Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #16 *Arrest*

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Didn't EG say she suffered from endometriosis? I wonder of the Dr. prescribed pain killers to her.

I've had endometriosis since my early 20's. Several laparoscopic surgeries, hormone therapies, and 4 miscarriages before finally having my son. Yes, endo is painful and I'm not downplaying it by any means, because I have been there. I do, however, doubt that endo has been an issue for EG over the last 2 years or over any two year time span while having the older children. First of all, no period no endo - so she would not have had symptoms while pregnant, and while pregnant the endo basically goes into remission and it takes about a year for symptoms to return. Also, having kids is like the best remedy for endo and she has 3 kids, so...... I hear whining...
 
Is there any possible way the LL may have seen someone else's child in the window or did he get a good enough look at him to positively identify him as Lucas?

Probably only the LL could answer that. Just wondering if maybe she had someone else there at the house that had a kid or kids his size and maybe LL assumed it was Lucas.
 
She is lazy. Everything she does will be in the easiest way possible

I'm glad you said this. I have been wondering if she cleaned a lot or if she might have been cleaning on Friday because she was expecting company.

JMO
 
JMO
Is there any possible way the LL may have seen someone else's child in the window or did he get a good enough look at him to positively identify him as Lucas?

Probably only the LL could answer that. Just wondering if maybe she had someone else there at the house that had a kid or kids his size and maybe LL assumed it was Lucas.
JMO I don’t think so. Our VI’s have multiple times clarified that it was definitely Lucas. I would think since it was the last time he was seen, LE would not have taken that sighting lightly. I believe they would have verified to a certainty it was him. I would assume the LL would have had to sign an affidavit or some sort of statement. I really think it’s safe to trust this as fact from out VI’s. Again, JMO.
 
JMO I don’t think so. Our VI’s have multiple times clarified that it was definitely Lucas. I would think since it was the last time he was seen, LE would not have taken that sighting lightly. I believe they would have verified to a certainty it was him. I would assume the LL would have had to sign an affidavit or some sort of statement. I really think it’s safe to trust this as fact from out VI’s. Again, JMO.

Good Point. You are right that this would have been the first thing that LE would want to nail down. They probably questioned the LL extensively over this.
 
This Valentine's Day stuff is interesting.

And sent him off to his cousins...is she trying to say he spent time with cousins from his maternal side? Is she not throwing her own cousins under the bus like I'd previously thought? :thinking:

Codependency & general dysfunction is a hellova drug, kids. Run with that.

I keep coming back to several things VI's said that stuck in my brain for some reason (and I have no idea how to go back and find those to bring them here) Gravel..... I think FLA said in regards to "help and/or someone else knowing"....someone else who would have a lot to lose Now the V-day information... Who else was booked into jail with EG the same day? (do I remember this one right?) I go back and forth between she had help and she didn't. If she had help, I think baby LH is much farther away (1+ hours). If she didn't, I think he's close so her "story" would add up (he ran off and died in the open by himself) I'm in the camp she had help. How they haven't found that other person or if they have, that they haven't broken is crazy to me. I think EG knows what happened to Lucas, but I'm not positive she knows exactly where he was placed. And when you look up the intersection her phone pinged at on Google maps, apartments are right there. Could she have been at those apartments with mystery person? Picked up OG to go and went to smoke a few more bowls and eat? That person went back home with her and witnessed what happened from there and was her accomplice? V-Day...where was LH for this day and how does it factor in? We know LH was seen after this by LL, but where could he have been for that day and how does it play into this? I think the bigger picture is EG LIED to JH and included JO in this "story". Why??? Jealousy? Easy story JH would believe and possibly not even question but when he did she was busted? Who could her help be for someone who had something to lose? A lover? A girlfriend who has kids also? A drug friend/dealer? So many pieces of the puzzle I just can't fit together. AGHHHHH. Now that JO has been "brought" into this with the lie, why was EG aiming at her? Trying to pin the blame? Was this actually thought out in advance vs her just losing her **** and killing him?

*waves arms and muffled moans like toddler doing the potty dance*

You might be onto Some Things.

I think finding out just how street smart she is might be important. We need to learn how she thinks. Her interests, that being science and numbers might hold a clue. I wonder how much she studied about forensics. What is this thing with numbers with EG? Is it superstitious, is it obsessive compulsive? What is it?

Numbers: loose association with new age evolution/ascension galactic 'gateway' (11:11, 1:11, 3:33, etc)- popular meme or habit to show 'belonging' to such a group as 'Indigo Children' (old souls, save the world, etc). Easy to fish for followers and support in that scene, they like to spin wheels but go nowhere (don't do durgs, kids!).

EG's understanding of LE and their associated sciences is meager, and gleaned from low level criminals at best. She lacked connections or basic comprehension into this world. Knowing a word or sharing a tweet is NOT evidence of education or understanding on the wide, wild world of Forensics.
 
She is lazy. Everything she does will be in the easiest way possible

Water.


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She is lazy. Everything she does will be in the easiest way possible

This leads me back to the dumpster. Get rid of him. Put him in something drop in dumpster. Thinking no one will tbink any thing about the smell or gathering of animals at landfill . Sorry. Not a good picture. Im thinking for her that would be te fastest way to throw any guilt she might have in the trash
 
I believe JO was an easy excuse that JH would accept without question. She didn’t know her lies would come out within a few days. I’m not so sure Lucas wasn’t at home on VD Day. My gut tells me that she was partying w someone that night & Friday night (probably many other nights too) either home or at their place.

Since her suspected drug of choice had never been identified, I’m going to throw out HGB or another upper that keeps you going til the wee hours. I think she was dosing LH with a sleeping pill, Xanax, anything that would knock him out for hours. She didn’t want him to see what she was doing and more importantly, didn’t want her party night spoiled by a “needy little boy who didn’t talk right.” I sense she may have lashed out & abused him because he was damaged in her eyes. I don’t believe his death was planned, rather she literally overdosed him and panicked.


There families have 1000 acre ranches in the Flint Hills, sand pits, lake homes, all very private where nobody would think to look. This person would keep their mouth shut no because if the truth came out they would be ruined. Just my random thoughts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

GHB is a short term downer/dissociative (not like the famed Salvia yet similar to observe). An hour or 2 of limited cognitive and physical ability can be expected without subsequent 'doses'.

Those who imbibe it are soon in a waking dream state and unable to coordinate their movements and reality well, if at all. It requires the user to drink water or possibly die of dehydration, depending upon dosage and frequency of dose or what else they were eating, drinking, ingesting at the time.

I will reiterate a tale of a toddler I'd brought up in the last thread: Mother and father divorced & locked into bizarre embitterment where this child became tool of pre-existing revenge and power dynamics. Mother had a few prescriptions for downers, was very volatile to men in her life, it fell to younger sisters and father to provide stability to the preschool aged boy.
The middle daughter was primary guardian who partied hard; she loved to make an event of including the little boy giving him 'bong hits' & her circle loved bringing substances for this pastime.
There was a number of occasions when the child would not wake up... because his mother left out a pill or he'd looked for one to maintain the feeling of the 'party' where everyone had given him attention and played with him :( A lot of freaking out in the family to hide this from the grandfather and father; many excuses of 'gone to the park, tired himself out' as he lay comatose on the sofa or floor (as related by youngest teen in home).
Let this cautionary tale guide the process of deduction at hand.


Weighing the worth of freedom based on choices and actions of a moment suggests perhaps, a longer habit of eroding such social graces; being very much in a certain corner, reliant upon those who depend upon them and they in turn require... 'Birds of a feather'.
Perhaps this 'someone' is not in possession of such luxury as to afford a high end attorney to make their behaviour go away this time; or that the gamble can remove many ersources in one sweep.


I am curious as to when was the last time JH spoke with Lucas and how often they talked ,
Lucas could have talked with his father Friday night with EG right there, and not breathed the least hint of what was afoot. Abused children know what is at stake, in their very bones. They don't dare risk hinting at the slightest thing as long as their abuser is in the same building/block as they are.
Take that for what it is worth... I'm coming from a long history of personal experience, and over 530 foster siblings so this covers a wide range of experiences in my eyes.

and her backstory to her alleged nursing degree. ik it was verified that she is not a nurse but where did she even get the idea to post this on linkedin? did she start nursing school? apply and get rejected? aspire to be one? are one of her parents a nurse? aka is there some exposure to medicine where she is "good" at doses, for example drugging a child to keep them quiet regularly and going too far one time....

https://www.linkedin.com/in/thepositivesideag

We have seen that those who are put into positions of caring for the elderly, disabled, and very young may label themselves as 'nurses' rather than personal care attendants.

Similarly, a wide range of knowledge of pharmaceuticals, substances and their interactions may be excused or accepted by carrying the 'Nurse' title.
I'm not claiming EG traded in prescriptions or dealt with those who did, however I am also not claiming that she didn't know Some One indisposed (or connection of such), who could've used the extra cash and may have paid her services in some on the side (or that the liberty was taken as granted).

Prescription drugs are often used as a currency or to curry favor, whereas illicit substances not so much.
 
Numbers: loose association with new age evolution/ascension galactic 'gateway' (11:11, 1:11, 3:33, etc)- popular meme or habit to show 'belonging' to such a group as 'Indigo Children' (old souls, save the world, etc). Easy to fish for followers and support in that scene, they like to spin wheels but go nowhere (don't do durgs, kids!).

EG's understanding of LE and their associated sciences is meager, and gleaned from low level criminals at best. She lacked connections or basic comprehension into this world. Knowing a word or sharing a tweet is NOT evidence of education or understanding on the wide, wild world of Forensics.
RSBM for focus

That's a most insightful observation and well put! Glass is a sprinter, not a marathon runner. IMO she's already losing ground and it won't be long before LE outpaces her, if they haven't already. MOO.
 
It's Friday night, day after Valentines.

Holiday weekend start.

Dark out, cold, new moon.

Who wants to be near the nightlife or main transit routes, risking being routinely stopped for 'drunk checks' with a body to dispose of?

One whom is used to playing bad times off as normal knows how to maneuver at all hours. Especially if they are listening to the tales of others who've done it wrong and want outlets to air their grievances.

Cleaning Home.

Going Home.

Not all roads to hell are paved with bad intentions.

Likewise, not all mining is WHERE the quarries are.

Consider the process & products of this (all ye riddlers).
 
That is the last time anyone saw Lucas up until the 16th at 5:30- he was probably stuck in that house alone a lot of the time is what I’m thinking


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Actually, and if someone already corrected this I apologize, but another neighbor seen Lucas with Emily and Lucas's "little brother" on the 14th or 15th of Feb. Lucas was supposed to come over one day to play with her dog.

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/03/...-saw-missing-boy-two-days-before-he-vanished/
 
She is lazy. Everything she does will be in the easiest way possible

This is a huge clue. She is lazy. How does a girl that's lazy get by, she finds a man to take care of her but how does she do this? She creates a fake background like nursing school and anything else to make her seem more appealing to a man with a child like JH. When we think of nurse we think of someone taking care of someone and that's what JH may have wanted/needed. But how does she explain not having custody of her own boys. Probably lots of lies covered by more lies. She needed someone like JH to take care of her but when her lies started unravelling, so did her world. If this is true and she felt she was losing control over him, I could see her setting her sights on another fish as a backup plan. Then the sighting of Lucas alone and everything unravelled. JMO of course.
 
Water.


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I think water too. Not running water but a pond or a lake. I don't think she would have dug a grave for him. Maybe even just covered him up with brush. But I'm more convinced of water.
 
....snipped for focus....

I am also not claiming that she didn't know Some One indisposed (or connection of such), who could've used the extra cash and may have paid her services in some on the side (or that the liberty was taken as granted).

Prescription drugs are often used as a currency or to curry favor, whereas illicit substances not so much.

JMO
I keep flip flopping on whether she could have gotten help.

If JH was away on work and she was all alone and did not have much money but perhaps wanted to "party" because weekend was here
then one option she had was to trade a "service" for something else.
Another person may have gotten dragged into this in that way.

Or I could also see her going into a rage when she got back from OG and then making a desperate phone call to someone very close to her who felt sorry enough for her to help out.

Or her being so cold and callous to just take care of things by herself.

Thats one of the troubles with this case is there are a lot of possibilities.

I think the good news here is I am willing to bet LE has narrowed down those possibilities. If there was anyone else invovled then I suspect LE has a good idea who they are and probably already paid them a visit.

It seems that LE is in the waiting game now and maybe putting pressure on that we are not aware of. One person we know LE is putting pressure on and that is the person sitting in jail right now.
 
This is a huge clue. She is lazy. How does a girl that's lazy get by, she finds a man to take care of her but how does she do this? She creates a fake background like nursing school and anything else to make her seem more appealing to a man with a child like JH. When we think of nurse we think of someone taking care of someone and that's what JH may have wanted/needed. But how does she explain not having custody of her own boys. Probably lots of lies covered by more lies. She needed someone like JH to take care of her but when her lies started unravelling, so did her world. If this is true and she felt she was losing control over him, I could see her setting her sights on another fish as a backup plan. Then the sighting of Lucas alone and everything unravelled. JMO of course.

"We Look For In Others, What We Wish To Be (Seen) In Ourselves"

Familiar patterns also extend back into time as far as one feels like following it.
 
I think water too. Not running water but a pond or a lake. I don't think she would have dug a grave for him. Maybe even just covered him up with brush. But I'm more convinced of water.
We're in drought so digging would have been difficult.

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This leads me back to the dumpster. Get rid of him. Put him in something drop in dumpster. Thinking no one will tbink any thing about the smell or gathering of animals at landfill . Sorry. Not a good picture. Im thinking for her that would be te fastest way to throw any guilt she might have in the trash
My theory too.

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Actually, and if someone already corrected this I apologize, but another neighbor seen Lucas with Emily and Lucas's "little brother" on the 14th or 15th of Feb. Lucas was supposed to come over one day to play with her dog.

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/03/...-saw-missing-boy-two-days-before-he-vanished/

Who was this little brother that the neighbor saw?

“He came over with the little brother,”

http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/03/...-saw-missing-boy-two-days-before-he-vanished/
 
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