jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 13TH DAY #63 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Really?]

It wasn't in the hallway. If was in the bedroom facing the bathroom taking a picture of her foot and his body. Juan pointed past his foot and asked her is that the bathroom. Next picture is in the hallway showing the baseboard and his body. How is it the camera keeps moving???? jmo

Yeah, but, how did it get from the bathroom by the tub ( as per JA )......into the bedroom facing the bathroom?

 

[rose222]

Anyone else wondering what to do for 3 whole days before redirect starts? I'm wishing my weekend away again.Justice cannot get here fast enough.

 

[MsCharlieChan]

THANK YOU so much for that link!!! I bookmarked it because I want to watch it over and over and over again. It was definitely one of the trial highlights of the day for me.

What a priceless look of CONFUSION on Jodi's face, when asked to demo the linebacker! I guess her rehearsals didn't get that far. A better actress would have had this together.

At least she tried to angle her head to match the bullet trajectory. Close, but no cigar, though. The angle she demonstrated really doesn't work.

His head would have had to have been turned with his chin touching his shoulder for the bullet to enter and travel that way... and who charges at someone NOT LOOKING AT THEM, but with their head turned so far around that their chin could touch their shoulder?

Then she says she can't remember any words TA was screaming at her after she shot him. That's because his conversation probably entailed words like, "Stop! Please NO... Our father who art in heaven..."

God bless and R.I.P.

 

[tang]

This came up on the armchair discussion thread. I didn't think my followup belonged there so I've moved it here. Hope that is okay...

I've told my kids not to expect to see me in court to support them if they ever do something like Jodi did.

That's an interesting discussion point for parents reading this. While I could never justify such a heinous activity, I think I would show up in court for my child. I've always told them that I'd love them unconditionally and I believe that I would. I don't think that showing support for the child equates to approving of their actions.

 

[connie9030]

The prosecutor missed a big opportunity to completely throw out Arias's claim of being in a "fog" immediately after she shot Travis, in yesterday's cross examination.

When he showed her the picture of the shell casing on top of the blood and argued it ended up there after Travis was already bleeding, she looked up long enough to say "it didn't start out there". How does she know the shell casing was somewhere else originally if she went into a fog immediately after she shot him? I hope someone on the jury picks up on this statement.

 

[Candy_Pickletoes]

I was thinking the same thing as well. When Juan was pointing the lack of disturbance of items.

I've had a few accidental " flip ups" of a shelf and it is not pretty. haha

I bet we will hear about this fact when the State is up at bat again.

I wish I had a walk-in closet period.

LOL, I've had more than a few accidental "flip ups". So many, in fact, that I probably could be qualified as an "expert" witness in that field. LOL I don't know why I don't learn from it!

Agree on the walk-in closet point, I especially wish I had one like that!

 

[camcneishg]

When I first saw that pic it did look like his right leg is crossed over his left but his legs weren't crossed. It's an illusion of some kind since you can't see his left leg and part of his right knee doesn't show.

I also thought his legs were crossed, but thanks for making me look again....I see now that they were not....

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I kinda thought some of her sobbing was real. Mostly......or.....all .....for the mess she got herself into.

I agree. I saw it as crying out of GUILT? Not remorse. Not trying to sucker the jury. Pure and simple guilt. And the fact that she realized her goose is cooked and she KNEW JM exposed her lies about what happened that day.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

This came up on the armchair discussion thread. I didn't think my followup belonged there so I've moved it here. Hope that is okay...


That's an interesting discussion point for parents reading this. While I could never justify such a heinous activity, I think I would show up in court for my child. I've always told them that I'd love them unconditionally and I believe that I would. I don't think that showing support for the child equates to approving of their actions.

I agree. However, i truly believe i couldnt perjure myself ala Cindy Anthony.

 

[Really?]

Anyone else wondering what to do for 3 whole days before redirect starts? I'm wishing my weekend away again.Justice cannot get here fast enough.

I'm going to a cold beach and will be here more times than DH will like......LOL

 

[rose222]

I'm pretty much over anyone slamming Martinez's cross because today was a masterpiece. So much so that even my sister, who I am sorry to say was a HUGE supporter of Jodi - she believed the abuse self defense claim 100% - completely flipped the other way based on today's cross.

Yes. If anyone thinks JM isn't brilliant then I suggest they take legal reasoning 101, a few classes on common sense (if there is such a thing) and also get their eyes and ears checked at the doctors.

 

[LambChop]

She was ready to tell the sequence of events during the murder - said she disagreed with the ME version. She was going to tell how the casing ended up on top of that blood pool. She would have told us anything today.

Why overkill? Rage + attempt to divert blame maybe.

She can't know how the bullet casing landed on top of the blood because she claims to have no memory of the stabbing. The blood is near the sink, not the tub. Even if it were kicked it would have been after she stabbed him and she claims she was running away from him after she shot him. She's done as far as telling us what happened. Now the State will prove what actually happened. If she shot him and got away, she was running towards the hall according to her testimony. He was shot so why didn't she just keep going???? She is trapped by her own inconsistencies in her testimony. I think the only way to save herself now is to tell the truth and ask the jury for mercy. jmo

 

[camcneishg]

Not possible with the time stamps

5:30:30pm - sitting in shower
5:31:14pm - ceiling
5:32:16pm - leg, foot, Travis
5:33:32pm - wall, baseboard, Travis

but didn't we hear that some of the photos were not recovered? some of the deleted ones? they could be in between where it would all make sense for a timer, no?

 

[MsCharlieChan]

At least on JVM they called her out on the smile behind the hands!
Hope Juan can use that to ask the jury if this woman is remorseful or acting.......and ask them to think back if any tears they saw were for TRAVIS or for herself.
(Won't happen, I know - but I am a dreamer!)

I also think it was a fake cry. I think I saw one tear fall from her chin, and that was noteworthy.

But I looked for signs of breathlessness and saw none. Her shoulders should have been jerking periodically, with her head bobbing now and then. I've never seen anyone hide their face LIKE their crying, but their body's barely heaving, still the whole time. JODI WAS FAKING.

 

[LambChop]

I agree. I saw it as crying out of GUILT? Not remorse. Not trying to sucker the jury. Pure and simple guilt. And the fact that she realized her goose is cooked and she KNEW JM exposed her lies about what happened that day.

The State has blood from her left hand on his wall in the hallway.

 

[Pammy13]

What about juror questions for Jodi?

 

[Really?]

What a priceless look of CONFUSION on Jodi's face, when asked to demo the linebacker! I guess her rehearsals didn't get that far. A better actress would have had this together.

At least she tried to angle her head to match the bullet trajectory. Close, but no cigar, though. The angle she demonstrated really doesn't work.

His head would have had to have been turned with his chin touching his shoulder for the bullet to enter and travel that way... and who charges at someone NOT LOOKING AT THEM, but with their head turned so far around that their chin could touch their shoulder?

Then she says she can't remember any words TA was screaming at her after she shot him. That's because his conversation probably entailed words like, "Stop! Please NO... Our father who art in heaven..."

God bless and R.I.P.

BBM

If, and only if, it did happen the way JA demonstrated. That Travis tried to charge her as she held the gun. He tried to turn his head away from the muzzle. Then he lived through the gun shot by turning his head away from the muzzle.

Sad to think it would have been better for him if he hadn't turned his head away.

She is a murderess. She will be remembered as a murderess and not as a sad, used and discarded piece of tail she may seem to some.

moo

 

[Nali87]

I predict a mistrial or acquittal. Juan botched the case on cross for the most part.

THE ITALIC PARTS ARE MINE.


1. He didn't establish a credible motive. No focus whatsoever on the May 26th text exchange (where he was very mean to her) and no attempt to link it to the May 28th "burglary". He seems to think that cancun crap is enough. It isn't.

I'm late to the case but I'd assume he did this before resting their case?


2. No attempt to refute her claim that Travis guilted her into seeing him. Juan could have pointed out the flurry of phone calls she made to him on June 3rd to undermine her lies.

I saw more than an ATTEMPT at this. He practically got her to admit there was no talk of guilting her into to doing anything. Since guilting implies forcing someone do something they really didn't want to. Jodi admitted that she was FLATTERED by the attention. He brought it up a lot.


3. Never properly pointed out the inconsistency of her sexual talk and fantasies and her claims of being raped during the relationship. She claims she was anally raped in 2007. When describing this she pretended to act like she was raped, by pausing, crying, etc. Yet, just a little while later she's exploring her sexual fantasies with him, requesting facials and wanting to frak him like a "horny little school girl". Juan should have pointed out how far-fetched it was for a rape victim to continue to engage in mutual, enjoyable, kinky sexual relationship with her rapist. This would have crushed her whole "sexual abuse" crap. I don't feel that Juan made this point clearly enough.

I think he made his point about this. He brought up a lot of texts and telephone calls about Jodi wanting to put her hair in braids and how hot she thought it was. And he got her to imply that the texts her defense was referring to could also be part of their sexual fantasies.


4. He had her cornered on the rope issue. She bungled by admitting that she had no reason for throwing the rope away. Juan could have pointed out that "reason". The rope was imaginary -- conjured up to explain the knife's close proximity to the crime scene -- and her lie about throwing it in the dumpster was made up to explain why no rope was recovered.

Again, I don't think he's allowed to point out the reason and be argumentative. He's got her to admit plently! He kept repeating over and over again how improbable it was that there ever was a rope! Where would the rope would have fell? He kept bringing that up and asking questions about it.

In cross examination he is not allowed to: pursuing a line of questions despite witness’s denial of knowledge and wrapping it up all neatly for the jury.

5. The gun!!! He had her here too. All he had to ask was;

Juan: Isn't it true that the reason you disposed of the gun was because it didn't belong to Travis but to your grandparent and you knew that leaving it at the scene would have further implicated you?

I think again, you want him to ask more things under cross that are allowed, in my opinion. He can't be argumentative, he can't be drawing conclusions. I think he will tie it all together neatly in his final statement. He brought up that the grandparents had a gun that were stolen. He brought up holes in Jodi's story about that day. Regarding her laptop not being stolen etc. He brought up that she said Travis didn't have a gun. He brought up and she admitted to getting rid of evidence, messing with the scene of the crime to benefit her.

He got her to admit to all of these things.
All he needs to do now is tie it all together and he's got time for that.
Cross examination is not the place to do it.
What you want and what I'm sure Juan will deliver belongs in closing arguments.

IMO.

 

[snowcat]

Well are the time stamps evenly spaced apart - after the first two?

Gotta say she seemed stunned when Flores first told her they had pics.

It has been mentioned that
Le weren't able to retrieve all of the deletions so very possible the timer was used and some photos are missing from sequence

 

[BD1]

The prosecutor missed a big opportunity to completely throw out Arias's claim of being in a "fog" immediately after she shot Travis, in yesterday's cross examination.

When he showed her the picture of the shell casing on top of the blood and argued it ended up there after Travis was already bleeding, she looked up long enough to say "it didn't start out there". How does she know the shell casing was somewhere else originally if she went into a fog immediately after she shot him? I hope someone on the jury picks up on this statement.

I laying bets defense will bring out Arias says gun jammed.