Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #9

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720192044486828108

 

[otto]

WHO says 'almost impossible' to bring humanitarian aid to people in Gaza​

The World Health Organization (WHO) has said it is doing everything it can to ensure that the people of Gaza have access to life-saving health and humanitarian services but that “in the current situation this is almost impossible”.

The WHO’s emergencies director, Michael Ryan, said the basic safety of staff on the ground in Gaza could not be guaranteed at the moment, Agence France-Presse reported. It was “unconscionable”, he said.

The UN agency had never found it as difficult to establish basic rules of engagement regarding minimum safety guarantees for humanitarians, he added.

Getting medical supplies to where they are needed “has not been facilitated, that has not been supported; in fact, if anything, quite the opposite”, he added.

(@margarita25 First quote I've seen from Dr Mike on this)

Israel-Hamas war live: Troops ‘completed the encirclement of Gaza City’, says IDF; WHO says ‘almost impossible’ to bring aid to Gaza

That is understandably a problem when the government's priority is protecting their militants, and using the civilians as shields.

I'm curious whether the UN is in the humanitarian zone set aside by the IDF, or whether they have remained in evacuation zones. If they are in evacuation zones, of course they cannot access humanitarian aide in the South.

 

[fred&edna]

https://x.com/JoeTruzman/status/1720194768104562842?s=20

The so-called ‘Islamic Resistance in Iraq,’ a grouping of militias and front groups of Iran, have claimed responsibility for attacking an American site next to Erbil airport. The statement cites the war in Gaza as the reason for the attacks.

 

[sds71]

US has intel that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad agreed to provide Hezbollah w/ a Russian-made missile defense system, sources tell @NatashaBertrand, me & @KatieBoLillis
Russian mercenary organization - Wagner Group - has been tasked w/delivery:

https://cnn.com/2023/11/02/politics/syrias-assad-hezbollah-wagner-missile-system/index.html

 

[otto]

Gaza is now cut in half, with Hamas strongholds in the North, humanitarian zones and aide in the South. I'm curious where the UN is claiming that humanitarian aid is inaccessible. I'm curious whether the UN is cooperating with the IDF and assisting with evacuation of civilian from Hamas strongholds, or whether they are sympathizing with Hamas in the North.
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[Friday Fan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720192044486828108

Do they have any power these days?

 

[fred&edna]

The Islamic Resistance in Iraq has just announced that next week they will be beginning a New Phase in their Operation to Fight for the People in Palestine and in Confronting the Enemies (Israel and the United States); they state that this Phase will be much more Severe and Widespread against the Bases of the Enemies in the Region.

Alongside this Statement, the Islamic Resistance in Iraq has Posted an Image of what they claim to be some kind of Cruise Missile.

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1720215041943671184?s=20

 

[Mo Thuairim]

That is understandably a problem when the government's priority is protecting their militants, and using the civilians as shields.

I'm curious whether the UN is in the humanitarian zone set aside by the IDF, or whether they have remained in evacuation zones. If they are in evacuation zones, of course they cannot access humanitarian aide in the South.

It seems to be about getting aid into Gaza in the first place and then onward to the hospitals that need it. And of course conditions on the ground aren't safe for aid workers north or south. Here is more context to his remarks.

WHO Slams Gaza Aid Delivery Problems​

The World Health Organization on Thursday slammed the lack of safety guarantees for bringing humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip, saying it was near impossible to get medical supplies to hospitals.

The WHO said the health needs in the Palestinian enclave were soaring while its ability to address them was plunging.

The UN health agency has been able to deliver 54 metric tonnes of humanitarian supplies into the territory over the past fortnight but said that would not even begin to address the scale of need.

"WHO will do everything we can to ensure that all people in Gaza have access to life-saving health and humanitarian services," WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus told a press conference.

"In the current situation this is almost impossible."

The WHO's emergencies director Michael Ryan said the basic safety of staff on the ground in Gaza could not be guaranteed at the moment -- something he branded "unconscionable".

He said the organisation had never found it as difficult to establish basic rules of engagement regarding minimum safety guarantees for humanitarians.

"It is the responsibility of all parties to the conflict to allow those hospitals to be resupplied," Ryan said.

"Occupying authorities have a special responsibility to ensure that such facilities are not only protected, but serviced and supplied with the adequate needs for the populations that they serve.

"Right now, we have no deconfliction effectively operating. There is no humanitarian access.

"It has been almost impossible to set up appropriate notification acknowledgement and deconfliction measures."

Getting medical supplies to where they are needed "has not been facilitated, that has not been supported; in fact, if anything, quite the opposite".

WHO Slams Gaza Aid Delivery Problems

The World Health Organization on Thursday slammed the lack of safety guarantees for bringing humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip, saying it was near impossible to get medical supplies to hospitals.

www.barrons.com

 

[otto]

What is going to happen when the IDF arrives at the hospital, where Hamas leaders, technology and munitions are under the hospital. There have been reports that Hamas militants patrol the floors of the hospital. That's the goal of the invasion, but hospital staff are not leaving, patients are not transported to safe zones. What does Hamas have planned for the staff and patients at the hospital?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720212113942077682

 

[justtrish]

Possible, but arent the folks coming out of Gaza through Rafah and into Egypt?

Yes I believe they are, but I wonder if they then can cross from Egypt to Israel fairly easily? I'd say for sure US citizens could do this since we are on good terms with Israel and helping to negotiate the exit of these people from Gaza to Egypt.

 

[justtrish]

I enjoy watching the flight tracker for some reason. I notice that there is UK Royal Air Force Typhoon FGR4 over the water off the coast of Israel. Also the US intel plane is looping over the water.

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RRR9959X is the fighter jet
RRR9961 is the UK Royal Air Force KC2 Voyager
HOMER42 is the US surveillance/intel plane

Edited to add that the fighter jet landed in Cyprus.

 

[otto]

"Occupying authorities have a special responsibility to ensure that such facilities are not only protected, but serviced and supplied with the adequate needs for the populations that they serve.

WHO Slams Gaza Aid Delivery Problems

The World Health Organization on Thursday slammed the lack of safety guarantees for bringing humanitarian aid into the Gaza Strip, saying it was near impossible to get medical supplies to hospitals.

www.barrons.com

<respectfully snipped>
The "occupying authorities have a special responsibility" to ensure that humanitarian aide reaches Hamas militant mass murderers in Northern Gaza, but Hamas Government does not? Hamas government controls the border with Egypt. Where is Hamas government taking the humanitarian aide and where is the "occupying authority" stopping the delivery of humanitarian aide to civilians?

There are no "occupying authorities" in Gaza. There is the Hamas Government, and the IDF invasion to eliminate murderers. The language of "occupying authorities" echoes Hamas militant messaging.

I don't believe that the IDF is interfering with the distribution of water, food and medicine. I don't believe that the UN is objective regarding public announcements. The UN announced 2 weeks ago that hospitals would run out of fuel within 24 hours. That was not true.

 

[otto]

Yes I believe they are, but I wonder if they then can cross from Egypt to Israel fairly easily? I'd say for sure US citizens could do this since we are on good terms with Israel and helping to negotiate the exit of these people from Gaza to Egypt.

All discussion that I've read is that dual passport people leaving Gaza should go to the nearest Egypt airport and go home - no detours.

 

[Brightchaser47]

What is going to happen when the IDF arrives at the hospital, where Hamas leaders, technology and munitions are under the hospital. There have been reports that Hamas militants patrol the floors of the hospital. That's the goal of the invasion, but hospital staff are not leaving, patients are not transported to safe zones. What does Hamas have planned for the staff and patients at the hospital?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1720212113942077682

I've been wondering that, also.

 

[fred&edna]

What has Hamas done with the hostages?!??

 

[Brightchaser47]

DP-DBM

 

[otto]

I've been wondering that, also.

At this time, with hospital staff, patients and civilians refusing to evacuate, and Hamas martyrs patrolling the buildings, it sounds like Hamas wants to turn it into a blood bath. Senior leaders will be long gone when that happens.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

<respectfully snipped>
The "occupying authorities have a special responsibility" to ensure that humanitarian aide reaches Hamas militant mass murderers in Northern Gaza, but Hamas Government does not? Hamas government controls the border with Egypt. Where is Hamas government taking the humanitarian aide and where is the "occupying authority" stopping the delivery of humanitarian aide to civilians?

There are no "occupying authorities" in Gaza. There is the Hamas Government, and the IDF invasion to eliminate murderers. The language of "occupying authorities" echoes Hamas militant messaging.

I don't believe that the IDF is interfering with the distribution of water, food and medicine. I don't believe that the UN is objective regarding public announcements. The UN announced 2 weeks ago that hospitals would run out of fuel within 24 hours. That was not true.

The Occupied Territories, which include the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and the Gaza Strip, are subject to the jurisdiction of Israel and the Palestinian Authority (PA), with the division of responsibilities overlapping in much of the territory.

Israel and The Occupied Territories - The Occupied Territories - United States Department of State

www.state.gov

 

[fred&edna]

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I enjoy watching the flight tracker for some reason. I notice that there is UK Royal Air Force Typhoon FGR4 over the water off the coast of Israel. Also the US intel plane is looping over the water.

Live Flight Tracker - Real-Time Flight Tracker Map | Flightradar24

The world’s most popular flight tracker. Track planes in real-time on our flight tracker map and get up-to-date flight status & airport information.

www.flightradar24.com

RRR9959X is the fighter jet
RRR9961 is the UK Royal Air Force KC2 Voyager
HOMER42 is the US surveillance/intel plane

Edited to add that the fighter jet landed in Cyprus.

I like spotting those fighter jets.

 

[Brightchaser47]

At this time, with hospital staff, patients and civilians refusing to evacuate, and Hamas martyrs patrolling the buildings, it sounds like Hamas wants to turn it into a blood bath. Senior leaders will be long gone when that happens.

Probably (to both points). And guess who they'll blame it on...