Josh Duggar charged with Receipt/Possession Child Sexual Abuse Material, 29 April 2021 #1

[Ontario Mom]

His expression in his mug shot just infuriates me.
Even IF he's completely innocent, where's the heartache, sadness, compassion, regret or remorse for the entire situation? For the children victims in the images first and foremost, and also for his own children and wife and the shame and ridicule he brings onto them for even being associated with something so unthinkable? The look on his smug face says he couldn't care less about any of that.

jmo

 

[MsMarple]

His expression in his mug shot just infuriates me.
Even IF he's completely innocent, where's the heartache, sadness, compassion, regret or remorse for the entire situation? For the children victims in the images first and foremost, and also for his own children and wife and the shame and ridicule he brings onto them for even being associated with something so unthinkable? The look on his smug face says he couldn't care less about any of that.

jmo

IMO Josh is just plain broken and his own sick desires trump any empathy he may have for those who love him.

The paper trail of his sexual abuse of minors began in 2002. I find it difficult to believe that during the years between then and May 2019 he didn't download any child sexual abuse material. Or worse. MOO.

 

[Inthedetails]

IMO living in a warehouse isn’t cause for disparagement, so I’d want to be careful. Often, people have to do the best with what comes their way.
But I do have several points...
You’d think one of that well-paid family (one of them seems even to own a helicopter) would just buy a house for Josh’s family to live in. Those children need a more healthy place to live.
If you’re spending all that money to refurbish a warehouse, you might as well spend it on re-habbing a fixer-upper. Family and nearby friends, “good Christians” presumably, shouldn’t have any hesitation in throwing in their sweat and handy skills for a few Saturdays. Where are they?
What the warehouse living situation does signify to me is poor choices. Where are the children getting educated? Why would you have 2 (or more) pregnancies when the only living situation for the babies is a warehouse? What are you doing to get out of warehouse living?

I suspect the appeal of the fixed-up warehouse rather than fixing up a house, is that the warehouse is on daddy's property where Josh's behavior could be monitored by his parents. If that was the idea, though, it sure didn't work - just like it has never worked.

jmo

 

[Lusitana]

I suspect the appeal of the fixed-up warehouse rather than fixing up a house, is that the warehouse is on daddy's property where Josh's behavior could be monitored by his parents. If that was the idea, though, it sure didn't work - just like it has never worked.

jmo

That never worked for Josh. They had to literally look his sisters in their bedroom at night so he wouldn't molest them. Being monitored by mommy and daddy never worked for him. I just hope he never molested anyone else, I believe if he did it would be public by now but still, he just creeps me out and he will never stop being a predator, it freaks me out that he's allowed around so many kids.

 

[kai]

It freaks me out that any parent would allow their child to be around Josh Duggar, or any person with a similar history of SA.

It's NOT ok.

 

[Knox]

Here is a more direct link:
Josh and Anna Duggar appear to live in Jim Bob's WAREHOUSE with their SIX kids

I'm not twisted up about Josh, Anna, & kids living in the family warehouse. For the kids sake, I'm happy they have a home. Many don't have even that, and frankly it does look nicely designed and decorated. Not like they are living in the midst of oil, grease, and car parts.

The part I'm conflicted about is the potential situation this puts Anna in. As I understand it, Josh doesn't have a job and likely due to his previous molestation charges and now the current charges- will have difficulty getting one in the future- outside of something provided by the family. Anna could always leave and take the children, there are resources available to her outside of her own family or friends. She could stand on her own if she choose too, even with seven kids. But I can totally see how it might be difficult for her to see past her current life situation to a new future. Maybe it's just what I see portrayed on TV and in the media. But it seems like the whole family is secular and very insulated. You don't see a lot of interaction with the outside world, but that may just be as I said, a feature of public personas and publicity stunts to keep the show going?

The idea of Family was God's masterplan, designed to among other things (I won't detail my finer religious beliefs), protect and raise children into successful adults-perpetuating a beautiful generational cycle. Not keep women in total submission and under the control of men.

I've wondered if Josh himself was abused as a child. But realize that's not necessarily part of a predator's make-up. If you are raised in a culture where women are considered subservient to their husbands, must be available to them at all times sexually (Michelle's blog post), produce children non-stop, never putting their own needs on the list of importance. It's not to much of a stretch to see how that could get twisted into a perverted mindset. Or maybe it's more simple than that, he's just evil and doesn't resist perverted urges. His siblings don't seem to suffer from the same issues, so there's that.

Sorry for the long overly personal post, I strayed a bit in this one.

 

[Knox]

I don’t think it’s necessarily accurate to call a smart or fortuitous property purchase/sale “greedy.” Unrealistic, maybe, if that property hasn’t yet sold. Did I just defend Jim Bob?!

I can't remember the details, but when I read that I thought maybe Jim Bob took a loss on the sale intentionally. Then Anna's LLC sold it at a profit because she likely has different tax repercussions. Who knows, it's all a little sketchy and underscores one more reason she is likely to stick with Josh and the Duggar family. She's entrenched in their business plans and is looking for financial security she couldn't likely obtain on her own.

 

[Scrapper18]

I don’t even know what to say to this. My heart breaks for his wife and kids. Many prayers for them.

 

[SeekingJana]

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These are not guys looking at "artsy" nude photos or pretty images of kids. Viewers are being entertained and satisfied looking at GRAPHIC VIOLENCE AND ABUSE of children. The viewers are pleasured by seeing children in the process of being sexually ASSAULTED, images and even ideas that healthy people would find shocking, ugly, and upsetting at minimum.

I'm 100% sure there are indeed foreign origins of this garbage, but it's being made in our country too, imo.

This stuff is dangerous and heartbreaking. I hope the investigation is more than just sending Josh to jail but also nabs whatever distribution ring he was hooked into.

jmo

I agree, the control, abuse, pain inflicted, and often, re-use of the same children who were stolen, or enticed, or whose parents sold them to a violent criminal network for abuse and profit is almost too vast, deep, disturbing and foreign to most of us to comprehend. We read the words, but as most of us will never view this type of disturbing criminal imagery, we are aware and have compassion for the children but still lack the shock of total awareness because it is, thankfully, illegal to view.

I am sure many N. American children have been abused and greatly hurt during the production of illegal and violent imaging. The most tragic aspect is that the children are often killed or moved into prostitution when they have been abused in enough images to be identifiable.

Totally agree that the networking of production and distribution has to be cut off for there to be any hope to end this form of extreme CSE.

 

[BeckyF]

I can't remember the details, but when I read that I thought maybe Jim Bob took a loss on the sale intentionally. Then Anna's LLC sold it at a profit because she likely has different tax repercussions. Who knows, it's all a little sketchy and underscores one more reason she is likely to stick with Josh and the Duggar family. She's entrenched in their business plans and is looking for financial security she couldn't likely obtain on her own.

Good point. She definitely needs the financial security.

 

[SBops]

Good point. She definitely needs the financial security.

No amount of financial security is worth the wellbeing of children, her own and the children being exploited for his sick mind.

 

[BeckyF]

No amount of financial security is worth the wellbeing of children, her own and the children being exploited for his sick mind.

Of course not. Not saying she should live with him. He will be in prison if he is convicted. But she does need financial security. If she is involved in business dealings with The Duggar family she is somewhat trapped at the present time. IMO

 

[RickshawFan]

They had a house but they sold it. Then, Jim Bob bought a house and sold it to an LLC in Anna's name. Then Anna put it on the market for WAY more than the purchase price. So either they're just greedy (which is likely, Jim Bob is alllllll about money) or they have another reason for living in the family compound...like the family wanted Anna and the kids close in case anything happened.

I still think that's weird... I think it's strange even they handed over title when J & A's lives were so precarious. They could put it in a trust? They could have put a big 'ol trailer or modular home in the compound... But they have grandkids living in a windowless warehouse? This whole housing thing seems fishy to me...

 

[RickshawFan]

I suspect the appeal of the fixed-up warehouse rather than fixing up a house, is that the warehouse is on daddy's property where Josh's behavior could be monitored by his parents. If that was the idea, though, it sure didn't work - just like it has never worked.

jmo

They didn't even put windows in it when they re-habbed it.... What's that about?

 

[RickshawFan]

I agree, the control, abuse, pain inflicted, and often, re-use of the same children who were stolen, or enticed, or whose parents sold them to a violent criminal network for abuse and profit is almost too vast, deep, disturbing and foreign to most of us to comprehend. We read the words, but as most of us will never view this type of disturbing criminal imagery, we are aware and have compassion for the children but still lack the shock of total awareness because it is, thankfully, illegal to view.

I am sure many N. American children have been abused and greatly hurt during the production of illegal and violent imaging. The most tragic aspect is that the children are often killed or moved into prostitution when they have been abused in enough images to be identifiable.

Totally agree that the networking of production and distribution has to be cut off for there to be any hope to end this form of extreme CSE.

Does a person have to pay for accessing this kind of devil's work? Where would Josh be getting the money to participate?

 

[Inthedetails]

Does a person have to pay for accessing this kind of devil's work? Where would Josh be getting the money to participate?

Very good questions. He's got a big family to support - is his wife clipping coupons and making meals stretch while he spends money on pictures of kids being abused?

jmo

 

[Doghairrules]

Very good questions. He's got a big family to support - is his wife clipping coupons and making meals stretch while he spends money on pictures of kids being abused?

jmo

Where has he been getting any money since the car dealership closed?

Anna could leave and have a book ghost written and be set for a while. There are ways out of the viper pit if you look.

 

[everybodhi]

Does a person have to pay for accessing this kind of devil's work? Where would Josh be getting the money to participate?

Probably out of the same pocket drug addicted parents get their drug money.
Priorities can be skewed for an addict.

 

[Sun]

They didn't even put windows in it when they re-habbed it.... What's that about?

Hard to know the reason. I wonder if the tax assessor knew of the improvements and that a family was living in that machine shed.

 

[SBops]

Where has he been getting any money since the car dealership closed?

Anna could leave and have a book ghost written and be set for a while. There are ways out of the viper pit if you look.

Wouldnt she be eligible for a single parent benefit and rental assistance? Seven children should attract a good amount.