Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #17 *Arrest*

[Steelslady]

I posted in the last thread that he has even donated to the fund!
Im quite shocked

I'm thinking they set it up to get her out of jail. They only need to raise $5000.00 dollars, from what I have read. I would be very shocked if this was used to help find Lucas.

 

[kkdj]

Regarding EG's current pregnancy, do we think JH knew EG was pregnant as soon as she found out? Do we think that JH believes he is the father?

I wish the media would pick up on the new pregnancy and ask JH some questions about it.

I do think EG told JH as soon as she could. But when did she find out.....in jail? And, I do think JH believes he is the father. To him, they were a family, EG watching his son and daughter, he out earning a living, doing whatever it takes. People have a tendency to see things from their own point of reference, sometimes thru rose colored glasses. He seems to believe her about everything else, why wouldn't he believe her that he is the father, that she never cheated while he was gone?

 

[?mysterian?]

What do we think a PI will bring to the case at this point? This is not a cold case; it's an open and active investigation. One person is already in jail in connection to this case. We have no reason to think that LE has stopped looking for Lucas. Texas Equusearch has said they plan to return to Wichita if needed.I'm not against the idea of a PI, but I don't understand why now is the time to hire one. LE isn't going to be able to share much at this point since the investigation is open and active.

Jumping off your post, there's no guarantee that any money raised will actually be used for the stated purpose, right? The account holder can withdraw/use funds at any time for any purpose as I understand it. There's no accountability. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

 

[kkdj]

Jumping off your post, there's no guarantee that any money raised will actually be used for the stated purpose, right? The account holder can withdraw/use funds at any time for any purpose as I understand it. There's no accountability. If I'm wrong, please correct me.

I think you're right.
Like FLA said, a reputable person/organization should be handling this.
IMO there needs to be accountability and transparency. I'm actually amazed when people invest in a account with no evidence of it being used for it's stated purpose.
The true intent of setting up a is meant for good purposes, but with no accountability some will take advantage. My sil did so. I know her so I was suspicious from the get go, but others gave her money, foolishly. Sure enough she used it for reasons other than stated.
Personally I like the idea of hiring a PI. Why not try everything to find Lucas? This PI co. has a set up for missing children, to aid in the expenses. It would seem to me if the set up to find Lucas is for Lucas, the PI could set it up specifically for Lucas, separate from the other he has on his website for missing children pool. Hope that makes sense.

 

[Mistree]

I'm thinking they set it up to get her out of jail. They only need to raise $5000.00 dollars, from what I have read. I would be very shocked if this was used to help find Lucas.

I agree, don’t trust the whole situation at all.

 

[kkdj]

I was embezzled from years ago by a family member. I was shocked! A friend told me the temptation became too great and the access was there to embezzle.
That's how I feel about this for Lucas, set up by non family members and whose extended family is suspected of theft of funds in this very same case! The temptation might be too great.

 

[liltexans]

Just an observation, based on the defensive tone I'm picking up on from statements JH has made to the media, but I get the feeling JH and his friends spend more time worrying about what others think of him/them than they do about focusing on their supposed goal of raising money to find Lucas. I'm sure it is hard to be criticized by others, especially if you did not disappear your own child, but these people are strangers on the internet. Why waste time worrying about what random people think or say? It's not a good look for him to be so defensive. Any and all ideas and help from anyone should be welcomed. Instead of getting defensive if someone doesn't agree with his approach or is questioning things, why not be courteous and sincerely ask the person questioning how you can help alleviate their skepticism?

JH and friends are not asking for $100 or even $1,000. They are currently asking for $28,000. That is A LOT of money. I don't understand why JH seems shocked that people just want some transparency and for the to be properly set up, per 's own guidelines.

 

[MsJosie]

I'm thinking they set it up to get her out of jail. They only need to raise $5000.00 dollars, from what I have read. I would be very shocked if this was used to help find Lucas.

I agree and posted that earlier...way way for them to get monies to get her released. I cannot see birth mom and common law wife/fiancé/babysitter/step mom what ever yo call her...I cannot see them uniting to work together. Father seems to,talk for the females, like they cannot talk for themselves.

Father is either in such denial that the common law wife killed his son or father is part of it. His demeanor is so off.JMOO

 

[MsJosie]

Just an observation, based on the defensive tone I'm picking up on from statements JH has made to the media, but I get the feeling JH and his friends spend more time worrying about what others think of him/them than they do about focusing on their supposed goal of raising money to find Lucas. I'm sure it is hard to be criticized by others, especially if you did not disappear your own child, but these people are strangers on the internet. Why waste time worrying about what random people think or say? It's not a good look for him to be so defensive. Any and all ideas and help from anyone should be welcomed. Instead of getting defensive if someone doesn't agree with his approach or is questioning things, why not be courteous and sincerely ask the person questioning how you can help alleviate their skepticism?

JH and friends are not asking for $100 or even $1,000. They are currently asking for $28,000. That is A LOT of money. I don't understand why JH seems shocked that people just want some transparency and for the to be properly set up, per 's own guidelines.

The firm that is hired or may be hired to look only for Lucas....would like them to say exactly how much money they want upfront to start the investigation. So far it’s father saying they need $28,000.00....but what does the investigating firm say?

 

[MsJosie]

Can anything be reported to in regards to this strange monetary request? Even if it just alerts them to what possibly be happening?

 

[Kuyluc2764]

I'm sorry but I just can't get past the thought, that somebody is hoping to raise bail money by Monday the 16th.

$5,000 bail and the rest to flee to Mexico...

 

[momrids6]

Want to donate? How about to the police department? or Texas Equusearch?

 

[?mysterian?]

I think you're right.Like FLA said, a reputable person/organization should be handling this. IMO there needs to be accountability and transparency. I'm actually amazed when people invest in a account with no evidence of it being used for it's stated purpose.The true intent of setting up a is meant for good purposes, but with no accountability some will take advantage. My sil did so. I know her so I was suspicious from the get go, but others gave her money, foolishly. Sure enough she used it for reasons other than stated. Personally I like the idea of hiring a PI. Why not try everything to find Lucas? This PI co. has a set up for missing children, to aid in the expenses. It would seem to me if the set up to find Lucas is for Lucas, the PI could set it up specifically for Lucas, separate from the other he has on his website for missing children pool. Hope that makes sense.

Yeah, there are plenty of sketchy accounts out there. From what I've seen of Klein (Deorr Kunz, Michael Chambers), I've been impressed. IMO, it seems like maybe Klein has been contacted by these people associated with JH, but there's uncertainty regarding Klein actually being hired if/when the money is raised. I agree with others, this could've been handled much better, if that's the intended outcome. Whatev, there's been enough sketchiness and doubt about JH, IMO, and he ain't gettin' a dime from me. IMO, JH put EG before LH, to LH's detriment. I've been following LH's threads from the start and have been impressed at how not only the WS "community" has come together for LH, but how the locals have banded together to search and locate him, and even WSers far away have contributed their skills and knowledge to help. Your efforts are admired and appreciated. To LH's family and friends: you are in my thoughts and prayers. I hope LH is found as soon as possible, and that you find some measure of peace.

 

[Mistree]

Just out of curiosity, is the house EG and JH are/ we’re renting still occupied or is it considered a crime scene hold ?

 

[liltexans]

The firm that is hired or may be hired to look only for Lucas....would like them to say exactly how much money they want upfront to start the investigation. So far it’s father saying they need $28,000.00....but what does the investigating firm say?

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208470554.html

Philip Klein, president of Klein Investigations and Consulting, on Tuesday confirmed that his hiring is dependent on $25,000 being raised to pay him. That amount is necessary to cover transportation and lodging costs for a team of investigators, Klein said. He said he would cover separate investigative costs. His business is in Nederland, in southeast Texas.

 

[liltexans]

Can anything be reported to in regards to this strange monetary request? Even if it just alerts them to what possibly be happening?

Yes, it has been reported by WS members and WS Admin. Perhaps others have reported it as well.

 

[interestedincases]

Just an observation, based on the defensive tone I'm picking up on from statements JH has made to the media, but I get the feeling JH and his friends spend more time worrying about what others think of him/them than they do about focusing on their supposed goal of raising money to find Lucas. I'm sure it is hard to be criticized by others, especially if you did not disappear your own child, but these people are strangers on the internet. Why waste time worrying about what random people think or say? It's not a good look for him to be so defensive. Any and all ideas and help from anyone should be welcomed. Instead of getting defensive if someone doesn't agree with his approach or is questioning things, why not be courteous and sincerely ask the person questioning how you can help alleviate their skepticism?

JH and friends are not asking for $100 or even $1,000. They are currently asking for $28,000. That is A LOT of money. I don't understand why JH seems shocked that people just want some transparency and for the to be properly set up, per 's own guidelines.

Exactly the feeling I get. You can clearly tell he has his few "groupies" defending him but they are doing so in a childish manner. If they were honest and professional, they would respond only to those serious questions with a legitimate answer with FACTS. Instead it's "wth" and "what do you know". Yep, makes me want to contribute a TON of money (rolling my eyes as hard as possible here).


JH's decisions clearly are NOT the best and the latest article/comments clearly confirm that. I would love a PI to get involved, if only to have a second/third/fourth set of eyes. I can't imagine they wouldn't unconver much more than PD at this point, but if people are willing to put up the $ to hire them, then I'm all for it. I'm NOT all for it with "groupies" running it who clearly have a horrible track record and comments/screenshots on the KAKE FB post clearly show that. (I swear my eyes are going to stick from rolling them so much these days)

 

[GigTu]

I'm thinking they set it up to get her out of jail. They only need to raise $5000.00 dollars, from what I have read. I would be very shocked if this was used to help find Lucas.

100% agreed.

 

[GigTu]

$5,000 bail and the rest to flee to Mexico...

Mexico would be more dangerous. So yeah, give up our little Luke and then by all means, head on out to Mexico with your chump change. I'm not bitter. jmo

 

[newmember]

trying to think what JHs next steps are and see if we can get ahead of him. i'll start with this speculation: if he is aware of EGs abuse toward Lucas and knows or has a strong feeling EG is responsible for Lucas' disappearance, why start and standby a that if successful, hires a respected PI? (i realize another way to speculate is he is in denial about EG but right now, im going to think through the theory he's aware)

1. he knows this has no chance at raising $28k but its a way to look good in the public eye, which others have stated and I agree, he seems to care about given his defensive nature.

2. a more sinister scenario, he knows this has no chance at raising $28k but once it reaches EGs bail (and maybe some extra) he bails her out....and they leave town.....

3. if it raises the $28k, he doesnt hire the PI and he believes there won't be any consequences on /to donators for not using the money as stated (which maybe there arent or maybe its hard to prove).

maybe a combo of 1&2?