Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #4

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PommyMommy said:
***WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT***

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RAW FOOTAGE: Hamas jihadists squad invasion and killing spree of an innocent Israeli community.

The filmed terrorist was neutralized by Israeli security forces.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1713685914575044809
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WOW.

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And Glad he was neutralized.

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Is there a way to get an audio translation of this?

Like watching a movie, but it’s NOT a movie. :(
 
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dotr said:
Oct 15, 2023 #israel #gaza
WARNING: This report contains body bags and the accounts of what volunteers found, that may cause distress.
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Wow… :(. This man from Zakar has been doing this, recovering bodies for 33 years all over the world, “he has never seen anything like this,”…”brutality of Hamas stunned his entire team”…in Be'eri, out of about 280 bodies, 80 percent was tortured…..two piles of ten children each, tied and burned to death…”This is something beyond”…”This is next level”….”this is indescribable and I won’t describe everything that I saw”…

Just no words.


This is modern day Holocaust. I just can’t believe all this.

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Eta: Hamas booby trapped the bodies.

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Eta2: The murders varied from location to location, if they had “time,” they tortured them.
 
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Gaza hospitals have 24 hours of fuel left - UN​

The UN has warned that fuel reserves at Gaza hospitals are expected to last about 24 more hours.

"The shutdown of backup generators would place the lives of thousands of patients at risk," the UN humanitarian office said on its website.

It comes after a number of aid agencies have called for access to Gaza in order to provide humanitarian assistance including fuel and water.

Earlier today, Ghassan Abu Sitta, a British-Palestinian surgeon working from Doctors Without Borders in Gaza, warned that staff at his hospital do not have enough equipment to help people.

"In terms of medical supplies, we consume a month or a month-and-a-half of medical supplies every day in this emergency," he told the BBC.

 
Perhaps a final decision hasn't been made...

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Foreign national Palestinians can cross from Gaza into Egypt on Monday, officials say (nbcnews.com)
3m ago / 4:05 PM PDT

Biden considering visit to Israel after Netanyahu invite​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has invited President Joe Biden to travel to Israel on a solidarity visit amid the war, a senior U.S. official has confirmed.

The White House is considering the request, the official said.

Several Israeli media outlets, including the Times of Israel, reported earlier in the day that the invitation had been made.
 
Israel-Hamas war live: US sends second aircraft carrier ‘to deter hostile actions against Israel’; ground assault on Gaza looms (theguardian.com)
6m ago00.04 BST

Summary​

It is slightly past 2am in Gaza where a humanitarian crisis is intensifying amid water and food shortages. The UN has warned that Gaza’s aid access should not be “bargaining chips.” Here is where things stand:
  • US and Israelis officials are discussing the possibility of a visit to Israel soon by US president Joe Biden at the invitation of Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, a source familiar with the matter told Reuters on Sunday. A potential visit by Biden would follow similar visits from other high-ranking US officials including secretary of state Antony Blinken and defense secretary Lloyd Austin.
  • UN secretary-general Antonio Guterres also called on Hamas to release hostages without conditions and called on Israel to allow for rapid and unimpeded humanitarian aid access to Gaza. “Each one of these two objectives are valid in themselves. They should not become bargaining chips and they must be implemented because it’s the right thing to do,” Guterres said.
  • The Venezuelan president, Nicolas Maduro, has said that he spoke by phone to the Palestinian Authority president, Mahmoud Abbas, on Sunday regarding the situation in Gaza. Maduro told Abbas that Venezuela would send 30 tons of humanitarian aid to Gaza in the next few days, Reuters reports.
  • Amnesty International has verified six videos of an attack on Salah al-Din road – a supposedly “safe” route for Palestinians feeling Gaza – that killed at least 70 people. It went on to condemn Israel’s forced evacuations of Palestinians from Gaza, saying: “Israel’s order to ‘evacuate’ is NOT compliant w/ [international humanitarian law] & must be rescinded.”
  • France has warned Iran “against any escalation or extension of the conflict” between Israel and Hamas, the French presidential office announced on Sunday. During a phone call between the French president, Emmanuel Macron, and his Iranian counterpart, Ebrahim Raisi, Macron warned against any conflict spillover into Lebanon.
  • Leaders from the EU’s 27 member states have issued a statement outlining their position on the situation in the Middle East. “The European Union condemns in the strongest possible terms Hamas and its brutal and indiscriminate terrorist attacks across Israel and deeply deplores the loss of lives,” the European Council said.
  • In a call with the Vatican, Israel’s foreign ministry said it expected the “Vatican to be more attentive to the suffering to Israelis.” The country’s foreign minister also called for a clear Vatican condemnation of deadly terrorism against Israelis and reiterated Israel’s right to defend itself.
  • Iran’s foreign minister, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian, said the United States would suffer “significant damages” if the war in Gaza spills over into a larger conflict, Al Jazeera reported on Sunday. “We have conveyed our message to the Zionist regime through its allies that if they do not cease their atrocities in Gaza, Iran cannot simply remain an observer,” Iranian state media cited Amir-Abdollahian as telling the network.
  • More than 600,000 Gazans have relocated southward as evacuations from Gaza continue, an Israeli military spokesperson said on Sunday. Reuters reports the spokesperson also saying that Israel is prepared to fight on two fronts and even more if required.
  • UNRWA, the UN’s agency supporting Palestinian refugees, said on Sunday that Israel’s deadly strikes on Gaza have led to an “unprecedented human catastrophe” as Gaza’s death toll rises to 2,670 with 9,600 injured. Speaking to reporters, Philippe Lazzarini, commissioner general of UNRWA, said: “If we look at the issue of water, we all know water is life and Gaza is running out of water and Gaza is running out of life.”
  • Over 1,000 people are currently missing under the rubble of buildings in Gaza that have been targeted by deadly Israeli airstrikes, the Palestinian civil defence said on Sunday. In a statement, the civil defence team said many others were pulled alive out of the rubble, 24 hours after buildings were struck.
  • Following his multi-country tour of the region, US secretary of state Antony Blinken said that the Rafah crossing between Egypt and Gaza would be reopened. Blinken added that the US is putting in place mechanisms alongside the UN, Egypt and Israel to get assistance to those in need of it.
  • Gaza health officials have started to store bodies in ice cream freezer trucks because moving them to hospitals is too risky and cemeteries are running out of space. Videos posted online showed bodies wrapped in white cloth stacked inside the empty trucks.
  • The Gaza health ministry has announced that at least 2,450 Palestinians have been killed in Israeli attacks on Gaza since 7 October. The ministry also adds that 9,200 have been wounded.
 

Amnesty International: Israel’s evacuation orders ‘not compliant with international humanitarian law’​

Amnesty International has verified six videos of an attack on Salah al-Din road – a supposedly “safe” route for Palestinians feeling Gaza – that killed at least 70 people.

In a series of tweets on Sunday, Amnesty International said that its research team “found that a convoy, including a truck carrying around 30 people, 8 cars & other nearby people, incl. women, children & people with disabilities, was attacked”.

“Ambulances that arrived at the scene were hit in a second attack & rescuers injured. At least 70 died,” it added.

It went on to condemn Israel’s forced evacuations of Palestinians from Gaza, saying: “This is yet another brutal illustration that civilians in Gaza have nowhere safe to go.”

“Israel’s order to ‘evacuate’ is NOT compliant w/ [international humanitarian law] & must be rescinded. Civilians must be granted access to safety, medical care & aid,” it added.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1713631262668161081

www.theguardian.com

Israel-Hamas war live: Biden says Israel occupation of Gaza would be ‘big mistake’; 24 hours’ more fuel at Gaza hospitals, says UN

US president says he is ‘confident’ Israel will act under the rules of war; Thousands of patients at risk in Gaza, says UN humanitarian office
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
PommyMommy said:
Perhaps a final decision hasn't been made...

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Foreign national Palestinians can cross from Gaza into Egypt on Monday, officials say (nbcnews.com)
3m ago / 4:05 PM PDT

Biden considering visit to Israel after Netanyahu invite​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has invited President Joe Biden to travel to Israel on a solidarity visit amid the war, a senior U.S. official has confirmed.

The White House is considering the request, the official said.

Several Israeli media outlets, including the Times of Israel, reported earlier in the day that the invitation had been made.
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If truly invited, it would be graceless to not accept.

Can you imagine the headlines? “Anti-Semite Biden Snubs Israel”

I would admire a leader who honored, well…..anything. But especially the request of a nation under attack to make a state visit. I know I wouldn’t have the strength or courage.
 
20:44 15 Oct

Twenty-one hospitals told to evacuate and four not functioning, WHO says​


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The scene outside Al-Shifa hospital in Gaza city which is still functioning, but with very few supplies

Four hospitals in the north of the Gaza strip are no longer working, the World Health Organisation has said.

In a statement on social media, the WHO in occupied Palestinian territory adds that 21 hospitals in Gaza have been given an order to evacuate by the Israel military.

The global health body also notes that the "forced evacuation" of hospitals may amount to a violation of international humanitarian law.”

“Forced evacuation of hospitals in the Gaza Strip puts the lives of vulnerable patients at immediate risk, amounting to a death sentence for those needing intensive care and lifesaving surgeries."

 
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Risk that Israel-Hamas conflict could spread to wider region, top US official warns​

The conflict between Israel and Hamas could spread to the wider region, US national security advisor Jake Sullivan has warned as US warships head to the region and clashes are reported on Israel’s border with Lebanon. Speaking on US broadcaster CBS, Sullivan said:

There is a risk of an escalation of this conflict, the opening of a second front in the north, and of course of Iran’s involvement – that is a risk.
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Reuters cited another US officials briefed on the situation as saying, “Iran is the elephant in the room … The carriers are accompanied by warships and attack planes. Every effort is being made to stop this from becoming a regional conflict.”

Iran’s foreign minister, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian warned on Sunday that his country could take action. He told al Jazeera Tehran had conveyed a message to Israeli officials that “if they do not cease their atrocities in Gaza, Iran cannot simply remain an observer.”

www.theguardian.com

Israel-Hamas war live: Biden says Israel occupation of Gaza would be ‘big mistake’; 24 hours’ more fuel at Gaza hospitals, says UN

US president says he is ‘confident’ Israel will act under the rules of war; Thousands of patients at risk in Gaza, says UN humanitarian office
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 
justtrish said:
I think he could and would be protected so the danger doesn't concern me as much as WHY create this distraction right now. They do not need him to physically show up to know he supports them. It's clear the US is with them. Why create the NEED for additional assets to be diverted to protect him. That is not what Israel needs to focus on right now they are in the middle of a war.

Typically, we hear about a head of state being in a war zone AFTER they leave and are well out of the area.
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I've been very surprised as to how many US Senators and administration has been there as of now.
 
www.nytimes.com

Arab Citizens of Israel Were Not Spared in the Hamas-Led Massacres

About two million of Israel’s citizens are Arab. Many identify as Palestinian or share close family ties with those in the West Bank and Gaza.
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Mr. Darawsheh joined a grim list: He was one of more than 100 killed in what appears to have been one of the worst massacres of the sweeping surprise attack launched by Hamas on Saturday. And his death underscores how the terror did not spare Israel’s Arab citizens.

About two million of Israel’s citizens are Arab.

“These people came and killed left and right,” said Suleiman Zayadneh, their relative and a local official.

He said he was “proud of being Palestinian” and expressed fury that Hamas had committed such acts supposedly in the name of Palestinian nationalism and Islam.

“What national pride? What religion?” he said of the gunmen. “The people who came to shoot and kill — they know nothing of religion.”
Emphasis mine.

This just shows Israel’s willingness to live with their Arabic countrymen peacefully.
If only others like Hamas could think the same, no one-- esp. innocent unaware men,women, children and the elderly -- would be slaughtered.
Omo.
 
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Israeli occupation of Gaza would be a 'big mistake', Biden warns​

An Israeli occupation of Gaza would be a big mistake, Biden said in his 60 Minutes interview. Asked whether he would support such a move, he said:

I think it’d be a big mistake. Look, what happened in Gaza, in my view, is Hamas and the extreme elements of Hamas don’t represent all the Palestinian people. And I think that ... It would be a mistake to ... for Israel to occupy ... Gaza again. We ... but going in but taking out the extremists the Hezbollah is up north but Hamas down south. Is a necessary requirement.
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He said that he believed that Hamas must be eliminated entirely but added, “there needs to be a Palestinian authority. There needs to be a path to a Palestinian state.”

That path, called “the two state solution,” has been US policy for decades. It would create an independent nation next to Israel for 5 million Palestinians who live in Gaza and on the West Bank of the Jordan River.
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Asked whether he believed that Israel would pursue a two-state solution after Hamas’ attack Biden said:

Not now. Not now. Not now, but – but I think Israel understands that a significant portion of Palestinian people do not share the views of Hamas and Hezbollah.
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3m ago

Biden 'confident' Israel will adhere to rules of war, warns Iran not to escalate conflict​

US President Joe Biden has said he is “confident” Israel will act under the rules of war in its conflict with Hamas, and added that deploying US troops would not be necessary, in an interview with 60 Minutes.

In comments reported by Reuters, Biden warned Iran not to escalate the conflict and said the US could “take care” of wars in both Ukraine and Israel while also maintaining its own defence.

He also said that while he believes Hamas must be eliminated entirely, there must be a path for a Palestinian state. And he cautioned that the threat of terrorism in the United States had increased due to unrest in the Middle East.

www.theguardian.com

Israel-Hamas war live: Biden says Israel occupation of Gaza would be ‘big mistake’; 24 hours’ more fuel at Gaza hospitals, says UN

US president says he is ‘confident’ Israel will act under the rules of war; Thousands of patients at risk in Gaza, says UN humanitarian office
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
 

ICRC calls for water supply to Gaza to resume​

The ICRC is calling for the resumption of water supplies to the entire Gaza Strip.

Speaking to BBC News, the ICRC's permanent observer to the UN, Laetitia Courtois says "it’s an obligation of the warring parties to make sure that the civilians don’t suffer.

We call for every party to make sure goods to help their survival is resumed as soon as possible".

Courtois added that the organisation is talking to all sides involved in the current escalation.

The ICRC currently has a team of more than 100 in Gaza.

“They are still trying to help and fix the water system that has been damaged, trying to support the medical facilities and the paramedics who are working tirelessly. We’re trying as well to set up a response for the thousands of people displaced,” she says.

She adds that if Israeli troops go into Gaza, there is a legitimate fear that street to street battles will lead to civilian casualties.

 
mickey2942 said:

This is concerning. Anyone else?
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Our military is the best in the world (I might be biased :) ) Often these assets are on deployments all over the world and we never know about it unless it makes the news. They are always out there doing various tasks and keeping America safe. The fact we know 2 carrier strike groups are in the area or on the way doesn't mean anything is going to happen, but what it does mean is IF it does, we have the ability to defend Israel immediately. Just the show of force often keeps things from escalating.

Things to keep in mind also.. these assets also have the ability to help with the humanitarian situation. I believe one of the ships is a floating hospital. They can bring helicopters, fighter jets.. and so many more things. surveillance and intel capabilities.

If US forces are on the ground in Israel (I think there likely are some) then I'd want the Navy, Air Force, and Marines just off the coast 100% ready for any and all scenarios.

The largest base anywhere close to Israel likely is Qatar. There are some air bases and Navy assets also, but much smaller. Italy and then Germany would be next closest I'd guess. I think having so much manpower, and technology and fire power right off the coast is the best place for them to act quickly should a need arise. Again, often just the presence is a deterrent.
 
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