Wow, her story about why her license plate was missing is "way out there".:floorlaugh:
What was her story????
Yes, I agree. I read an article (maybe on Huff Post) where she accused him of it but I haven't seen anything else. She better hope there was something on his computer to support that because that's the only chance she has. I don't buy it for one second though.
I don't get how you can go from sex/showering/pics to murder in 2 minutes though? And why did she even have a gun (or was it his)? The most I know about this was the couple of 48 hours and Dateline episodes I saw and random reading this week.
I think she planned to murder him in the shower. I think she went over there, planning to seduce him and get him into the shower, where she would shoot him.
I don;t think she killed him on the bed and then dragged him to the shower. That makes no sense. I think she had him in the shower, asked him to pose and while he was doing so, told him to hold on a moment and pulled out a gun or came back with a gun. She then shot him but he didn't die right away and may have dragged himself out of the shower. So she got a knife and began stabbing him.
You can go from sex photos to murder in two minutes if it was planned that way. Which is awful cold and calculating.
You jogged my memory, and yes Jodi does want to say that Travis was a pedophile. When she was representing herself in 2011 she tried to have some letters put into evidence where Travis "confessed". The prosecution had the letters tested and proved they were forgeries. The letters were not allowed at that time and Jodi decided she wasn't qualified to represent herself and 2 public defenders were reappointed to her case.
"August 16, 2011 A request to admit letters that Arias claimed to receive from Alexander prior to his death was denied. In the letters, Alexander allegedly admitted to being a pedophile. Prosecutor Juan Martinez told the court that the letters were tested and found to be forgeries. After the ruling, Arias told Judge Stephens that she was "over her head." The judge then reinstated her defense counsel. Arias' third story was detailed in the court documents as part of the request that she made to admit electronic copies of Alexander's alleged letters. "Defendant had previously attributed the crime to intruders. She now argues that all of the letters must be admitted to support her domestic violence defense," prosecutors wrote in a motion to preclude the letters. "Defendant argues that the letters are relevant to her claim of self-defense and that she was a victim of previous 'sexual and physical abuse' by Mr. Alexander." Arias, according to prosecutors, claimed that Alexander "became angry when she dropped his camera" and that she was forced to kill him in self-defense."
http://www.azfamily.com/home/related/Jodi-Arias-Case-timeline-185418642.html
What a pig this woman is. If I was Travis' family, it would be all I could do to prevent myself from jumping over the rail and stabbing her in the eyes and throat with a pen. Sorry. But can you imagine having your beloved son, brother, etc., be gruesomely murdered and then have his murderer call him a pedophile? All the while flirting and coyly trying to charm everyone into setting her free? I could not stomach that. I would lose my mind and there would be an "incident" that would land me in jail.
not good for the state to bring up sex, the drive to copulate is greater than the fear of god for most people especially men. All this will do is open a door for the defense to say he was hiding his true identity and sex drive
Nah. He talked about his sex life with his friends and that's sure to be part of the prosecution's narrative. He admitted that she was not marriage material and he wanted to get rid of her but that it was hard to say no to a naked chick who climbs into your bed.
I don't see how that hurts the state's case. On the contrary, it shows why the defendant was becoming more desperate and angry. He would settle for sex but wanted nothing more.
The worst problem for the prosecution and the best thing for the defense is that the roommate didn't smell anything, supposedly. JMO
I just don't see how this is an issue. First of all, there are various reasons why that would be. The door was closed, maybe the smell just didn't seep out too much. Maybe they smelled something but dismissed it as something else. Maybe the home is big and they didn't have much reason to be by his door. Maybe they are stinky, messy guys and didn't register anything that strange. Second, I read somewhere that they did smell something - just not as powerful as when the door was finally opened. Third, we know that she admitted, finally, to killing him. So whether or not the roommates smelled something is irrelevant (red herring alert).
I also like how each witness is questioned by the state and then the defense immediately - it makes it very easy to follow and not forget testimony.
Hey, unless I'm crazy, that's how it always works! At least in California and in every trial I have ever watched in any state!
I'm sorry this is just infuriating to me that this NPD individual is still being fed copious amounts of self fulfilling narcissism by "winning" singing competions that they have behind bars!arrrggghhhhh!!
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/02/arias-jodi-caroling-competition-jail
Isn't it horrible? This is how casey anthony would have been, I think, had she been found guilty.
It irks me that sociopaths adapt so well to jail/prison. It's nothing to them. Just a new venue for their con jobs and b.s..
Just wanted to bump up the link again for any who may have missed it earlier and are wanting a play by play of all opening statements by DA and DT as well as any/all testimony..
click on the link and read from the bottom of the page up..it begins at 12:30pm PT and is still continually updating all the way to the present time..it will refresh every few mins to give you the up to the minute testimony that is time stamped as well..and this is supposed to continue each day for the entire duration of the trial...excellent for any who are interested in getting to the heart of statements and testimony taking place each day in the courtroom..also you will find no shortage of photos taken and posted throughout the course of op statements and testimony(photos of defendant, all attys, each witness on the stand, as well as shots of the family whose emotions obviously are outpouring at times regarding specific graphic and/or disturbing testimony and of photos that are being introduced into evidence and displayed in open court)
**again reminder scrolll all the way to the bottom of the page to begin reading from the bottom of the page up, it begins at 12:30pm PT..
http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/01/02/live-blog-jodi-arias-opening-statements
Thank you so much! That's so cool for those of us who couldn't follow live!! Thanks!!!!
And just heard on HLN that 2 weeks before the murder, Jodi called cops saying her home had been broken into and her grandfathers' gun was stolen. The gun used during the murder was never found. If I were on the jury, that would be premeditation to me!
Exactly. And apparently the police in California found her robbery story fishy.
I think what I am trying to say, but obviously failed, is that ALL first degree premeditated murder is evil, regardless of whether someone is stabbed, shot, bludgeoned, strangled...the method doesn't lessen the impact and one family doesn't have a better time of it than another because of how it happened. So that's not what constitutes a DP case to me.
To me factors that I consider for a DP case are: prior crimes, # of victims, age of victims, circumstances, mitigating/aggravating factors, just to name a few.
This murder deserves LWOP. The reason I personally don't find it to rise to the level of a DP case is because:
1. No prior felony convictions before this crime
2. 1 person (an adult) killed, no others killed or injured, and no children were killed)
3. This is a crime of passion (i.e. an intimate relationship between killer and victim, in which something went very wrong and the killer turned to murder). However, IF a child (born or unborn) had been involved in addition to the adult killed, that would push it into a DP level for me.
For a case to be a death penalty case, I'd need to see
- more than 1 victim and/or
- other felonies (kidnapping, sexual assault, etc) and/or
- crime against a child
Examples of cases that rise to DP level for me: Petit family murders, serial killer murders like Bundy, Danielle Van Dam (victim 7 yrs old, kidnapped and murdered), Christian/Newsome, Laci Peterson & unborn full-term son, Tate/LaBianca murders. These are the "worst of the worst" type crimes in which the DP is a proper sentence and in which the killer is not mentally incapacitated or insane.
You get to decide what constitutes a DP case for yourself. Just because a state goes after the DP doesn't mean it will work and in some cases it can be a more difficult trial for the state. In this case, for me, it's not a DP case regardless of what the State of AZ is attempting. And note I'm not saying this case isn't heinous (it is) or terrible (obviously it is) or that the family isn't devastated (obviously they are), it's where I draw the lines as someone who does believe in the DP, but does not believe every single murder requires that sentence.
ETA: This case reminds me a bit of the Susan Wright case from TX, which was not a DP case in a state that is extremely pro-DP. Total overkill of the victim (male) by his intimate partner (his wife), she claimed she was abused, but stabbed him 190+ times while he was tied to their bed and then semi-buried him in an outdoor patio area . She called it "self-defense." The jury said otherwise.
I understand what you're saying. I have similar feelings.
But let me clarify. When we talk about crimes of passion in the context of the "passion" being a mitigating factor, we are not talking about the cold-blooded and calculating stalking and premeditated murder of a romantic partner, ex romantic partner or imagined romantic partner. We are talking about a sudden, passionate fury that renders the murderer somewhat (or seemingly) out of control, or filled with a crazy rage.
That kind of scenario goes hand in hand with catching a partner in the act of cheating or catching someone abusing one's child. That sort of thing.
It is clear, at least to me, that this woman carefully planned the murder or Travis Alexander. There is no "passion" involved in that. I think that's why many feel this is definitely a death penalty case and I sympathize with that position as well.