Italy - Sailing yacht sank off Italian coast, 15 rescued, 7 missing, 19 August 2024

[Ruthbullock]

I wonder how long it took people thrown into that raging sea to actually get to the life raft and get into it.

I think we have to remember that there were high winds, heavy rain, and likely large swells and crashing waves. Horrible scenario.
Some people can't even step into a dinghy from a still boat in a calm sea. (I fell doing that once )

From my understanding of reports, most people got into the life raft on board- but it may just be the crew staying silent about what happened. The wife was on it, the mother and baby got onto it after being submerged in the sea- we perhaps have to just wait and see what is said, it was inflated on deck that we have seen reported.

 

[Ruthbullock]

If you don’t know about the hiscox offices- have a look, they were well cared for staff in a gorgeous environment.

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[SouthAussie]

From my understanding of reports, most people got into the life raft on board- but it may just be the crew staying silent about what happened. The wife was on it, the mother and baby got onto it after being submerged in the sea- we perhaps have to just wait and see what is said, it was inflated on deck that we have seen reported.

The usual scenario would be to inflate the life raft, throw it in, then get into it. Simply because you can get injured if you are already in the life boat. You hold onto the line that attaches to the life boat, as you exit the yacht. And get to the life raft.
Maybe in this instance it was done differently. IDK

Even when I fell getting into a dinghy from a still boat, I injured myself and capsized the dinghy. Others in the dinghy fell in, and we lost stuff to the bottom of the sea (which we later dived for and retrieved, when the tide went out).

It is tricky manouvering yourself in water into boats.

imo

 

[BeginnerSleuther]

I think the point is that it should have been able to survive it, like the 'Baden Powell' next to it did. What the Italians are investigating is their equivalent of the British 'manslaughter through gross negligence', in other words, was the handling of the ship by the crew so negligent that they are culpable in the loss of the ship and the deaths of the passengers.

But if it was hit by a waterspout, that would explain why the Baden Powell survived and the Bayesian didn't. MOO

 

[Ruthbullock]

Really balanced and interesting article, especially about the ships name. We always talk about Occam’s razor, but in this case perhaps it’s Hanlons razor.

The ‘sick’ conspiracy theories surrounding the superyacht death of Mike Lynch

When tragedy struck the Bayesian in the early hours of Monday, it didn’t take long for amateur sleuths to draw their own conclusions

www.telegraph.co.uk

 

[branmuffin]

snipped.

I read a comment by a boat designer that the real reason for super-yachts having these tall masts isn't because of any functionality they provide. Rather, a lot of yacht ownership is about bragging rights and status so wealthy buyers like them because of how impressive they look.

Wow, that is concerning. It seems like some shipbuilders are willing to set aside the safety aspects for status.

 

[Cryptic]

The yacht was not moving or docking, it was effectively parked for the night.

The super yacht was at anchor though, and not docked. I think this may put it in some sort of "in between" state regarding sailing and parked.

I agree, however, the Captain was not going to be up all night. Crewed ships keep a series of "watches" such as bridge, engine room etc. depending on their status (parked, anchored, underway etc.).

It was once explained to me how the watch system worked- but as I was not familiar with the concept, it seemed very confusing.

I am guessing, however, that there would have been at least somebody on bridge watch? Or as the yacht was anchored, would the person on watch had been say, making rounds on various decks?

 

[Cedars]

But if it was hit by a waterspout, that would explain why the Baden Powell survived and the Bayesian didn't. MOO

I agree, tornados are a freak of nature, they aren't expected and couldn't have been predicted.

But still, it seems, someone must be blamed, it must be someone's fault.

JMO

 

[ch_13]

Wow, that is concerning. It seems like some shipbuilders are willing to set aside the safety aspects for status.

In fairness, I don't think a taller mast is inherently unsafe as the keel is supposed to be longer to compensate. One problem though is that the keel of the Bayesian was retractable so it could maneuver in shallow waters and it's possible that it wasn't fully extended during the storm, as it should have been.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

In fairness, I don't think a taller mast is inherently unsafe as the keel is supposed to be longer to compensate. One problem though is that the keel of the Bayesian was retractable so it could maneuver in shallow waters and it's possible that it wasn't fully extended during the storm, as it should have been.

Yes Maker of Bayesian yacht blames crew for ‘indescribable, unreasonable errors’ in doomed vessel’s sinking

 

[Rikissa]

I believe the passenger suites were below the crew accommodations. Which is unusual since generally when people think about millionaire's boats they think about the luxury suites with balconies, dance floors and bars with outdoor areas for lounging, etc. This is a true sailing vessel more like a racing yacht, imo, so I don't think the accommodations reflect how I usually visualize passenger cabins.

Here's a layout of the Bayesian, from https://www.superyachttimes.com/yac...acht-bayesian-sinks-off-palermo-seven-missing. It looks as if most is on thecsame level.

 

[LifeIsAMystery]

The captain has been wary and despite being thrown under the bus by the boat designers, he has held tight about doing it to his staff or anyone below him.

Surely he is quite lawyered up? MOOO.

 

[mickey2942]

I read a book recently, "Troubled" by Robert Henderson, he stated in the book, regarding, wealth and social status that the accumulation of items is no longer a status symbol. It is accumulation of experiences that are rare and noteworthy are the new "status" symbols.

This fits that definition. Sailing in the Mediterranean, in a private yacht. Sadly.

 

[LadyL]

Superyacht sinks latest: Investigators looking into possible manslaughter - Italian media; family of billionaire releases statement

Divers have recovered the body of the final missing person after a superyacht sank off the Sicily coast. The family of Mike Lynch and his daughter Hannah have released a statement - with tributes also pouring in for the pair.

news.sky.com

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she looks exactly like her Mom
RIP Hannah