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Fingerprints can be lifted, even if a body has gone through considerable decomposition, it's a little more challenging though.
I'm sure I saw a suggestion yesterday that they might have kept the discovery secret but I can't find the post now, the reporters on the scene are all saying it happened yesterday so I'm not sure that there's any kind of cover up.
I find it strange that the same thing was said about MM, I don't think rescue services leave bodies out in the wild unattended overnight do they? IMO we don't have to doubt every facet of everything, overwhelmingly in life things are exactly as they seem, it's not one big conspiracy
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They won’t get the DNA results for several days, I think they just decided to attempt fingerprints knowing they had 10 chances and it worked. The DNA will still be done I’m sure.I am sure I have read a Spanish-language report which said that Jay was identified using DNA. I will see if I can find it again (and provide a link).
Not specifically aimed at you Guiser, but it really doesn’t matter whether he was found the day before and it was kept quiet and only family were informed. The rescue of his body was complex and may have taken planning and time, so there may well have been a delay. There have been no official announcements in this case, the press has broken the story- so maybe it was known that they had suspicions, but couldn’t properly access the area and gave the family a heads up. It was only the following morning they had the right equipment to properly go down and informally identify it was a human, not an animal and recover him.I read elsewhere that his friends were putting out RIP messages the night before which is giving the conspiracists yet another reason to get excited.
I'm only rationalising it by suggesting that if that's the case, the helicopter team may not have had time to assemble and complete a difficult recvovery before dark.
I'm only rationalising it by suggesting that if that's the case, the helicopter team may not have had time to assemble and complete a difficult recvovery before dark.
Surely it's because people think they 'could've made the walk without water' that these tragedies keep happening.Yeah I never understood that. It wasn't desert like conditions. I'm a fit 46 year old and I'm fairly sure i could've made the 11 hour walk without water. Obviously it'd be torturous but a fit young man like Jay would've managed it. RIP young man. Irrespective of his past it's a heartbreaking end to a person who'll never get a chance to raise his own kids. I hope all the speculation is killed off now and MWT never darkens our doorstep again.
I think the difference is a fall which included obstructions and tumbling on the way down (causing injuries/death)? and a very fast straight fall which caused death at the bottom - as a fall from a precipice, which is an overhanging or vertical and very dangerous type of cliff."The result of the preliminary autopsy indicates that the cause of death is due to a fall or precipitation," police say.
So if precipitation means fall, the above statement means he either fell or he fell.
I'm wondering why it's been phrased an an either/or statement, ie, that Jay either fell or it was 'precipitaion'.
And, since Chambers dictionary defines 'precipate' as "to throw or fall from or as from a height", the preliminary autopsy is either one of a fall or a throw from a great height.
At the risk of being accused of being a conspiraloon, I am not sure I'd interpret the preliminary autopsy statement from the police as meaning Jay's death was likely due to a 'fall' and nothing but a 'fall'.
That clears up the timing of when he was found. If Tenerife has anything like our air ambulance service it wouldn't take any time to mobilise the helicopter and winch up the body and searchersThe almost inaccessible spot where he died is only a few hundred yards from areas which were repeatedly searched for almost a month by police, volunteers and members of his family after his disappearance on June 17.
Jay Slater was found dead at around 10am on Monday July 15 after almost a month of searching by Spanish authorities
Jay Slater's final hours: Map reveals teen's route before 'fatal fall'
Local residents who know the area have speculated that he may have fallen while heading towards the sea so he could follow the coast to return to his hotel.www.dailymail.co.uk
The Civil Guard in Tenerife confirmed today the missing man’s body found in a ravine near the village of Masca was his and said everything was pointing to him dying in an accidental fall. They also said his injuries had included broken bones in a statement released shortly after court officials also revealed Jay’s identity had been confirmed through fingerprints after initially claiming full identification wouldn’t happen till “next week” because the body was “very deteriorated.”
The question of whether police now have a watch the 19-year-old apprentice bricklayer reportedly confessed to stealing from a reveller during an altercation outside Papagayo Beach Club near his holiday accommodation, remained unanswered last night.
Spanish cops refuse to say whether Jay's 'stolen' £12k Rolex has been recovered
It is alleged Jay Slater had confessed to stealing the Rolex watch before his death but The Civil Guard in Tenerife remained coy when asked questions about the claimswww.mirror.co.uk
That actually looks like a path before the barranco juan Lopez track - marked here 28°18'46.2"N 16°50'47.1"WThe almost inaccessible spot where he died is only a few hundred yards from areas which were repeatedly searched for almost a month by police, volunteers and members of his family after his disappearance on June 17.
Jay Slater was found dead at around 10am on Monday July 15 after almost a month of searching by Spanish authorities
Jay Slater's final hours: Map reveals teen's route before 'fatal fall'
Local residents who know the area have speculated that he may have fallen while heading towards the sea so he could follow the coast to return to his hotel.www.dailymail.co.uk
The Civil Guard in Tenerife confirmed today the missing man’s body found in a ravine near the village of Masca was his and said everything was pointing to him dying in an accidental fall. They also said his injuries had included broken bones in a statement released shortly after court officials also revealed Jay’s identity had been confirmed through fingerprints after initially claiming full identification wouldn’t happen till “next week” because the body was “very deteriorated.”
The question of whether police now have a watch the 19-year-old apprentice bricklayer reportedly confessed to stealing from a reveller during an altercation outside Papagayo Beach Club near his holiday accommodation, remained unanswered last night.
Spanish cops refuse to say whether Jay's 'stolen' £12k Rolex has been recovered
It is alleged Jay Slater had confessed to stealing the Rolex watch before his death but The Civil Guard in Tenerife remained coy when asked questions about the claimswww.mirror.co.uk
With the autopsy now in, and confirmation of injuries consistent with a fall, Brad and Lucy’s testimony: off road and lost, can we put this one to bed as death by misdadventure - please. RIP Jay.
Jay Slater: body found in Tenerife is that of missing Briton, autopsy confirms
Lancashire teenager disappeared after attending music festival on the island four weeks agowww.theguardian.com
My wife does languages. She suggested the word precipitation in Spanish would be a quicker or reckless fall - not being thrown!
(Disclaimer; there are other linguists!)