James Bisset / Shannan Gilbert connection

[sleuther347]

JJJ said the same thing. (?)


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Yes but it was deleted and by mods. the links are gone

 

[sleuther347]

Her POI. I don't feel that her posts are overly credible as I suspect she is an insider trying to deflect attention elsewhere. But I do agree that thing looks crazy. Anyone signing up to that and going through with signing a disclaimer may need a psych evaluation themselves but that is just my gut feels and opinion.


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JJJustice "She"?? You know this person and that they are indeed female? What would be the purpose of her deflecting information? and Agreed! Sickos!

 

[Sinix]

That same teacher has multiple ads online soliciting women on backpage, craigslist, and another site called hotads for strictly NON-PROFESSIONAL women to have "confidential" meetups starting immediately (He also says dont tell your friends or family). 100% verified its the teacher or someone with access to is personal accounts. There are ads up as early as 2 days ago. sick

Jerry always seemed like a controlled unhinged individual in control of that group that is filled with people that you have no idea what one of them might do. He puts these ideas of brutal knife attacks and mutilation in his people's heads, does spiritual meditation around these ideals and teeters on the edge by doing stuff like throwing knives at people. This is why I figured something would of shut that place down by now about 10 years later. I can't believe he's been doing this so long and has never had a comeuppance. Never had a mistake where a hand slipped and a knife hit someone. This is, of course, along with everything else that is bizarre with them like handing over your bank account details and allowing them to free access to your home to make sure you aren't watching TV or on the computer.

Why aren't these guys as good of a lead as anyone else?

 

[sleuther347]

jerry always seemed like a controlled unhinged individual in control of that group that is filled with people that you have no idea what one of them might do. He puts these ideas of brutal knife attacks and mutilation in his people's heads, does spiritual meditation around these ideals and teeters on the edge by doing stuff like throwing knives at people. This is why i figured something would of shut that place down by now about 10 years later. I can't believe he's been doing this so long and has never had a comeuppance. Never had a mistake where a hand slipped and a knife hit someone. This is, of course, along with everything else that is bizarre with them like handing over your bank account details and allowing them to free access to your home to make sure you aren't watching tv or on the computer.

Why aren't these guys as good of a lead as anyone else?

BOOM! I was reading on that forum his students bragging about him breaking into their houses. They knew it was him! Think about all the things he taught God-knows-who walked into that place. His website says hes been teaching for 40 years ;(

 

[WesternArtist]

Jerry always seemed like a controlled unhinged individual in control of that group that is filled with people that you have no idea what one of them might do. He puts these ideas of brutal knife attacks and mutilation in his people's heads, does spiritual meditation around these ideals and teeters on the edge by doing stuff like throwing knives at people. This is why I figured something would of shut that place down by now about 10 years later. I can't believe he's been doing this so long and has never had a comeuppance. Never had a mistake where a hand slipped and a knife hit someone. This is, of course, along with everything else that is bizarre with them like handing over your bank account details and allowing them to free access to your home to make sure you aren't watching TV or on the computer.

Why aren't these guys as good of a lead as anyone else?

They have had one lawsuit in 2003 but it was not about a knife at all... https://casetext.com/case/palo-v-principio
I agree, this is an interesting POI.

 

[SageRhiannon]

They have had one lawsuit in 2003 but it was not about a knife at all... https://casetext.com/case/palo-v-principio
I agree, this is an interesting POI.

So it's not necessarily the knives to watch out for, but the rugs.

 

[sleuther347]

so it's not necessarily the knives to watch out for, but the rugs.

..lol

 

[deedee21]

Jerry always seemed like a controlled unhinged individual in control of that group that is filled with people that you have no idea what one of them might do. He puts these ideas of brutal knife attacks and mutilation in his people's heads, does spiritual meditation around these ideals and teeters on the edge by doing stuff like throwing knives at people. This is why I figured something would of shut that place down by now about 10 years later. I can't believe he's been doing this so long and has never had a comeuppance. Never had a mistake where a hand slipped and a knife hit someone. This is, of course, along with everything else that is bizarre with them like handing over your bank account details and allowing them to free access to your home to make sure you aren't watching TV or on the computer.

Why aren't these guys as good of a lead as anyone else?

You cant sell the idea. Theres no basis for it.
Why is this place still open? Psycopaths know how to pull people in. Some people are attracted to that personality. Some people are mentally crippled. They dont have what it takes to walk away.

 

[deedee21]

So it's not necessarily the knives to watch out for, but the rugs.

No. His brain.

 

[Plottmasreram]

His suicide was the only thing mentioned.

Lanieri was in charge of Riverhead aquarium Concessions...and married to a suffolk county treasurer...
which is a connection to Suffolk corrections..where food concessions is were female inmates were fed by suffolk county Diddling Prostitution ring running correction officers like Ed Walsh......
Bissett and Lanieri links to Suffolk corrections are highly suspect...Suffolk corrections concessions provided the food and the Girls for suffolk county Court house elite...

 

[adeedra]

The *advertiser censored* killed a baby. Hes souless. A dark soul would be a step up.

Yep, because killing helpless mother and other girls is not enough to call someone soulless monster.

 

[sleuther347]

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Your Slim, Pretty Having Trouble Making Ends Meet, This is a Perfect FWB ARRANGEMENT, LOOK HERE ! - 57[/h]
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:05 AM

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Your Slim, Pretty, Having trouble making ends meet, this is a perfect arrangement for you, Really

If you seem to always be coming up short, Never enough at the end of the week, Your a hard worker,
but never enough left for yourself, Perhaps you try to take care of everyone else, never anything left.

Well the arrangement I'm proposing could easily change all that. Or at the very least help you to have
some x-tra for yourself.

I'm looking for just one lady to share with, Someone who is Sincere, Kind, and Not a Professional.
Just a down to earth Attractive, Slim girl who needs a bit of help.

This would be a steady arrangement, meeting once or twice a week for short dates, Our meetings would consist or You undressing and modeling yourself and some light massaging to relieve the weeks
stress. That's it. Very easy,
Probably one of the easiest ways to earn some x-tra, in 15 to 20 min of your time.

I did have a previous arrangement, which lasted for the past 3 years, It worked out perfect for us both,
She has since moved so that's why I'm looking again.

I'm looking to keep this discrete, just between you and I. No need for family friends, patients or anyone
to know of our little secret. Just you and I. This is very important to me.

I would be looking to start as soon as possible and I can easily afford these short times we will spend
together.

I am not looking for a perfect model type, or a Professional woman, Just a plain, real. attractive Woman,
Looking for change, some help and a way to improve her life.

If you are serious, please e mail me and tell me some about you, and send a full picture or two.
I will answer all .who do send the pictures and who seem sincere.
Please put " lucky" in the subject line so I know its not spam.

Thanks, hope to hear form you
Larry
sensijjj@*advertiser censored*. com.
Poster's age: 57

• Location: Eastern Nassau -- All Suffolk, Long Island

 

[sleuther347]

So I was doing some digging after all the fuss about this group and pulled up this, one of many ads soliciting "slim" down-on-their-luck women to meet. This is just one, I found multiple ads from the same guy sensijjj who is connected to that group in Suffolk County. There are a few things that stood out to me...

"This would be a steady arrangement, meeting once or twice a week for short dates, Our meetings would consist or You undressing and modeling yourself and some light massaging to relieve the weeks
stress. That's it. Very easy,
Probably one of the easiest ways to earn some x-tra, in 15 to 20 min of your time."


Im looking to keep this discrete, just between you and I. No need for family friends, patients or anyone
to know of our little secret. Just you and I. This is very important to me." -

"I would be looking to start as soon as possible and I can easily afford these short times we will spend
together."

"I am not looking for a perfect model type, or a Professional woman, Just a plain, real. attractive Woman,
Looking for change, some help and a way to improve her life."

He seems to be almost desperate in his attempt to lure women in. Imagine how many girls called him? There are posts from a year ago worded the same way with different pictures. Mods dont ban me for using google this info is all public. I think whoever wrote this is cunning and looking for a victim to deceive but idk...possible lead?

 

[maddalena1]

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Your Slim, Pretty Having Trouble Making Ends Meet, This is a Perfect FWB ARRANGEMENT, LOOK HERE ! - 57[/h]
Posted: Thursday, July 20, 2017 7:05 AM

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  Enlarge Picture

Your Slim, Pretty, Having trouble making ends meet, this is a perfect arrangement for you, Really

If you seem to always be coming up short, Never enough at the end of the week, Your a hard worker,
but never enough left for yourself, Perhaps you try to take care of everyone else, never anything left.

Well the arrangement I'm proposing could easily change all that. Or at the very least help you to have
some x-tra for yourself.

I'm looking for just one lady to share with, Someone who is Sincere, Kind, and Not a Professional.
Just a down to earth Attractive, Slim girl who needs a bit of help.

This would be a steady arrangement, meeting once or twice a week for short dates, Our meetings would consist or You undressing and modeling yourself and some light massaging to relieve the weeks
stress. That's it. Very easy,
Probably one of the easiest ways to earn some x-tra, in 15 to 20 min of your time.

I did have a previous arrangement, which lasted for the past 3 years, It worked out perfect for us both,
She has since moved so that's why I'm looking again.

I'm looking to keep this discrete, just between you and I. No need for family friends, patients or anyone
to know of our little secret. Just you and I. This is very important to me.

I would be looking to start as soon as possible and I can easily afford these short times we will spend
together.

I am not looking for a perfect model type, or a Professional woman, Just a plain, real. attractive Woman,
Looking for change, some help and a way to improve her life.

If you are serious, please e mail me and tell me some about you, and send a full picture or two.
I will answer all .who do send the pictures and who seem sincere.
Please put " lucky" in the subject line so I know its not spam.

Thanks, hope to hear form you
Larry
sensijjj@*advertiser censored*. com.
Poster's age: 57

• Location: Eastern Nassau -- All Suffolk, Long Island

This is hilarious....i am a naive girl I guess. Been married too long.

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[sleuther347]

What do you mean? lol

 

[maddalena1]

What do you mean? lol

I guess I mean whatever happened to real love and lust? You know the kind before online dating sites.The ad sounds like a help wanted almost mechanical vibe. Very peculiar and the zebra photo is funny but masks his identity. Yes, this could be how he lured some of the girls in. Nice sleuthing.

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[sleuther347]

Also on the contacts page of their website there is a link where you can email the teacher directly. It is a match to the emails on the Backpage ads, and the Backpage ads match the Craigslist ads. *Looks around nervously

 

[JJBONES]

Wouldn't you think with all the victims found in that area there would be some sort of sting operation going on the nab these guys? Defies logic. Why would law enforcement, FBI, SBI, whomever, not be investigating these ads if for no other reason than rule out they are the LISK?

 

[sleuther347]

Wouldn't you think with all the victims found in that area there would be some sort of sting operation going on the nab these guys? Defies logic. Why would law enforcement, FBI, SBI, whomever, not be investigating these ads if for no other reason than rule out they are the LISK?

Long Island has had a bad corruption problem, which could possibly spill over to unprofessionalism (bot really doing your job the way you should). But yeah crazy how they haven't found these

 

[sleuther347]

With regards to the ads posted here, I have a few thoughts.

First off, no woman who has experience of the industry would take them seriously.

Secondly, the author(s) is/are looking to lure in a girl new to the business.

Third, sex would be involved. It's almost *always* involved.

Just because an ad says something doesn't make it true. The old adage, don't believe everything you read is very apt here.

Men who pay for escorts are usually prolific liars, they lie to get away from work/wife/life in order to exploit a woman for their own pleasure. While in the after glow they say whatever their brains come up with that will massage their own ego while also impressing a woman who may be easily led.

The easier to lead and the more malleable they are, the more likely there will be a second encounter... if a first was ever on the cards.

I believe that these ads (if real... why aren't there links being provided to confirm their authenticity?) are posted by a chancer who either wants to record the 'session' to enjoy at their own leisure later on or post online for PTV; someone trying to find new girls to manipulate (known in the biz as 'newbie hunters'; or the guy got off on writing them. 99.9% of communications with escorts that go into the details of what's going to happen go no further because they've already had their satisfaction.


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Exactly! and given this guys history it makes for a VERY sketchy POI indeed. I posted the links to a row of craigslist postings that match the backpage postings. The only links not provided were the backpage links which show his real address (backpage isn't anonymous like craigslist). All of the info is how it appears on the website I just copy and pasted the page here. The keywords in the ads will help you find more, he just copy and pastes as well! LOL

I believe this guy also met them often (he says he wants to meet steadily 2-3 times a week in most of the ads).So

you think he could be uploading to a *advertiser censored* site? I can check the keywords and see what I find.

There were reports the teacher was a debt collector for the mob on the Bullshido forum links. Does the mob in Long Island have a history of trafficking women? Also he claims to have taught police officers and swat, any way he could be operating independently but well connected?