"Jersey" and MW

[LisaB]

(snip)
About the number on the hand. JMHO that DB just got that number sometime that day. (snip) obviously DB hadn't washed her hands either...............

Excuse me for saying so, but... GROSS! She was changing diapers, wiping a sick baby's nose, not to mention attending to any of her own "bathroom functions" and the possibility the baby was also vomiting. Then she fixed the kids dinner WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS? She's got my vote for Mother of the Year... not.

 

[Marple]

Did petty thief Jersey steal a GPS from the parents' car and DB respond to a craigslist ad trying to buy her very own GPS? I'd say totally beyond belief except that every time I think no more bizarre coincidences can come up, another one surfaces. All MOO.

Not really beyond belief because I have read several stories where people found their stolen goods for sale on craigslist. The police don't normally work to recover smaller ticket items from reported burglaries and looking on CL is a logical place if you think someone stole something from you with the intention of selling it.

 

[cindysue]

Well if she had the number on her hand ,it could have been written there after everyone was in bed for the night. To write in on her hand would mean she was possibly outside and not in the house where she could have access to paper , and apparently not a number she was going to save for future use either imo

 

[lauriej]

.."jersey's" hearing this a.m.----
Tampering With Motor Vehicle - 1st Degree { Felony C RSMo: 569.080 }

... was continued until nov.15th.


https://www.courts.mo.gov/casenet/cases ... Dockets.do
---john tanko docket--

11/01/201 Hearing Scheduled
Scheduled For: 11/15/2011; 9:00 AM ; JANET SUTTON; Clay

Hearing Continued/Reschedule
PD Determination. JS/lla

Hearing Continued From: 11/01/2011; 9:00 AM Hearing

 

[SyraKelly]

I am trying to put all this new info in some understandable context-I knew Jersey was MW ex-I said it on the missing phone thread-so at first I thought -he must be the one who received the call that night..but then I heard BS say MW knows one of DB extended family members who is involved with this case-I do not have a link for this info,but I know he said it on JJ this weekend.So then I am thinking..MW,Jersey and the extended family member must all know each other,but MW says she does not know DB and has never met her or JI ,but has been in there neighborhood with an ex-which is Jersey-b/c Jersey knows people from this neighborhood - he has done work for people here- so Jersey must know the drinking buddy,DB and the EFM- But at some point MW must have met the EFM,but not DB- on one of there trips through the neighborhood. Now-what happened the day Lisa went missing-We know DB went to buy wine with an extended family member- JI left for work after she got home-DB makes dinner for kids and neighbor-she puts Lisa to bed,the other kids in room to watch movie,then her and neighbor go outside to drink wine..Could Jersey have been riding around on his bike and saw them two outside drinking wine and DB asks Jersey if he has seen her extended family member and he says yes-he might be here-and DB writes MW phone # on her hand-so she can call her EFM later for whatever reason-her and neighbor continue to drink and DB has to go use the bathroom at 820 and tries to call MW for EFM and hears Lisa still awake-goes into her room and does something-I don't know what-then goes back out to drink more..the neighbor leaves at 10.30 at which time she checks on Lisa-I believe DB when she first said this and finds Lisa is not breathing-she puts her on the floor to do CPR,but realizes Lisa is dead!She starts to freak and does not know what to do-I think DB paces back and forth trying to figure out what to do-until 228-I also believe there is other call to MW's phone again and the EFM picks up and they come help DB take care of body and phones-This is where I think at least one of the boys hears and sees the EFM and knows something is going on-but does not know what.Mom is probably crying and running around and EFM is probably trying to calm her down -telling her everything will be OK.and leaves the house with baby Lisa and took her where she is now-Which I believe is the river!! This IS JMO and I know it confusing!! Please forgive the all typos -I am not perfect-LOL
I would also like to add-this is probably the reason Jersey has been cleared-all he is guilty of is giving DB- MW's phone number so she can call the FM!!

 

[captivagrl]

I think Jersey is the one that broke into JI's vehicle. I think it was reported a month before Lisa disappeared. Maybe he boosted the GPS and listed it on Craigslist?

 

[vlpate]

it was a fourth phone... three were taken

omg, what? I have to go back to work....is this new information?? Four phones? Oy vey.

 

[Evan's Mom]

Excuse me for saying so, but... GROSS! She was changing diapers, wiping a sick baby's nose, not to mention attending to any of her own "bathroom functions" and the possibility the baby was also vomiting. Then she fixed the kids dinner WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS? She's got my vote for Mother of the Year... not.

To be fair, she could have written the number on her hand with a Sharpie™.

Example: When I am sitting here at work and reading a thread that has something like 50 pages and then 4:30 PM hits, it's time to go. When I get home, I'd like to start back where I left off, so I lean over and grab a Sharpie from my purse and write the page number on my hand. When I get home, I cook dinner. I'm a germaphobe, so I continuously wash my hands to avoid any cross contamination, but still the next morning when I get up for work and my shower, that number is still on my hand. I promise I'm not nasty.

Oh and the reason I use a Sharpie to write on my hand instead of a pen like normal people?
Same reason I use a Sharpie to write on disks that I transfer data to. Sharpies will write on and stay on whatever you write them on. A pen just sucks sometimes.

 

[LisaB]

Why would DB want to hide baby Lisa from JI?

If things were troubled between them, she could have done this so she could leave him and get the baby back afterward, rather than fighting for custody up front. Or perhaps to avoid a paternity test request? If JI caught her cheating, he may have been concerned about the baby who was "SUPPOSED" to be the link connecting the two families.

 

[EllaMae]

Excuse me for saying so, but... GROSS! She was changing diapers, wiping a sick baby's nose, not to mention attending to any of her own "bathroom functions" and the possibility the baby was also vomiting. Then she fixed the kids dinner WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS? She's got my vote for Mother of the Year... not.

My goodness! This is still only a RUMOR. Just because MW said it does not make it true.
And if DB wrote it with a sharpie, which most parents have at home, it wouldn't come off easily even with hand washing. I've done that myself, and so have my kids.

 

[Jacie Estes]

FWIW and just throwing this out there, but right where they were rappelling down the hill in the first few day, there is a federal building up in the warehouses. Could be related, maybe not. But vinelink is stating he is still in custody here.

Your post just reminded me of the different caves; wonder if they have been cleared

 

[EllaMae]

To be fair, she could have written the number on her hand with a Sharpie™.

Example: When I am sitting here at work and reading a thread that has something like 50 pages and then 4:30 PM hits, it's time to go. When I get home, I'd like to start back where I left off, so I lean over and grab a Sharpie from my purse and write the page number on my hand. When I get home, I cook dinner. I'm a germaphobe, so I continuously wash my hands to avoid any cross contamination, but still the next morning when I get up for work and my shower, that number is still on my hand. I promise I'm not nasty.

Oh and the reason I use a Sharpie to write on my hand instead of a pen like normal people?
Same reason I use a Sharpie to write on disks that I transfer data to. Sharpies will write on and stay on whatever you write them on. A pen just sucks sometimes.

Great minds think alike and post at the same time! :floorlaugh:

 

[SurfieTX]

omg, what? I have to go back to work....is this new information?? Four phones? Oy vey.

No, not necessarily new. It was on the search warrant. A 4th phone was found in a bottom drawer of a desk in the computer room. My guess is just an older, outdated phone...but, I've been wrong before...

 

[LisaB]

To be fair, she could have written the number on her hand with a Sharpie™

This is true, of course. But my comment "Excuse me for saying so, but... GROSS! She was changing diapers, wiping a sick baby's nose, not to mention attending to any of her own "bathroom functions" and the possibility the baby was also vomiting. Then she fixed the kids dinner WITHOUT WASHING HER HANDS? She's got my vote for Mother of the Year... not. " was a direct response to the post I quoted, i.e.:

Originally Posted by Wise Old Owl
(snip)
About the number on the hand. JMHO that DB just got that number sometime that day. (snip) obviously DB hadn't washed her hands either...............

WOO suggested that DB had not washed her hands. She may have or may not have, but my remark was based on the ASSUMPTION that it would be taken in the context of WOOs comment that she had not.

Sorry to confuse you.

 

[Kamille]

Well if she had the number on her hand ,it could have been written there after everyone was in bed for the night. To write in on her hand would mean she was possibly outside and not in the house where she could have access to paper , and apparently not a number she was going to save for future use either imo

I've been known to write things on my hand when I'm in the car and have a pen handy but not paper. Just saying....

ETA: Who was she in the car with just prior to that evening?

MOO

 

[Evan's Mom]

Great minds think alike and post at the same time! :floorlaugh:

Sharpies are like gold in my household.
The kids steal them from me every chance they get and I probably have at least five in my purse.

 

[LisaB]

Timeline - MT reports he saw man carrying baby about 4:00 am and JI was calling 911 about 4:00 am.

Today I got to work "about 8". In actuality, I did not pull onto the parking lot until 8:12. Assume that leaves a 24 minute "window" (in MY case) as I'd still have said I arrived "about 8" if I got there at 7:48. "About" is a vague term.

 

[cityslick]

I see MW is starting to hit the tv circuit now (Politan tonight). Another hit to the credibility score in my book.

 

[pistolina]

After listening to neighbor Mary Hurt on JVM, I honestly cannot believe Jersey is not a suspect.
10-31-11 neighbor mary hurt of missing MO baby lisa mp4 - YouTube

Until I know which neighbor was out on the porch drinking with DB, I don't think I can believe anything any of the neighbors say. This woman coming out now could have her own agenda for throwing Jersey into this. JMO

 

[LisaB]

EXACTLY what I have been thinking! Wonder if something was happening to bring this issue to a head......

JI meets DB. They hook up, and soon Baby Lisa arrives. Maybe planned, maybe not. Maybe a way for DB to get JI to marry her? Were things rocky between them a year and a half ago?

When JI finds she has (recently) been unfaithful ("cheating on her husb..." - my S.O. sometimes calls me his wife inadvertantly, so he may not have meant "husband" literally) he suggests a paternity test before they go any further in planning to marry.

100% pure speculation.