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IF this were Joe Smooshe And Mary Smooshe and this was reported in the papers and everything happened so quickly ie death Friday Autopsy Monday Cremated Tuesday and the person belonged to any cult be it scientology or JW's or any other cult type one that dictates what you can and can not do, and there was a cloud over them I guarantee that the people here (and elswehwere) would be picking it to pieces and bring up all types of scenarios
But because its a celeb that we all love people are in protective mode....
I bet if it was Britney Spears people wouldn't be saying half of the things here. I bet she would be ripped to pieces.....
It does seem that there is a bias because of who it is.
Personally I believe that they are devastated parents who would most definitely be churning up inside about decisions that they made or didn't make
LIKE ANY OTHER PARENT.
It is a fact that John T and Family were heavily into Scientology
It is a Fact that Scientology has questionable beliefs and practices
But it is ONLY speculation that one has anything to do with the other or with Jetts Death
Speculation
Now this is a thread about a boy who died at 16 yrs of age - a tragedy in itself. Yes he is a famous persons son and so its going to get media attention and gossip and rumour attached to it
But I think it would be better served discussing the pros and cons of Scientology in another thread.
That way it separates the emotion of this young boys death from the subject
JMO
Personally I believe that they are devastated parents who would most definitely be churning up inside about decisions that they made or didn't make
LIKE ANY OTHER PARENT.
I totally agree with everything you've stated here. For one thing, the Travolta family is very well respected and I believe it should stay that way. This is just a complete tragedy no matter what way you look at it.
I agree. there was a point in my son's care where I had to choose between some very nasty drugs and possible seizures. I chose seizures for 15 years. They have come a long way with anti-convulsants, but unfortunately all drugs do not work the same, if at all, on all patients. It is a very tough road.
Fortunately Lamictal, which is one of the best drugs around, works well for my son, but I know people right on this board that it does not work on at all.
Kawasaki disease is totally seperate from Jett having grand mal seizures. Jett was on medication and it did not help. It caused him more harm, than good. Please educate yourself as Christian Scientology DO allow prescribed medications. Jett was in the utmost care of two nannies, a baby monitor and around parents nearly at all time. Please do not judge. This family is grieving. And yes...epilepsy can be life threatning. I am the parent coordinator for parents of children with seizure disorders and have been for over 18 years. I cannot tell you how many children and young adults have died from situations that they have been in due to a seizure...at the same time, I know of two who died during the seizure due to status epileptus. Fact is, my own son encountered status epileptus twice in which he was induced into a brain coma to stop his brain from seizing.
Lamictal is a great new drug, ITA! It is saving lives and not just the lives of people with seizure disorders as you are well aware!
I have been choosing to keep my mouth shut on this issue because my brother is a member of the "Church of Scientology" (as the long term posters here are aware), the issues discussed just get me too riled up and I'm bound to get myself banned. I do a well enough job of that in threads related to mental illness. But I do want to say this- these people (followers of LRH), as mis-guided and neglectful as they may seem to be to outsiders, honestly believe what they are taught within this organization. They honestly believe they are doing right by their family, their society, in helping to make the world a better place for the future generations.
My brother was madly in love with his wife, they had a 3 month old baby- he would have done anything in his power to help her get well from cancer but when Scientology told them absolutely no cancer treatment, they were both in agreement on how to move forward, no cancer treatment.
Anyway- I don't know.
Lamictal is the best drug around and those that can use it with results are extremely lucky.Lamictal is a great new drug, ITA! It is saving lives and not just the lives of people with seizure disorders as you are well aware!
I have been choosing to keep my mouth shut on this issue because my brother is a member of the "Church of Scientology" (as the long term posters here are aware), the issues discussed just get me too riled up and I'm bound to get myself banned. I do a well enough job of that in threads related to mental illness. But I do want to say this- these people (followers of LRH), as mis-guided and neglectful as they may seem to be to outsiders, honestly believe what they are taught within this organization. They honestly believe they are doing right by their family, their society, in helping to make the world a better place for the future generations.
My brother was madly in love with his wife, they had a 3 month old baby- he would have done anything in his power to help her get well from cancer but when Scientology told them absolutely no cancer treatment, they were both in agreement on how to move forward, no cancer treatment.
Anyway- I don't know.
Just to clarify- "Christian Scientology" is a non-entity. If you are thinking of Christian Science, it is not the same thing as Scientology.
Lamictal is the best drug around and those that can use it with results are extremely lucky.
Don't get riled up OLG. there is nothing to indicate that this boy did not get the best of care. Treating a chronic illness that is not necessarily life threatening is certainly open to different methodology and it is definitely not a one size fits all situation.
Sure with hindsight being 20-20 and all it is easy for all of us to say what WE would have done. but there is not a person on this board that has the intimate details about his problems or how they were managed.
I would challenge anyone here to tell me from a distance with no inside knowledge of my son's condition how I should have treated him. Sorry, I did my own research, interviewed different doctors and followed my own mind and instinct as to what his care would be as a youngster. Many doctors were opposed to my care plan and guess what? they were all wrong
Lamictal and Keppra is the combo my son is on, life saving drugs. I'm so thankful Sam was treated when new improved drugs have been available. Intially he was treated with phenobarb, a freaking nightmare. His at the time nuero told us we had no choice, thank goodness for the epilepsy foundation who sent us to doctors that were up to speed. Epilepsy sucks.Lamictal is the best drug around and those that can use it with results are extremely lucky.
Don't get riled up OLG. there is nothing to indicate that this boy did not get the best of care. Treating a chronic illness that is not necessarily life threatening is certainly open to different methodology and it is definitely not a one size fits all situation.
Sure with hindsight being 20-20 and all it is easy for all of us to say what WE would have done. but there is not a person on this board that has the intimate details about his problems or how they were managed.
I would challenge anyone here to tell me from a distance with no inside knowledge of my son's condition how I should have treated him. Sorry, I did my own research, interviewed different doctors and followed my own mind and instinct as to what his care would be as a youngster. Many doctors were opposed to my care plan and guess what? they were all wrong
Sorry, I did my own research, interviewed different doctors and followed my own mind and instinct as to what his care would be as a youngster. Many doctors were opposed to my care plan and guess what? they were all wrong
Lamictal is the best drug around and those that can use it with results are extremely lucky.
Don't get riled up OLG. there is nothing to indicate that this boy did not get the best of care. Treating a chronic illness that is not necessarily life threatening is certainly open to different methodology and it is definitely not a one size fits all situation.
Sure with hindsight being 20-20 and all it is easy for all of us to say what WE would have done. but there is not a person on this board that has the intimate details about his problems or how they were managed.
I would challenge anyone here to tell me from a distance with no inside knowledge of my son's condition how I should have treated him. Sorry, I did my own research, interviewed different doctors and followed my own mind and instinct as to what his care would be as a youngster. Many doctors were opposed to my care plan and guess what? they were all wrong
Lamictal is the best drug around and those that can use it with results are extremely lucky.
Don't get riled up OLG. there is nothing to indicate that this boy did not get the best of care. Treating a chronic illness that is not necessarily life threatening is certainly open to different methodology and it is definitely not a one size fits all situation.
Sure with hindsight being 20-20 and all it is easy for all of us to say what WE would have done. but there is not a person on this board that has the intimate details about his problems or how they were managed.
I would challenge anyone here to tell me from a distance with no inside knowledge of my son's condition how I should have treated him. Sorry, I did my own research, interviewed different doctors and followed my own mind and instinct as to what his care would be as a youngster. Many doctors were opposed to my care plan and guess what? they were all wrong
I know- My point really is that as adults we make the best decisons we can for our children and sometimes that includes keeping them off of medications that may cause more extreme issues with their body.
I myself am made entirely of flaws, stitched together with good intentions.
And you know that because.....?? I see a family with lots of money, who has a child die in questionable circumstances, yet goes to the trouble to have an autopsy.....and yet, they choose to have it done in the Bahamas and cremate his remains before any reputable ME might take a look....give me a break.
Free choice is one thing, but endagering a child's life due to religious beliefs is not a perogative. Burying a child in the Catholic Church has nothing to do with this, this is about a so-called Church which advances so-called scientific practises which have no basis in science and the people who practice this so-called religion are brainwashed into believing this nonsense. Scientology does not believe in free choice...it's their way or the highway, but if you have an ample bank balance they'll do whatever it takes to keep you in the fold. Do you think Nicole Kidman's free choice is to not see her adopted children?
Have you heard of Operation Freakout or Operation Snow White? Go to youtube and find out what Paulette Cooper and Scott Mayer had to say during the Clearwater hearings.
A couple of good quotes that caught my attention.