jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 12TH DAY #60 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[katiecoolady]

Because it's really easy to see someone's expressions as they are skating away from you. Especially since she's nearsighted and couldn't even tell what the shiny rectangular thing was leaning up against the curb.

rrrrrrrrrrrrrright.

 

[Meemaw12]

I hope the jury feels like I do
Yesterday JM set her up and locked her in
Today he brings it home

 

[dani]

And Twinkies...and Keith Richards. All things that will survive the apocalypse.

Keith Richards is dead…he just won't lay down. :floorlaugh:

 

[katiecoolady]

Yep! I just watched it, so that's why I remember it so well. Certainly it would have left my brain by now had it been any longer.

It takes a Village.

 

[Kensie]

Good Morning everyone. I am looking forward to living the trial through this website. I wish the better half had some interest in it but he doesn't and he thinks JA will walk. Of course I feel differently.

On a sidenote, I read on National Enquirer that JA has a girlfriend in jail and that they are going to raise a baby together. Brian Carr will be the father. Whatever!!!
Kind of thought it was humorouse.

 

[katiecoolady]

I hope the jury feels like I do
Yesterday JM set her up and locked her in
Today he brings it home

Totally agree. Today will be big (and horrible for the family).

 

[Sustained]

yes i always worry some yuppy will engage me in a smack down for my frappay latte foamed over priced coffee. However rest stops in the desert don't bother me.

And neither does sleeping in a U-Haul overnight pulled off the road somewhere ... unless she had company.

 

[outofstatelawyer]

Regarding the buffoon Mr. Nurmi: did anyone notice his suit the other day? The jacket has two back vents, and he failed to clip the threads that keep them attached to the suit while it's in the store? They also sew up the pockets, and you have to clip the threads. WTH is his wife? The man needs a keeper.

 

[JusticeJunkie]

The part where she says he always stopped when I asked him to is going to be hard for the expert to explain.
They are probably cringing at her testimony.

 

[ButForFortune]

I won't this again as I've said it a million times but I cannot stand the female defense lawyer. She has the nerve to shake her head at JM when's he is questioning her client. She smiles and smirks and looks in AWE of JA half the time and when JM dares get serious in a murder trial she shakes her head. Vent over. No more about her!

She bugged me yesterday, too. I had previously admired her professionalism. No more. The defense team acts soooo proud of their protege. Except for the mitigation specialist - her demeanor has changed 100% - she is uber-serious now.

 

[jevipo74]

3. Revenge: She gave Travis all the sex he wanted and in every which way, and he took it but didn't consider him marriage material.

4: Rage/Malice: She wanted to make sure he could not have anyone else, and no one besides her would have him.

It's the other way around. He didn't consider her marriage material and told his friends as such. He told his friends he had no respect for her because she had none for herself.

 

[popsicle]

Sorry but you're wrong!

The trial of a capital case is divided into two separate proceedings. The first is the guilt phase of the trial, at
which the prosecutor presents factual evidence as to the defendant’s guilt for the murder. The second phase is
the sentencing proceeding, called the aggravation and mitigation hearing. During the aggravation and mitigation
hearing, the prosecutor presents evidence as to the existence of aggravating circumstances, and the defense (or
the prosecution) presents evidence as to the existence of mitigating circumstances. Both parts of the trial are
presided over by the same judge, however, the finder of fact at the guilt phase is a jury, and the finder of fact at
the sentencing phase is the trial court judge.
http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/IntRpt.PDF

Supreme Court Declares Juries, Not Judges Must Decide Critical Sentencing Issues
In a 7-2 decision in the case of Ring v. Arizona, the U.S. Supreme Court held that a defendant has the right to have a jury, rather than a judge, decide on the existence of an aggravating factor that makes the defendant eligible for the death penalty. In its decision, the Court held that a death sentence where the necessary aggravating factors are determined by a judge violates a defendant's constitutional right to a trial by jury.

Notes on Judge Sentencing
Arizona (formerly judge sentencing. New: jury to determine whether aggravating and mitigating circumstances exist and if the death penalty will be imposed)

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/us-supreme-court-ring-v-arizona

 

[LizardQueen74]

The Starbucks skater story is almost as absurd as the ninja warrior intruder story.

Here we have ?? California adolescent male skaters, who are out and about after 9PM in a public parking lot, who are looking to perform a prank. There must be over 20 cars parked at Starbucks.
YET the skaters decide to pick JA car – a white car chosen to avoid detection- which is parked near the opening of Starbucks. Pranksters generally would pick a car well away from the store.

The pranksters amazingly have a properly fitting screwdriver with a Philips head. During the 5-10 minutes JA is inside Starbucks the skaters unscrew 4 screws on the front plate; remove the plate entirely AND then carefully place the CA license plate oblique against the curb facing forward. Why would a prankster take the time and effort to remove a plate and then carefully set it into place alongside the curb??
PLUS the same prankster – we assume – also took the time to remove 4 screws on the back plates and instead of tossing these plates, the skaters remove the plate, rotate it 180 degrees, and then take the time to screw it back on. And - mind you - this is ALL done at night time with little light shining on the car's rear. Makes absolutely NO SENSE.

Arias backs out of the parking stall and sees a flash. She steps outside the car in order to view this suspicious “flash in the night”. Alas JA discovers “ A CALIF plate”. She then grabbed the plate and tossed it into the car. As JM emphasized JA could not have known that CA plate belonged to her UNLESS she went to the back of the car to check the rear license plate. BUT because she secured a loose license plate that may or may not have belonged with the rental car she was overcome by a sense of menace and opted to lock the doors and drive away immediately.

The story is completely fabricated to conceal her alteration of the plates and is absurd on its face.

This deserves more than a plain thanks...This is spot on!:rocker:

 

[Isabelle]

me too. Missing details like this bugs me. No reports of her rental being seen. WTH

Can't recall, but did Travis have a 2 car garage?

 

[Hopeful One]

Fortunately I don't know what its like in her head. Unfortunately I do know what its like living with someone eerily similar though so I'll offer this up, fwiw.

First think of psychopathy like your personality. You're made up of all bits and pieces and so is Jodi. For the most part you're good and rule abiding, right? But every so often you can be naughty or do something wrong - which leads you to feeling guilty, embarrassed or perhaps even ashamed.

Jodi can't feel those emotions the same as you or I. She feels an insatiable anger almost constantly. But years of living with humans has taught her it isn't acceptable to show her anger and its level. She learns by default it isn't normal and though she can't feel guilt, shame or embarrassment herself she does learn that humans don't like to feel them. So she adapts because she has no other choice. She studies the humans around her and learns what joy, fear, heartbreak, loss, embarrassment and every other conceivable human emotion look like. She looks human. She sounds human. Everyone seems to believe she is human. So she learns at a very early age how to pretend to emote as a human.

Because of her psychopathy it only matters to Jodi what she wants and what makes her feel good. She cannot feel empathy or put others first for their own benefit. Everything in her world must revolve around her. She learns to manipulate and control in order to facilitate this. She is adept at it due to her psychopathy. In a way she is even 'programmed' to easily prey on others. No conscience and no empathy. The extreme greed and selfishness of only her really every mattering. She'll use every trick she can think of, engineer any event - all to make people more reliant on her, more trusting of her, more compassionate of her, more giving to her. Ultimately it is always, always about her.

As long as things go Jodi's way she can be affable and charming. Once she is challenged though she becomes a hotbed of psychological manipulators only designed to make humans feel bad and comply with whatever she wants. Either way they will often stop challenging her though - which is the important part. Push her further still and she struggles with keeping up the pretense of being human. When the mask slips on a psychopath even the 'worst' human traits can't describe them. It's beyond jealousy, vindictiveness or even rage. It's something so cold, so animalistic it sparks a flight response in humans. (You may not recognize what you're seeing - it is purely instinctual to get away from it for self-preservation.)

When Jodi is hopping all over herself on the witness stand we are witnessing her true disorder at play. Psychopaths just cannot withstand scrutiny and challenging day after day, while trying to remember their lies, and also attempting to maintain their facade. Because it is so foreign to how we humans feel it can border on incomprehension seeing them in that state. In reality when you look at it like a juggling act it becomes perfectly clear how difficult what she is doing really is - and how unfathomable for any human being to be capable of the same. We really are different species.

(Yee gatz. Sorry for the novel. Again. :blushing

EXCELLENT post!! Thank you!!!

 

[Karmady]

had a thought about the third gas can that JA is so adamant about returning to Wallmart and yet can't produce a receipt for the return on.

I am thinking she used the 2. whatever gallons in that can to have a nice little bonfire in the desert destroying evidence (her clothes, etc). Maybe she burned the gas can as well, on purpose or because she did not expect the fire to ignite so forcefully and had the gas can too close to her little bonfire.

It would be pretty risky to start a bonfire anywhere in AZ in June. Especially at night I would think since it would be more visible. The entire State is like a giant tinder box about 9 mos. out of the year and you're not allowed to burn anything outdoors almost anyplace. LE would be alert to a fire in the desert, imo. I'm sure y'all have read about some of the insane wild fires we've had here.

Also, I read upthread that the rental car receipt says the car smelled smoky and that someone's friend in the business said that the receipt would be the one issued at the time of the rental rather than upon return, fwiw. So idk about the burning the clothes theory. jmo

 

[Turnadot]

Reading in the court-watcher thread that there might be 2 female jurors who conceivable are still receptive to JA?

If true, is it likely the DT will be tailoring what is left of their case to target just those 2?

A very minor for example...Maybe they think so what if JA creeps out the male jurors when she openly laughs at questions relating to dressing up in school girl clothes, because the 2 female jurors are their only target audience and they think would identify with JA on this?

I want to say something about this, because I think it's drawn from the idea that because they face her, they feel sympathy for her or whatever. I want to point out that I'm a woman and I would face Jodi during cross to see her reactions - not because I feel sympathy, because I don't, but because I'm an assertive type of woman who looks at people, especially when I know they're full of crap.

Also, I think body language experts are basically pedaling woo-woo.

IMO

 

[Meemaw12]

Totally agree. Today will be big (and horrible for the family).

I can't imagine what they are feeling
Just hope it's over soon

 

[4Jacy]

HLN does carry it. I record it all day in case I miss something on the live feed while at work.

HLN only carries it here after 3:00 PM EST, and they have a commercial every 2 minutes!!

 

[Liebchenmutti]

I don't understand why JA always says that she "knew about" the Cancun trip for a year, knew that Travis would have a ticket for a guest, but just didn't care one little bit that he wasn't taking her.

Although Cancun itself isn't listed in that '1000 places' book, there are some places very close to it that ARE listed--ruins, or something. I looked it up in the book a while ago--maybe someone can provide a link?

WHY would Jodi be ok with not going if she learned about it a year ago? If I was Travis' girlfriend, I would expect to go. There's just no way that this trip is a coincidence to have been around the time of the murder. She's lying.