Not if it was an anonymous donation.
Not following, if he gave them away anonymously then where does the fact that he gave them away become a red flag that should have been picked up on?
Not if it was an anonymous donation.
Not following, if he gave them away anonymously then where does the fact that he gave them away become a red flag that should have been picked up on?
Who told the press he donated to Goodwill?
Did you read my post? #10. The toys were an example I gave but then again, people give away toys to charities all the time. I think you might be misunderstanding my point. The warning signs of suicide may have been there based on some of the very things listed on that link Pensfan posted but if you go through the list, it won't give you warning signs for murder.
Proof is in the pudding. They let him have "supervised" visitation only because of that disgusting and disturbing photo and ordered a psych sex analysis. They did NOT recognize the warning signs of suicide nor murder and that's my point. Even the so called experts didn't!
Josh Powell donated boxes of toys and books to a Goodwill charity over the weekend before he murdered his two children in a fire, police said Monday.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/...s-toys-other-items-before-murdering-them.html
So somebody must have told police?
Does anyone know what the picture was?
Does anyone know what the picture was?
Details of the photo that was presented at the custody hearing at the link.
http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=138831984&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10212
Here's more warning signs for domestic violence and therefore, a potential for a domestic homicide:His wife has gone missing, has she not? Couldn't that be considered a warning?
In this case the suicide signs would have been enough. It was a murder - suicide, they occurred together.
However, there were signs of murder as well. Why get ride of the boys things if they would be here to use them?
If a person appears to be planning a suicide
Already has a missing wife
Has a father in jail
Has lost custody of his children to people he despises
Has given away his children's toys and books
and is getting a visitation with their children in a couple of hours...
It would probably be a good idea to prevent that visitation.
If someone had spotted the signs early enough... and stopped the visitation, that would have been enough to prevent it.
It doesn't appear that those who had time to react, knew enough to know that they needed to. Those who knew, didn't have time.
Whether Josh carried out his suicide or not, wouldn't have mattered... if they had kept the kids away.
They might have even figured out his plan without him carrying it out.
Of course they probably would have tried to prevent Josh from killing himself, but their priority would have been the kids.
His wife has gone missing, has she not? Couldn't that be considered a warning?
I don't think anyone is disputing his suicide warnings, it's the murders that we need to recognize. Suicide warnings signs are there. How about murder?
In this case the suicide signs would have been enough. It was a murder - suicide, they occurred together.
However, there were signs of murder as well. Why get ride of the boys things if they would be here to use them?
If a person appears to be planning a suicide
Already has a missing wife
Has a father in jail
Has lost custody of his children to people he despises
Has given away his children's toys and books
and is getting a visitation with their children in a couple of hours...
It would probably be a good idea to prevent that visitation.
If someone had spotted the signs early enough... and stopped the visitation, that would have been enough to prevent it.
It doesn't appear that those who had time to react, knew enough to know that they needed to. Those who knew, didn't have time.
Whether Josh carried out his suicide or not, wouldn't have mattered... if they had kept the kids away.
They might have even figured out his plan without him carrying it out.
Of course they probably would have tried to prevent Josh from killing himself, but their priority would have been the kids.
I think part of the problem is that there are different departments that probably don't communicate with each other.
There's social services, the court system and the police.
I am curious to know why it is known that Josh donated the boy's toys to charity?
Here is the first responders going to the house.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/raw-audio-recordings-first-responders-powell-home-/nHW9t/
Did you read my post? #10. The toys were an example I gave but then again, people give away toys to charities all the time. I think you might be misunderstanding my point. The warning signs of suicide may have been there based on some of the very things listed on that link Pensfan posted but if you go through the list, it won't give you warning signs for murder.
Proof is in the pudding. They let him have "supervised" visitation only because of that disgusting and disturbing photo and ordered a psych sex analysis. They did NOT recognize the warning signs of suicide nor murder and that's my point. Even the so called experts didn't!
Here is the first responders going to the house.
http://www.kirotv.com/news/news/crime-law/raw-audio-recordings-first-responders-powell-home-/nHW9t/
I have wondered if Josh Powell ever knew his sons were talking about mommy being in the trunk. He probably felt betrayed by them. I am sure he had coached them many times before Susan's parents got custody. It is strange to me that the boys were reluctant to go, but ran ahead. They are heroes on my eyes because of that. The worker would have been killed too. I have no doubt they noticed daddy was acting different and they tried to run. But, they were up against a monster.
I believe so much in the afterlife, that it comforts me knowing they will never feel pain or confusion. They are with their mother now.
I do believe this could have been avoided as other murders of children. The courts need to stop worrying so much about keeping families together, and worry about the safety of the children. We as a nation need to stand up and say NO MORE!!!