Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #8

[Elley Mae]

Kremlin: 'outside influence' to blame for Dagestan mob, Putin to hold meeting on 'west's attempts to split Russian society'​

The Kremlin appears to be positioning itself to say that the mob that stormed a Dagestan airport in search of Jewish passengers from Israel on Sunday did so due to “outside influence”.

Reuters reports that in his daily call with reporters, the Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov said “ill-wishers” had used widely seen images of suffering in Gaza to stir up people in the predominantly Muslim region in the north Caucasus.

Local health authorities said 20 people had been injured in the incident in Makhachkala, including two who were critical. The RIA news agency said nine police officers had received injuries. Sixty people were later detained, according to media reports.

Tass reports that following the events in Makhachkala, the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, will hold a meeting to “discuss western attempts to split Russian society”.

It quotes Peskov as saying: “Putin plans to hold a large representative meeting today at approximately 7pm Moscow time and discuss the west’s attempts to use events in the Middle East to split Russian society. A detailed conversation will take place.”

Peskov said the head of the intelligence services and the defence minister would attend.

Hamas reports clashes with IDF – as it happened

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Not sure what is meant by outside influence.

* The majority of Dagestanis are Sunni Muslims.

Facts about Russia's republic of Dagestan

Twenty people were injured when hundreds of anti-Israeli protesters stormed on Sunday an airport in Russia's Dagestan region before security forces closed the airport and removed the demonstrators.

www.reuters.com

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Not sure what is meant by outside influence.

* The majority of Dagestanis are Sunni Muslims.

Facts about Russia's republic of Dagestan

Twenty people were injured when hundreds of anti-Israeli protesters stormed on Sunday an airport in Russia's Dagestan region before security forces closed the airport and removed the demonstrators.

www.reuters.com

Well... it's Putin. It's not meant to make sense.

 

[Knitty]

MOD NOTE: Folks, stay on topic. Move on from the incident in Dagestan.

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[Friday Fan]

There was also a lack of human intelligence , i.e. intelligence in the form of people, contacts, spies, and agents who would report what was happening in Hamas.

Płk Łukasiewicz: Izrael musi ukarać winnych, zemścić się i zniszczyć Hamas

- Jeśli zabijasz jednego bojownika Hamasu, dżihadystę, to na jego miejsce przychodzi trzech nowych: kuzyni, bracia, a nawet siostry czy żony. Izraelowi bardzo ciężko będzie wyeliminować Hamas ze Strefy

wiadomosci.wp.pl

I always wondered about this. Where were the spies?
Thank You!

I don't think Gaza is sustainable due to the population size.

I saw a documentary called "Gaza". (from 2018)
It's free on Tubi.
It wasn't a narrated documentary. It just featured everyday life and people in Gaza. It features one westernized teen who says, "How many teens in the world live like this? I can never leave". I got a "grounded for life" impression. I got a big sense of boredom. The teen's mom or aunt talked about the times when they could come and go to Israel and life was normal. They also said hardly anyone wore hijabs.

Israel says it doesn't want to reoccupy Gaza, yet these women seemed much happier under that situation.

Other countries don't want the Palestinians. I was looking at a Google Maps. There are unsettled places in the Negev desert where it's possible. I doubt if Israel would want it and it would require air conditioning.

I saw this article. I didn't post it because many on here see Al Jazeera as biased or propaganda, but it was an eye-opener. It's about the tunnels. It's easy to dig tunnels in Gaza.

Note: I've noticed that Al Jazeera seems to have an anti-Israel bias. (I didn't notice it before Oct 7th, but I didn't access Al Jazeera during previous Israeli conflicts. ) But they are on the ground and they seem to have good sources.

Analysis: Israel’s ground attacks yield lots of bang, little success

The past four days of land incursions, bombs and an information blackout won’t necessarily harm a well-prepared Hamas.

www.aljazeera.com

I don't have any solutions and don't know if there are any....
I do wonder how Gaza was when it was occupied.

 

[PommyMommy]

4hr ago

IDF spokesman: Dozens of Gaza terrorists killed overnight in ‘expanded’ ground op​

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“Overnight, troops eliminated dozens of terrorists who barricaded themselves in the buildings and tried to attack the forces that were moving in their direction,” he says, adding that the fighting is ongoing.

“We are carrying out an expanded ground operation into the Strip… forces are moving toward the terrorists, the terrorists are barricading themselves in staging grounds, and we are attacking them from the air,” Hagari adds.

4hr ago

Police officer seriously injured in stabbing on Jerusalem light rail​

Medics are responding to a stabbing attack near the Shivtei Yisrael light rail station in Jerusalem.

Magen David Adom says its medics are treating one person who is seriously injured.

The alleged assailant has been shot dead, according to first responders and police.

Police confirm that the victim is an officer.

4hr ago

Rocket alerts sound in Ashdod, Ashkelon and Gaza border towns​

Rocket sirens blare in the southern coastal cities of Ashdod and Ashkelon and in smaller towns in areas surrounding the Gaza Strip.

There are no reports of injuries, but one rocket scores a direct hit on a building in the Ashkelon industrial zone, sparking a fire, and at least one fragment falls on a building in Ashdod.

 

[OldCop]

Posts Online Threaten Jewish Students and Center for Jewish Living - The Cornell Daily Sun

Threats against Jewish students and the Center for Jewish Living were posted to Cornell’s Greekrank forums on Sunday, Oct. 29. CUPD is actively investigating and the FBI has been notified of a potential hate crime.

cornellsun.com

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718772732114960746

Note: Attached Image contains Graphic Violent Language

What kind of world do we live in right now? There is so much hate. There is so much anger. The leaders of countries want to take over the world like a bunch of teenage boys playing King of the Hill.
It is sad. It is dangerous. And no good will come from it.

 

[PommyMommy]

2hr ago

Israeli military stopped listening to Hamas handheld radios a year ago – NYT​

The military’s 8200 signal intelligence unit stopped listening in to the handheld radios of Hamas operatives in Gaza a year ago because it was seen as a “waste of effort,” according to The New York Times.

In an extensive report on the intelligence failures that enabled the October 7 massacre, the paper also says that US spy agencies had largely stopped collecting information on Hamas in recent years, believing that Israel had contained the threat from the terror group.

1hr ago

Palestinian PM says won’t take over Gaza without solution that includes West Bank​

If Israel removes Hamas’s leadership in the Gaza Strip, as it has vowed to do, the Palestinian Authority will not go back to governing the territory unless there’s a “comprehensive” solution involving the West Bank as well, the PA’s prime minister Mohammad Shtayyeh, says.

“To have the Palestinian Authority go to Gaza and run the affairs of Gaza without a political solution for the West Bank, as if this Palestinian Authority is going aboard an F-16 or an Israeli tank?” Shtayyeh tells the Guardian newspaper in an interview in his office in Ramallah.

“I don’t accept it. Our president [Mahmoud Abbas] does not accept it. None of us will accept it.”

“I think what we need is a comprehensive, peaceful vision,” he adds. “The West Bank needs a solution, and then link Gaza to it within the framework of a two-state solution.”

 

[PommyMommy]

1hr ago

Military says ground op progressing, several cells targeted in Gaza​

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Troops have encountered a number of Hamas cells attempting to attack them in the Gaza Strip, the IDF says.

According to the IDF, ground forces directed air force combat helicopters and drones to strike the terror cells and kill their members.

Forces also demolished anti-tank guided missile and rocket launch positions, as well as other infrastructure belonging to Hamas, the IDF says.

The military says that the ground troops and air force have also killed several Hamas commanders today.

They include the head of the terror group’s naval forces in central Gaza, Muhammed Safadi; the head of Hamas’s anti-tank guided missile array in Tuffah, Moumen Hijazi; and Muhammad Awdallah, a senior Hamas operative involved in weapon manufacturing, the IDF says.

57min ago

Rockets fired at Beersheba area; no injuries​

Rockets are fired by terrorists in the Gaza Strip at the city of Beersheba in the south.

Two rockets impact in open areas without causing injuries or damage.

43min ago

Rocket alerts sound in Jerusalem area, followed by thuds​

Rocket alerts sound in Jerusalem and surroundings areas, followed by thuds, apparently caused by the interception of at least some of the rockets by the Iron Dome system.

Magen David Adom confirms that there are no reports of impacts in the attack.

30min ago

Hezbollah targets army position in north, drawing IDF shelling in response​

The Israel Defense Forces says terror operatives in southern Lebanon opened fire at an army position on the northern border earlier.

The IDF says no soldiers were hurt in the attack.

In response, the IDF says troops shelled the source of the gunfire with artillery, and struck a Hezbollah site.

 

[PommyMommy]

15min ago

Lapid says he’ll back moves to free hostages, calls for Hamas leaders to be killed​

Opposition Leader Yair Lapid says he told the government that he would support any effort to return hostages from Gaza.

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Lapid also calls on Israel to assassinate Hamas’s top leadership, specifically calling out six of its most senior political and military leaders. He says that Israel must reach them, “whether in Gaza or in other countries.”

Hamas’s top political leadership generally bases itself out of Qatar.

“The State of Israel must not stop and must not let go until we kill six people: Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Deif, Ismail Haniyeh, Saleh al-Arouri, Khaled Mashaal and Marwan Issa,” Lapid says.

“All six have to die. Until they die, Israel will not avenge the murdered of Be’eri and Sderot, Kfar Aza and Ofakim. Until they die, the Middle East will not understand that we are not messing around.”

3:27 pm

Hamas releases propaganda video showing 3 hostages rebuking Netanyahu​

A screenshot from a propaganda video of three Israeli hostages released by Hamas.

Hamas releases a propaganda video in which three Israeli women held hostage by the terror group in the Gaza Strip berate Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, calling on him to secure their release and accusing him of failing to prevent the terror group’s October 7 onslaught.

The identities of the three women, whose statement was almost certainly dictated by their captors, is not immediately clear.

 

[PommyMommy]

The Israel Defense Force has launched a Second Axis-of-Advance today in the Northern Gaza Strip with Merkava Mark lV Main Battle Tanks having now Assaulted from the East of Gaza City to Salah Al-Dinn Highway effectively Cutting-Off the Northern Strip and Gaza City from the South.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718959072404254780

Israel Defense Forces while conducting Operations in the Northern Gaza Strip have Discovered the Skull of 23-Year-Old Shani Louk, with IDF Officials stating they now believe she was Beheaded with her Body being Paraded through the Streets of Gaza; Shani’s Family had recently received Hope she had Survived the Music Festival she was Kidnapped from in Southern Israel on October 7th due to Contact from claimed Members of Hamas, but this now appears to have been Lies.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718976121486582223

 

[PommyMommy]

IDF says that over the past day it carried out strikes against some 600 sites in the Gaza Strip.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718865168145293492

IDF says ground forces eliminated dozens of Hamas members gathered in buildings in the Gaza Strip. In one incident, the troops directed the Air Force to carry out a drone strike on a Hamas staging ground, killing 20 operatives.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718865398269935804

IDF says it carried out a drone strike against Palestinian gunmen during a raid in the Jenin refugee camp overnight. Troops also clashed with armed Palestinians in the area.

Four Palestinian gunmen, including a senior Islamic Jihad operative, were reportedly killed.

IDF says forces found and destroyed IEDs hidden under roads, a booby-trapped command room, and a car with ammunition. At least one suspect detained.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1718885355523334326

 

[PommyMommy]

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war, crisis in Gaza as Israel warns of long war (cnn.com)
29 min ago

75 aid trucks are waiting to cross from Egypt into Gaza, Egyptian official says​

Seventy-five aid trucks arrived on the Egyptian side of the Rafah border crossing with Gaza on Monday, according to a statement by the Secretary General of North Sinai Governorate, Osama Al-Ghandour.

Sixty are currently undergoing security checks, while the remaining 15 are waiting to be inspected, according to a CNN stringer on the ground in Rafah.

Al-Ghandour confirmed that a total of 193 trucks carrying more than 3,100 tons of food, medicines and medical supplies have arrived at the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing since October 8 from the Egyptian Red Crescent.

According to the Palestinian Red Crescent Society, only 118 trucks have been received so far inside the Gaza Strip “due to the complex inspection procedures imposed by Israel, which impedes the arrival of aid to Gaza.”

Israel has maintained its ban on the entry of fuel into the Gaza Strip, Al-Ghandour added.

He said that the medical sector in North Sinai is ready to receive wounded Palestinians from Gaza to be treated in Egyptian hospitals as soon as they are allowed to cross through.

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[Mo Thuairim]

AP reports that the Lebanese army says its troops have discovered 21 launchers on its side of the blue line near northern Israel, and dismantled them. It said one of them was equipped with a rocket ready to be fired.

The army’s statement came as the militant Hezbollah group said its gunmen had attacked two Israeli posts on Monday, including one on the edge of the town of Metula, destroying “technical equipment.”

The IDF earlier said it was again returning fire into Lebanon after coming under attack.

The blue line has demarked the boundary between Israel and Lebanon since it was drawn by the UN in 2000.

Israel-Hamas war live: Israeli forces reported to be advancing in two directions around Gaza city

Hebrew media, statements from Hamas and Palestinian eyewitness accounts says Israeli forces operating in northern Gaza and south of Gaza city

www.theguardian.com

Lebanon PM says he is working to avoid 'war' with Israel

Lebanon's caretaker prime minister said today he was working to ensure his country does not enter the Hamas-Israel war, even as Hezbollah and Israel have been exchanging cross-border fire.

"I am doing my duty to prevent Lebanon from entering the war" raging further south, Najib Mikati said in an interview.

Israel tanks enter fringes of Gaza city

Follow all the events in Gaza and Israel today as the war rages for the 24th day since the 7 October attacks by Hamas in southern Israel.

www.rte.ie

 

[Mo Thuairim]

Germany asks Israel to 'protect' Palestinians from settler attacks

Germany has called on Israel to "protect" Palestinians in the occupied West Bank, amid a surge in violence in the territory since the start of the war in Gaza

Germany condemned "attacks and violence from settlers against Palestinian communities in the area, which have led to the death of many civilians", German foreign ministry spokesman Sebastian Fischer said.

"We call on Israel to protect Palestinians from the activities of extremist settlers and to hold those responsible accountable," Mr Fischer said.

"Israel, as the occupying power in the West Bank, is responsible for ensuring the safety and integrity of the Palestinian population in the West Bank."

Israel tanks enter fringes of Gaza city

Follow all the events in Gaza and Israel today as the war rages for the 24th day since the 7 October attacks by Hamas in southern Israel.

www.rte.ie

 

[mickey2942]

This Russian mob attack, I feel it deep in my bones.

My DNA is stirring. Maybe screaming.

One of my grandfathers was born in America. The other three were born during the time of the Russian Empire, under Czar Nicholas II. Actually one grandmother was born in Mielic, Poland (@Dotta) when it had a large but poor Jewish population.
My maternal grandparents were born in Kyiv (now Ukraine) and the other in a town that is now part of Belarus.
All three came over by different boats in 1915, to escape persecution in Russia by Cossacks, and oppression of the Jews in Poland.

They met and married in NYC.

A great-grandfather I never met was hung from a tree in Russia, hung by his Tallis, which is a kind of prayer shawl worn by orthodox Jewish men.

This savagery, to hunt the Jews wherever they may be, this time by a Russian ethnic group of Muslims, makes me hyper aware of what my grandparents lived through, over a century ago.

The Jewish part of Mielic in Poland was destroyed by the Nazis, long after my grandmother had left.

I was born in Manhattan and still live in NYC, and never did I think that in my lifetime, I as a Jew would be unsafe in my city, or witness the wholesale murder of Jewish civilians in Israel, PLUS mobs in countries in the former Soviet Union, AGAIN attacking the Jewish people.

@Charlot123 I had one student from the Caucasus, a Jewish boy, and he had a very different upbringing from any former Soviet Union Jew I’d ever met…they have a hardscrabble lifestyle and a warrior spirit.

These are torturous times.

Imo

Religious persecution is something that is very visceral. My ancestors also were persecuted for their religious beliefs, to the point that my Great Grandparents moved to Mexico.

I can understand the need for a protected space for a Jewish Homeland. My ancestors crossed the United States, in wagons, seeking religious freedom.

Many of us are only one or two generations from the Holocaust. My husband's grandparents fled Ukraine after being literally starved by Lenin, simply because he was trying to crush the spirits of the Ukrainian people, not unlike Putin now.

Looking at this from a point of view of religious freedom and the literal "hunt" for people of Jewish descent at the airport in Russia the other day...

We are all Israelites. We need to stand up for a place where Jewish people have a safe space. We can't just look away.

 

[Gypsy Road]

The Israel Defense Force has launched a Second Axis-of-Advance today in the Northern Gaza Strip with Merkava Mark lV Main Battle Tanks having now Assaulted from the East of Gaza City to Salah Al-Dinn Highway effectively Cutting-Off the Northern Strip and Gaza City from the South.
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Israel Defense Forces while conducting Operations in the Northern Gaza Strip have Discovered the Skull of 23-Year-Old Shani Louk, with IDF Officials stating they now believe she was Beheaded with her Body being Paraded through the Streets of Gaza; Shani’s Family had recently received Hope she had Survived the Music Festival she was Kidnapped from in Southern Israel on October 7th due to Contact from claimed Members of Hamas, but this now appears to have been Lies.
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NOOOOOOO!!!

I am SO SAD about this!! I feared she was dead…but a part of me was holding out hope. I have googled updates on this woman several times a day since the October invasion. I’m not even exaggerating. Every single day. Oh my. God bless her sweet soul.

 

[justtrish]

Good morning everyone. I saw a quote this morning that I wanted to share.

If you are wondering why your Jewish friends are filling your social media with nonstop talk about Israel, it's because 90 years ago people said nothing.

This hurts my heart. I have of course learned about history in classrooms and read books, I've seen photos and I believe the holocaust was real. After Oct 7th, I understand it in a very different horrific way than I did before.

As we discuss the events today, I hope we all can remember that. I certainly don't want any harm to come to Palestinians in GAZA (or anywhere for that matter) and I don't want Muslims around the world to feel threatened either. I don't want Jews to fear they will be targets, to fear going to school, going shopping, or getting on a plane. I didn't blame Muslims for 9/11. I rallied around my Muslim friends and made sure they and anyone that knew me knew that I supported them and the problem was Terrorists NOT Muslims. I now wish for Palestinians to know that we are not against them, we are against HAMAS and terrorism. I wish for them to be free from what they've been living in for years and I wish for Israel to live in peace.

We can't be quiet. That is what terrorists prey on. Now more than ever our Jewish friends need us to speak up and we can do that without blaming Palestinians. We CAN support both, but we can't be quiet about what HAMAS ultimately wants and that is to eradicate Jews.

If all these countries truly wanted to help they would just help. Instead it seems to be a big chess game and everyone loses. The only reason a country would not denounce HAMAS is because they benefit from them somehow. I hope they wake up before it's their own country that is being attacked and everyone looks the other way or wants to tip toe around it.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Shani Louk ‘beheaded’ by Hamas after she was kidnapped at music festival and paraded by terrorists: Israel

The young German-Israeli tattoo artist whose body was paraded through the streets of Gaza after being kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead after “sadistic” terrorists “chopped o…

nypost.com

 

[PrairieWind]

Shani Louk ‘beheaded’ by Hamas after she was kidnapped at music festival and paraded by terrorists: Israel

The young German-Israeli tattoo artist whose body was paraded through the streets of Gaza after being kidnapped by Hamas has been found dead after “sadistic” terrorists “chopped o…

nypost.com

Sadly, from the video of her in the back of the truck, it seemed clear that she was deceased. It is horrific that they took her body back to Gaza. I wonder where and how the skull piece was found.

 

[Gypsy Road]

Sadly, from the video of her in the back of the truck, it seemed clear that she was deceased. It is horrific that they took her body back to Gaza. I wonder where and how the skull piece was found.

They took her back to Gaza, paraded her lifeless from the back of a truck through the streets where spectators cheered, videoed and spit on her body.