Jodi Arias Trial Discussion #8 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[polleypockets]

Doesn't it show that she was not understanding the enormity of her situation? Not sure thats a legal argument.

it does to you or me - peronally i woulda been in a ball in the corner crying lawyer! - but i think as long as she says she understands her rights that is all that is required by law - imo

 

[LambChop]

IMO the gun was her protection. I think the knife was the way she wanted it to go. Up close and personal. Likely delighted in watching the life drain from poor Travis.

Sort of goes along with that last hurtful comment to her when he told her he was just as sex boy with a "heartbeat". The heart stab was very personal. Gunshot to the head was not. jmo

 

[JSR]

That slid past me but honestly that is pretty odd. I do not even
have my husbands grandmas address memorized.

I don't think it would be weird if you were a WIFE who knew those sorts of addresses a ex girlfriend that he only dated for 5 months? Not so much.

Not sure about everyone else but I do all the birthday cards/christmas cards etc. My husband isn't the one to do that sort of stuff so between the two of us I know more of the addresses than he does.

 

[AngelWings444]

Does anyone believe that some of the jurors aren't following a little of this in the news or talking to family about it???

I believe most jurors take their civic duty very serious. In this case, I am sure they just want to get home and tune it all out. Can't imagine having to listen to her garbage all day and then wanting to watch it again in the evening. I know for a fact, none of them would be googling those naked pictures. They deserve hazard pay for having to see those things. Ewww.

 

[kscornfed]

She could never stab him, good grief no!

As she asks with a sparkle in her eye, how many times was he stabbed?

Just like yippee can I please see the pics, morbid curiosity all all that jazz!


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that was so bizarre. she's so obsessive, she probably just really needed to know exactly how many stab wounds there were to see if it matches how she remembers it.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I honestly believe she wanted to meet with his family and friends to see their faces as she "comforted them" sharing her ninja story. She wanted to see their pain.

She's clueless about how to act when a loved one dies. She was cold and never shed a tear at the memorial.

If she were a better psychopath she would have taken notes while attending it!


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[manzana]

After sitting thru it in court? I doubt they want to hear about it afterwards. jmo

I disagree especially if they missed some of the sex pics or wanted to see them better, I have no idea why, but I know how feverishly people online looked for them. Like they say curiosity killed the cat.

 

[Justme84]

I don't think it would be weird if you were a WIFE who knew those sorts of addresses a ex girlfriend that he only dated for 5 months? Not so much.

Not sure about everyone else but I do all the birthday cards/christmas cards etc. My husband isn't the one to do that sort of stuff so between the two of us I know more of the addresses than he does.

I do all that stuff too but its all written down not in my head. Props to you if you have all the addresses memorized. I certainly would not remember those from a guy that I dated for 5 months especially if it had been over a year since we were together. Its not like shes gonna write his granny a letter.

Hello Granny,
Hi this is Travis' **** buddy. Hope you are doing good. I have been watching out for your grandson.

Sincerely,
Jodi

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

OMG...I'm ready for something to start....is anyone seeing anything other than the state seal and replay of the interview?

 

[gitana1]

That link is AMAZING and I highly recommend reading any of the minutes you guys have time for. I don't know what to believe as fas as what JA finally told the police as far as the sequence of wounds, but in the official minutes it has been noted several times that he was shot first????

I missed the ME's testimony...did he ever give a final conclusion as to the series of how he believes the wounds occured?

TIA for answering my question. I work all day and only get to see bits and pieces at a time. These threads move so fast it is impossible to work and catch every detail.

"The State presented evidence that the victim was first shot on the right side of his head near
his eye with a .25 caliber handgun and that the bullet lodged in his left cheek. This wound was not
fatal and may or may not have rendered the victim unconscious. The victim did not remain
unconscious based on the infliction of the other wounds and the location of blood spatter evidence
in the bathroom sink and blood in the hallway. In addition, the defendant told the police that the
victim was unconscious after being shot but then crawled around and was stabbed."

My opposing party failed to show and won't show up until this afternoon so now I get to wait for hours. But, I can check in here. Anything exciting?

As to the above, I'm no med expert but I can imagine the ME getting this wrong. He did say decomposition was intense and blood is slippery. Maybe it wouldn't stick to a slick, metal surface so well.

In an event, she brought a gun. So, she probably intended to use it and I can see him surging a gun shot for awhile. When he strayed screaming and trying to get her to get help, she might have then stabbed him in the chest. I do think he ninja scenario mirrored what she did a bit.

 

[m00c0w]

OMG...I'm ready for something to start....is anyone seeing anything other than the state seal and replay of the interview?

They're at recess. It won't start back until somewhere around 3:30 EST.

 

[Katprint]

I know this has been discussed ad nauseum. Butt (lol), she is a planner. She dyes her hair. She steals a gun. She gets a car that is one of a billion.

She stabs him first?

TA looks like quite a beefy guy. She is small. And we have seen she does not have a six pack.

I would shoot someone. Trying to stab a huge guy makes no sense to me.

It does make sense that she shot him first and the gun jammed . Then she took the time to get a knife from somewhere.


The knife makes no sense in light of all of her other planning

I agree that she probably did shoot him in the front of the head first, knocking out his ability to fight back/defend himself. Then, because she is a humongous DRAMA QUEEN, she repeatedly stabbed him with a knife - probably aiming for his heart - in symbolic retaliation for him having stabbed her in the heart emotionally (from her irrational point of view.) Despite the substantial brain damage from the bullet, he may still have had enough brainpower left to try to escape from the ongoing stabbing; his motor centers may still have been intact enough despite the destruction of his thought/emotion/logic centers. Kind of like someone might be immediately after a massive or even lethal stroke i.e. not being able to speak or walk but being able to move a little.

Based on her weird little smiles and smirks especially when the jury isn't present, I think she got a lot of pleasure from planning out what she was going to do to him and that she still gets pleasure from thinking about what she did to him. I think she brought both the gun and the knife from home (perhaps her grandparents are missing a knife too even if that was not reported at the time of the so-called "burglary") thus none of the knives in TA's knife block set were found to have been used in the stabbing. I think she brought both the gun and the knife into the bathroom with her, maybe tucked into her pant pockets while she was holding the camera. Then she quickly put down/dropped the camera, pulled out the gun, shot him, pulled out the knife, and stabbed him repeatedly. She intended him to suffer (*as I have suffered*) until her final coup de grace of slitting his throat.

Katprint
Always only my own opinions

 

[nursebeeme]

I disagree especially if they missed some of the sex pics or wanted to see them better, I have no idea why, but I know how feverishly people online looked for them. Like they say curiosity killed the cat.

if they do, they can find themselves in a world of legal trouble.

We have to keep in mind that they have been warned and have accepted their duty as jurors and trust that they are doing their jobs.

They are a death penalty qualified jury.

Jury misconduct is no small thing. It can turn over entire cases that have been developed for years.

At this point we all have to trust that they are taking their oath seriously.:twocents:

 

[polleypockets]

What is "the admonition"?

its like a warning or reminder - you have the admonition not to discuss - you have been warned/told not to discuss

 

[jevipo74]

OMG...I'm ready for something to start....is anyone seeing anything other than the state seal and replay of the interview?

They are on lunch.

 

[KMouse]

I honestly believe she wanted to meet with his family and friends to see their faces as she "comforted them" sharing her ninja story. She wanted to see their pain.

She's clueless about how to act when a loved one dies. She was cold and never shed a tear at the memorial.

If she were a better psychopath she would have taken notes while attending it!


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I wish there was video of her at Travis' memorial. I bet she was a social butterfly trying to align herself with his family.

 

[polleypockets]

if they do, they can find themselves in a world of legal trouble.

We have to keep in mind that they have been warned and have accepted their duty as jurors and trust that they are doing their jobs.

They are a death penalty qualified jury.

Jury misconduct is no small thing. It can turn over entire cases that have been developed for years.

At this point we all have to trust that they are taking their oath seriously.:twocents:

can't you go to jail for jury misconduct?

 

[Melanie]

I didn't when I was a juror but there are allegations of juror misconduct in a lot of trials so who knows. :waitasec:

totally OT, but I was on a criminal case years ago, where this guy stole a gun, and it was caught on tape (he tried to say it was his dads, blah, blah, blah). It was an obvious open/shut case, and I even wondered why we were sitting there.

We all voted guilty, figured he'd do a few years in jail. But afterwards I wondered why there was media in the lobby and why they wanted to talk to me and why his girlfriend was having a nervous breakdown (I didn't say anything)! Scratching my head, I went home and read that this was a 3-striker, and the guy was facing a minimum of 25 years! :what:

He didn't kill anyone, and I don't know if he intended to. But last I heard, he was still in prison. Just a young stupid kid, who made some bad choices.

Would that have changed my decision to NG (knowing this guy could get 25-life) I don't know. But I think it would have made my decision a bit more difficult.

So that's why jurors aren't supposed to read the newspapers or watch media. Because it could sway their decision.

Just my experience.

Mel

 

[Truthwillsetufree]

They're at recess. It won't start back until somewhere around 3:30 EST.

Thank you, I was at the threshold of a panic attack. Thought I was missing something......

 

[popoju]

LOL im done doing meme for the day too much fun here