addition, there are also units subordinated to the Air Force and one unit at the disposal of the IDF General Staff.
Next in order are the air forces, which are extremely important for the overall operation of the IDF, because they are often used operationally, as we see now when they bombed the Gaza Strip.
'Now they will start dealing with Hamas.
And a radical one at that.
So that no trace of them will remain.
Israel is preparing to enter the Gaza Strip, so armored and mechanized troops will move.
It will be a dirty, bloody operation, meaning fighting in cities and tedious "cleaning" them of militants.
Quarter by quarter,
building by building,
basement by basement.
And fighting in the tunnels where Hamas fighters are also hiding'."
Izrael szykuje się do ataku. "Brudna, krwawa operacja"
Coraz więcej wskazuje na to, że Izrael zdecyduje się na operację przeciwko Hamasowi w Strefie Gazy. Bombardowania trwają już od kilku dni, teraz trwają przygotowania do prawdopodobnego uderzenia lądowego. Dla...
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