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deedee21 said:
A hitman who was being blackmailed? Seriously, how do you think that would end?
"Hitman". That brought Gary Mellius to mind. Do you think there is anyone in that group that would want Gary dead?
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I thought that meant the hitman controls the pack of trusted individuals through blackmail (and close ties). Just my :twocents:
 
deedee21 said:
LISK is a predator. He plays by his own rules. He marches to the beat of his own drum.
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Those people do that on a group level. They are very much a cult that is isolated from society. The leader, Jerry, very much marches to the beat of his own drum.

They do quasi spiritual practices related to developing psychic powers. It's all very weird. He has rules like no TV or computers because it blocks these practices.

It's a mixture of legitimately scary and really goofy. One guy from my school had someone named 'Spider' come up to him multiple times and try to get him to start a fight with another member to test this other member. We still laugh at that. Especially a grown man being named 'Spider'.
 
Ummm so I just found something very weird regarding the place you guys are talking about. From what google tells me, someone from this school is posting ads looking for escorts around long island /nassau/ nyc area, and the wording is..alluring, almost like the writer wants the woman to feel as comfortable as possible (despite the nature of the encounter). There are a few of these some of them matching word for word. The earliest post was listed just yesterday!


http://longisland.backpage.com/MenS...-for-the-right-lady-why-not-for-real/61404915
 
Taken from their website:

The Hunt

Now that we have taught you to fight back and you have learned to defend yourself, escape, and defeat your opponents, Aiki JiuJitsu Kung Fu will put you to the ultimate test!
Sensei, and his network of trained professionals, Police, Trained Ninja, Trappers, and other Experts will Hunt you out of class in "Real Time" and "Real Life".
Only the most serious of students sign on for this type of training. Being Hunted by Sensei and his team of experts is something that will change your life forever! It is an intense experience that has been described as "Survivor" meets "The Game".
How far is to far? Do you really know what you were taught? What does happen if you are caught, attacked, captured, defeated, and taken?
Identities are hidden, rules dont exist, you are tested for real. Burried alive, tied up in the trees, lost in tunnels underground, set adrift at sea. Your team has been infiltrated by spies and double agents, you are left to survive for days on an island. Can you survive? Do you dare?
The wealthy pay thousands of dollars to go on such elaborate mock adventures such as ours, but you dont have to. Sensei Jerry's Aiki Jiujitsu Kung Fu classes will train you like you never imagined you could be trained. The Hunt is not for everyone. Do You Dare to Fight Back???

WTF?
 
I dont think LISK needed classes to go out and kill. He kills because he hates women. His wife probably dumped him because he is verbally and physically abusive. It all fell apart before his eyes. He felt like an outsider looking in. No longer part of the family. He blames a woman for that. Thats why he kills them. IMO of course. No classes need.
 
deedee21 said:
I dont think LISK needed classes to go out and kill. He kills because he hates women. His wife probably dumped him because he is verbally and physically abusive. It all fell apart before his eyes. He felt like an outsider looking in. No longer part of the family. He blames a woman for that. Thats why he kills them. IMO of course. No classes need.
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I agree dee...its not anything learned..its inside of his soul..very dark.

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WesternArtist said:
I thought that meant the hitman controls the pack of trusted individuals through blackmail (and close ties). Just my :twocents:
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This was why I posted the letter to Judge Wexler about Burke, although it was in response to JJJustice's confusion as to why info given to SCPD wasn't looked into, for some reason she didn't seem to understand this but it shows blackmail amongst SCPD officers, and I think blackmail may be part of the perps MO.

Since the link was posted in another thread I'll post it again for context, it's here:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/detentionmemo022616.pdf

Anyway, I've almost got what I need for John so won't be feeding the troll here... for now (hehe, jk). V


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maddalena1 said:
I agree dee...its not anything learned..its inside of his soul..very dark.

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The *advertiser censored* killed a baby. Hes souless. A dark soul would be a step up.
 
Micha07 said:
This was why I posted the letter to Judge Wexler about Burke, although it was in response to JJJustice's confusion as to why info given to SCPD wasn't looked into, for some reason she didn't seem to understand this but it shows blackmail amongst SCPD officers, and I think blackmail may be part of the perps MO.

Since the link was posted in another thread I'll post it again for context, it's here:
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/detentionmemo022616.pdf

Anyway, I've almost got what I need for John so won't be feeding the troll here... for now (hehe, jk). V


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Im not able to open this link. Or any link with pdf.
 
deedee21 said:
I dont think LISK needed classes to go out and kill. He kills because he hates women. His wife probably dumped him because he is verbally and physically abusive. It all fell apart before his eyes. He felt like an outsider looking in. No longer part of the family. He blames a woman for that. Thats why he kills them. IMO of course. No classes need.
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This is what I think as well
 
Micha07 said:
This was why I posted the letter to Judge Wexler about Burke, although it was in response to JJJustice's confusion as to why info given to SCPD wasn't looked into, for some reason she didn't seem to understand this but it shows blackmail amongst SCPD officers, and I think blackmail may be part of the perps MO.

Since the link was posted in another thread I'll post it again for context, it's here:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/detentionmemo022616.pdf

Anyway, I've almost got what I need for John so won't be feeding the troll here... for now (hehe, jk). V


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I agree, blackmail is a big part of LISK's gameplan but after reading up on his POI for myself I agree, he is VERY suspicious.
 
Sinix said:
LOL my martial arts school visited these wackadoos a few times back in the day just pretending they were interested in signing up. My two best friends went once but I was out of state in college at the time. This was back like 2008 or so. The stories you see online are 100% true. I wonder if they are still around.

edit: there was a hunt as late as 2016 at least.

http://www.aikijiujitsukungfu.com/jjj3hun.htm

If you have some time, read about these guys. It's an adventure. With what was going on in their classes I'm honestly flabbergasted they still exist.
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That same teacher has multiple ads online soliciting women on backpage, craigslist, and another site called hotads for strictly NON-PROFESSIONAL women to have "confidential" meetups starting immediately (He also says dont tell your friends or family). 100% verified its the teacher or someone with access to is personal accounts. There are ads up as early as 2 days ago. sick
 
sleuther347 said:
I agree, blackmail is a big part of LISK's gameplan but after reading up on his POI for myself I agree, he is VERY suspicious.
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Her POI. I don't feel that her posts are overly credible as I suspect she is an insider trying to deflect attention elsewhere. But I do agree that thing looks crazy. Anyone signing up to that and going through with signing a disclaimer may need a psych evaluation themselves but that is just my gut feels and opinion.


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sleuther347 said:
That same teacher has multiple ads online soliciting women on backpage, craigslist, and another site called hotads for strictly NON-PROFESSIONAL women to have "confidential" meetups starting immediately (He also says dont tell your friends or family). 100% verified its the teacher or someone with access to is personal accounts. There are ads up as early as 2 days ago. sick
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JJJ said the same thing. (?)


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The issue I have with this sensei is that I don't understand how he is connected with Shannon Gilbert, the GB4 or any of the other victims. He may or may not have a connection to others who may (or may not) be involved in the case.

Having said that I do think some SKs think they can mentor others. So I won't rule it out as I know that Tobin under the name Pat McLaughlin tried it with one young man around the time of Angelika's death (info from a person who witnessed one such attempt here in Glasgow) but I haven't yet found info to suggest this SK did so.


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