Knowing all you know today about this case who do you think really killed JonBenet?

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Or that none of the sources were the killer..........

Your speculation is not fact.

That is speculation..

There is no way to know until we match the DNA.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I couldn't agree more. Yesterday I merely asked for a link that TOS says should have been in the post to begin with and I'm jumped on by multiple people to just Google it myself. It gets worse if anyone posts against the majority viewpoint. I don't blame any IDI's for sitting on the sideline on this forum.

Perhaps there just aren't many that buy what Lacy and the Ramsey spin team is selling?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Or that none of the sources were the killer..........

Your speculation is not fact.

Yep, IMO it's likely all the unsourced touch DNA cells are merely artifacts.

 

[Linda7NJ]

That is speculation..

There is no way to know until we match the DNA.

Exactly the point. It certainly doesn't exclude any Ramsey.

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

Exactly the point. It certainly doesn't exclude any Ramsey.

Yes. The DNA is not a Match for the R's and excludes them.

 

[RANCH]

Perhaps there just aren't many that buy what Lacy and the Ramsey spin team is selling?

It appears to me that you're saying that anyone who is an IDI is buying into the Ramsey "spin team" and are not looking at the facts. That is the type of comment that is keeping some from posting IMO.

 

[FrayedKnot]

Yes. The DNA is not a Match for the R's and excludes them.

No! No it doesn't. It excludes no one.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Was just thinking.....I would love to sit down and have a really long conversation with Fleet White!

 

[2 percent]

We don't know who they are. They point is that it does not have to mean they are all killers but we only need one. And since we have two sources of the same DNA that gives that source more probability.

In actuality when there is a murder during the commission of a felony (like kidnapping), all participants are equally guilty. So if you theorize all of the touch DNA people are part of the same kidnapping-murder than any or all could be convicted of murder.

Now I return you to your regularly scheduled discussion....

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

No! No it doesn't. It excludes no one.

Yes it does. It was not a MATCH for any of the R's. It excludes them.

There are some things one can spin to look one way or another.. This is not one of them.

 

[RANCH]

Yes it does. It was not a MATCH for any of the R's. It excludes them.

There are some things one can spin to look one way or another.. This is not one of them.

I think that someones not understanding how DNA works. :floorlaugh:

 

[ScarlettScarpetta]

In actuality when there is a murder during the commission of a felony (like kidnapping), all participants are equally guilty. So if you theorize all of the touch DNA people are part of the same kidnapping-murder than any or all could be convicted of murder.

Now I return you to your regularly scheduled discussion....

I don't believe 6 people killed JBR, Not really even though the possibility is there the probability is not.. However the probability that the one source of DNA in two different places makes it more probable that that person was indeed involved

 

[Linda7NJ]

In actuality when there is a murder during the commission of a felony (like kidnapping), all participants are equally guilty. So if you theorize all of the touch DNA people are part of the same kidnapping-murder than any or all could be convicted of murder.

Now I return you to your regularly scheduled discussion....

So... There are 9 possible suspects....according to the DNA evidence. 3 Ramsey's and 6 unknown. All with built in DNA "proof" one of the other 8 did it.

Lovely.

 

[2 percent]

So funny, No one thinks the fibers are secondary transfer, No one thinks things that lead to the R's in there scenario is secondary transfer..
But this must be???

IT is being used to solve cases, until we know who this DNA belongs to, It is every indication that someone was there that was an unknown intruder.

I think people here do think some of the fibers are transfer, especially the small amounts and the fibers in likely casual transfer areas

 

[FrayedKnot]

Was just thinking.....I would love to sit down and have a really long conversation with Fleet White!

I would as well!

Fleet and his wife were cut out of the Ramsey's life immediately after the murder. My belief is that Fleet knew things were hinky that morning and darn sure KNEW JBR's body was not in that WC (not the loo) when he searched earlier.

Fleet knows that John moved her body there. After the fact.

The Whites were treated terribly by the Ramseys when they came to ATL for the memorial.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Whatever happened to that fingernail DNA that Wood claimed matched the co-mingled with JonBenet's blood panty DNA?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I think people here do think some of the fibers are transfer, especially the small amounts and the fibers in likely casual transfer areas

I do believe the Patsy red sweater fibers in the paint tray and on the sticky side of the duct tape and tied into the rope knot speaks volumes!

 

[FrayedKnot]

I do believe the Patsy red sweater fibers in the paint tray and on the sticky side of the duct tape and tied into the rope knot speaks volumes!

I KNOW! Red sweater fibers between JBR's mouth and the tape? But of course, that isn't relevant like random skin flake touch DNA. :facepalm:

And I guess the intruders were entering the house for months prior to sexually penetrate JBR. Because that makes perfect sense.

 

[2 percent]

I would as well!

Fleet and his wife were cut out of the Ramsey's life immediately after the murder. My belief is that Fleet knew things were hinky that morning and darn sure KNEW JBR's body was not in that WC (not the loo) when he searched earlier.

Fleet knows that John moved her body there. After the fact.

The Whites were treated terribly by the Ramseys when they came to ATL for the memorial.

Where do you think she was?

 

[Linda7NJ]

I KNOW! Red sweater fibers between JBR's mouth and the tape? But of course, that isn't relevant like random skin flake touch DNA. :facepalm:

And I guess the intruders were entering the house for months prior to sexually penetrate JBR. Because that makes perfect sense.

I forgot to add those jacket fibers of hers were also found on the white blanket! Wood wouldn't let her answer any of those questions.... Nor the questions about fibers from Johns shirt found in JonBenet's vaginal area!