Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #22 *Arrest*

[Niner]

Hey all!

Great reporting here from yesterday day in court!

:gthanks: to ALL!!

from article in post #936 post by ScarlettLin

According to the detective, Glass said she went to the garage to smoke marijuana around 3 to 3:30 p.m., got hungry and remembered that Lucas’ father had given her a gift card for Olive Garden.

Phone records show she was at the restaurant from 4:53 to 5:43 p.m. After she got home from the restaurant, she made dinner for Lucas. She gave both children a bath, put them to bed and had a video chat with Hernandez, Lucas’ father.

So she says she got hungry about 3 or 3:30pm, but waits until almost 5pm - about an hour and half - to eat? I would think she would have left at about 3:45pm to go eat. Or does her phone not have gps to track "when" she left the house? Just seems a very long time to wait if you are hungry at about 3pm....

:dunno:


Also I noticed that the title thread has ACTIVE SEARCH on it - is there an actual "active" search going on? I haven't seen any posts regarding the searching - or else I missed them.

TIA! :wave:

I do wonder if they were able to track delivery guy Matt down.

I thought his name was Mike ??

 

[Niner]

Wednesday, May 16th:
*Trial Continues (Day 2) (@ 9:15am CT) – KS – Lucas Allen Hernandez (5) (missing Feb. 17, 2018; not found yet) – Emily Ann-Marie Glass (26) (stepmom) charged (2/26/18) with 1 count of child endangerment (of 1 year old, for 2/16/18, day before Lucas was reported missing; suspected of drug use). There are 2 other charges of Child Endangerment with warrant drawn on booking page; bond stays at $50K, per Judge on 3/14/18.
Might be delayed re Ruling on Motion to Suppress on 5/18/18. Judge ruled on 5/13/18 :denied: Motion to Suppress. 5/18/18 hearing canceled.
Originally arrested (2/21/18) for 2 counts of child endangerment.
Judge O’Connor said he will leave up to another judge who is handing a child-in-need-of-care case involving the 1-year-old whether Glass can have contact with that child. 4/27/18: The stepmother and caregiver of a 5-year-old Wichita boy missing for more than two months lost custody of her 1-year-old daughter on Friday. Sedgwick County juvenile court Judge Kevin Smith found that Emily Glass’ daughter is, under state law, a “child in need of care.” The designation puts the girl in the custody of the secretary for the Kansas Department for Children and Families. The agency will decide where the child will live. The girl had already been placed in police protective custody.
5/16/18: Trial will resume today. Attorneys in the trial are expected to make closing arguments Wednesday morning before the six-person jury begins to consider a verdict.


Did not know there is just a 6 person jury....

 

[chihuahua]

I think she’s ready and willing to roll the dice- just like the current trial
MOO


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Obviously so true.
She bites.
Many of my friends are not on WS and they are following this case and keep asking me to explain how child services (CPS or whatever it's called since my sleepy brain can't get it correct right now) let all of this slip thru the cracks.
I get their frustration and it's really hard to explain.
OT to anyone who wants a brief chuckle at what is sadly 3:30am here right now:
My new roommate is great. She is the first person who has been living here except for me in almost 10 years.
She is the organization queen. The bomb.
But she organized my somewhat cluttered and transient-lifestyle so well, I cannot find my phone charger.
None of the many of them.
[I know she had them last cause her fancy IPhone broke down and she had to use my Samsung]:laughing:
Now I took a call from a great veteran friend of mine with cancer and my phone was dying so it's charging in my car...
Meanwhile back to dear Lucas.
He is out there waiting to be found.
I know JO and JH and many others have accepted the fact that he is dead. I get it.
But I always hold out hope when there is no hope.
Just saying,
Chi:floating::rose:

 

[JulesinOz]

I wonder how much Zofran was remaining in the bottle/package/container?

Yes! That part created a huge number of questions in my mind. Who prescribed, was it prescribed for Lucas, what was the diagnosis of his seemingly long-term upset tummy, how much, how often, how long, and on and on and on.

Poor, sweet, Lucas.

 

[margarita25]

Yes! That part created a huge number of questions in my mind. Who prescribed, was it prescribed for Lucas, what was the diagnosis of his seemingly long-term upset tummy, how much, how often, how long, and on and on and on.

Poor, sweet, Lucas.

This might, or might not be, part of the possible poisoning type vibe I was getting, moo...

 

[DakotaMayi]

Exactly she's writing the script. Wish we could have Lucas's account, imo it would be very different than the stage she is setting.

Agreed. If only MH was a little older.


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[dianaelaine59]

I know I've said this before and it's so incredibly cheesy, but the mental pictures I have of our boys Up There - Lucas & Evan & now little Tony. It's Superhero week in Heaven and their little capes are flying as they run around shrieking with laughter.

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NOT cheesy at ALL. .....


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[DakotaMayi]

Obviously so true.
She bites.
Many of my friends are not on WS and they are following this case and keep asking me to explain how child services (CPS or whatever it's called since my sleepy brain can't get it correct right now) let all of this slip thru the cracks.
I get their frustration and it's really hard to explain.
OT to anyone who wants a brief chuckle at what is sadly 3:30am here right now:
My new roommate is great. She is the first person who has been living here except for me in almost 10 years.
She is the organization queen. The bomb.
But she organized my somewhat cluttered and transient-lifestyle so well, I cannot find my phone charger.
None of the many of them.
[I know she had them last cause her fancy IPhone broke down and she had to use my Samsung]:laughing:
Now I took a call from a great veteran friend of mine with cancer and my phone was dying so it's charging in my car...
Meanwhile back to dear Lucas.
He is out there waiting to be found.
I know JO and JH and many others have accepted the fact that he is dead. I get it.
But I always hold out hope when there is no hope.
Just saying,
Chi:floating:

Oh, Chi! :giggle:

Mine too. I continue to get the "Lucas text" from friends wondering where the case is at.

So many people waiting on you, little man :luv:

 

[Katharine]

I cannot comment.

I will no longer be sharing any information on here or elsewhere to preserve what we know for the investigation.

I will still be here, though [emoji172]

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FLA and Paddleboard, thank you both so much. You both have been so patient. You have answered the same repeated questions with grace and courtesy. You both are verified insiders which means, you have given us the true facts as much as you can relay. Thank you for sharing what you could.

The last two photos of Lucas with those bruises tugged at my heart. His eyes were so sad and soulful and as if begging to be heard. It's so sad. Bless his little heart.

Take care both of you. Justice for Lucas.

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
Been trying to think where he is again.

I just cannot believe this person at the trial single handedly was able to hide him this good. Makes me think she had to have gotten help or at a minimum got advice from someone about what to do with him.

Or I suppose she could have just gotten extremely lucky and maybe did something simple like using a large metal trash dumpster like has been brought up numerous times.

I am stuck between those two thoughts. Either she has simply been extremely lucky and just dumped him like the trash in either a dumpster or some woods somewhere where he has not yet been found.

Or she got some advice or some other assistance and someone had a good spot in mind for her.

If she did have any help at all I dont think it was Magic Mike. I think any advice or help she may have gotten would have come from someone much closer to her. The ones mentioned before.

The problem is we cant find him and it is so frustrating.

One thing about dumpsters is I really think there should be a better way that LE can limit their potential use for body dumping. Too many cases end up with that possibility.

I had mentioned before that we need a new invention that can be mounted on all trash trucks as a mandatory requirement. This invention would detect decomposition smell and sound an alarm.
Is that idea even feasible?

I am saddened that LH has not been found. This case is so so sad.

 

[chihuahua]

Morning Ana and all....
I also think she had help. And tho I manage to giggle at times, believe me, I HURT so badly for Lucas and FLA and everyone who still loves him...

:thinking:
:moo: I kinda like watching that cow kiss that curious thinking emoji [making coffee for all, green tea for others, all on 3 hours of sleep]
Juggling Chi today before traveling :juggling:

 

[margarita25]

I never in my life used to analyze manholes, or culverts, or other similar things, grates, storm drains, etc, and lately I find myself noticing every one, and analyzing it, strictly as a result of our recent conversations (and when Sherin was found in a culvert...Jessica Ridgeway...ugh can't talk about it). Anyway, I find myself thinking things like, "how easy would it be to pull that lid off?", and "what type of hand injuries might one sustain as result of that?" and "would Lucas fit in a hole that size?", and "where does this particular type of inlet lead?", and "would one smell decomposition from such an enclosed location?"....

Of course I'm out of state and not thinking about these locations specific to my area, but of course Lucas' area.

This all started when the conversations of EG's scratches on her hands came up, so what's that been, a couple weeks or so?

Yesterdays discussion of Flowerbed...digging...woods, that's where I'm back at this morning. Bringing forward kansasjason's post (wow was not expecting so much material for analysis!!):

I wanted to offer some thoughts on the court proceedings today.

Cell phones were confiscated upon entering the courtroom. Media was present and left periodically to do updates. JO was there in the morning and was with someone, but left after the first recess around 10:30. It is most likely that other parties had family members there, but without photographs, positive identification cannot be made at this time.

For the most part, glass looked straight ahead at the witness. She wore black slacks and a black shirt with a gray sweater. She was not wearing glasses and looked healthy.

A WPD officer was the first witness. He essentially testified that he responded to a call at EG's residence on 2/17 because EG called police. He was at the residence for more than an hour. He wore a body camera. He had access to the garage. Pictures of the garage and of EG's daughter were admitted into evidence. There was an area set up in the garage with chairs and an ash tray. He testified that the house was free from clutter and trash, EG's daughter was clothed, clean, and appeared emotionally happy. He does not recall seeing any cannabis or paraphernalia, and would have reported it if he had.

The next witness was a Crime Scene Investigator which helped process the residence. He said that a lot of manpower goes into processing each case. He arrived around 10:30 p.m. and they worked to process the scene all night. He worked until his shift ended around 6:00 a.m. He took 230 photos of the entire residence and created a diagram of the residence. Some relevant photos presented into evidence included those of the backseat of EG's white SUV showing a car seat and a booster seat buckled in side by side. He testified he "processed" the vehicle. He also testified that an occupant of the home provided a written waiver to process the house. Defense showed that there were food and beverages in the fridge and the house was relatively clean.

The next witness was a homicide detective. He was called to the house around 10:30 p.m. He interviewed EG four times. They are all recorded. The dates are 2/18, 2/19, 2/20, and 2/21. EG requested the second interview and brought up cannabis use.

Detectives obtained all of EG's phone records from her carrier. The limited pings offered into testimony showed the phone near Olive Garden at Rock and Central at 4:53 p.m. and 5:43 p.m. EG's written statement was read into evidence. It is summarized, in short hand form, as follows:

Friday, woke up. Changed the kids. Took LH's pullup off and put on underwear. Gave them pop tarts and fruit. Put on cartoons for them while I did laundry. Lounged with the kids and watched cartoons. Smoked a cigarette. Gave daughter a bottle. Did more laundry.

Around noon, gave kids sphagetti-o's and PBJ. LH's tummy hurt. Gave him Zofran and put him in his room to watch a movie. He asked to. Cleaned up after lunch. Checked on LH every 20-30 minutes. Did more laundry. Took a break from cleaning My hands hurt from working in the flower bed. I smoked pot in the garage and got hungry.

I remembered JH gave me a gift card and I decided to eat quick at Olive Garden. Took daughter. Left LH because he fell asleep. Landlord called at 5:30. Said he needed in the house by six to fix the sewer lines. I had been smelling weird things. I told him I was almost home. On my way home he called again.

At home, I made Lucas dinner and gave the kids baths. I put them to bed and talked to JH by video chat.

Then the seven minutes of interviews were played. Audio was low and hard to hear. Of note, her weed gets brought to her by a man named Mike. She does not know his last name.

She has cracks on her hands and has for years. She then rolled up her sleeves to show the detectives her arms also. She hurt her hands digging in the garden. Also, it was her first time going to OG from her new house and she does not remember the route she took.

After showing the video, the judge had a bench conference with the attorneys for several minutes and put white noise on the speakers so they could not be heard. During the bench conference, EG looked over multiple times at three people sitting in the courtroom -- a man and woman about 55, and a woman about 35 -- and she gave a thumbs up with a look on her face like she was asking a question. Then, they broke for lunch.

The events after lunch have been reported.

(Eta: Really weird, Cheryl DeBoer just popped in my mind for some reason, her death was ruled a suicide (strangest circumstances ever, the method...don't want to get too o/t, she was found in a culvert. Her son was here. It was VERY HARD.)

*****

Eta: "Smelling things in the sewer lines"....
Would this type of awareness lead away from such a disposal? Would she refrain from storm sewers, etc for the same reason?

*****

This REALLY sticks out like a sore thumb to me:

"Took a break from cleaning My hands hurt from working in the flower bed."

And

"She has cracks on her hands and has for years. She then rolled up her sleeves to show the detectives her arms also. She hurt her hands digging in the garden"

****

Thanks everyone for the updates; I don't have much more to add at this time that you guys haven't already mentioned...it's so much to process..

 

[Horror]

Obviously so true.
She bites.
Many of my friends are not on WS and they are following this case and keep asking me to explain how child services (CPS or whatever it's called since my sleepy brain can't get it correct right now) let all of this slip thru the cracks.
I get their frustration and it's really hard to explain.
OT to anyone who wants a brief chuckle at what is sadly 3:30am here right now:
My new roommate is great. She is the first person who has been living here except for me in almost 10 years.
She is the organization queen. The bomb.
But she organized my somewhat cluttered and transient-lifestyle so well, I cannot find my phone charger.
None of the many of them.
[I know she had them last cause her fancy IPhone broke down and she had to use my Samsung]:laughing:
Now I took a call from a great veteran friend of mine with cancer and my phone was dying so it's charging in my car...
Meanwhile back to dear Lucas.
He is out there waiting to be found.
I know JO and JH and many others have accepted the fact that he is dead. I get it.
But I always hold out hope when there is no hope.
Just saying,
Chi:floating::rose:

Chi ❤️ you are a gem !


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[Kamm5]

Hey all!

Great reporting here from yesterday day in court!

:gthanks: to ALL!!

from article in post #936 post by ScarlettLin

According to the detective, Glass said she went to the garage to smoke marijuana around 3 to 3:30 p.m., got hungry and remembered that Lucas’ father had given her a gift card for Olive Garden.

Phone records show she was at the restaurant from 4:53 to 5:43 p.m. After she got home from the restaurant, she made dinner for Lucas. She gave both children a bath, put them to bed and had a video chat with Hernandez, Lucas’ father.

So she says she got hungry about 3 or 3:30pm, but waits until almost 5pm - about an hour and half - to eat? I would think she would have left at about 3:45pm to go eat. Or does her phone not have gps to track "when" she left the house? Just seems a very long time to wait if you are hungry at about 3pm....

:dunno:


Also I noticed that the title thread has ACTIVE SEARCH on it - is there an actual "active" search going on? I haven't seen any posts regarding the searching - or else I missed them.

TIA! :wave:



I thought his name was Mike ??

It is my auto correct must have changed it ... sorry

 

[deedee21]

Who lives in the area? Is Mid-February gardening even a thing?!

I’m an avid gardener. I’ve cleaned up horrendous garden beds. Today I was even tramping in the woods pulling invasive species... wearing a t-shirt and no gloves and guess what.... zero damage to my hands and arms. And I worked hard. And if I’m around the house working with really coarse material, I’ll maybe grab gloves or be extra careful.

My point being, there’s no way she’d willingly get beat up to work in her own yard without being cautious. My money is put on the fact that whatever she was doing that damaged her skin, she did in a rush and because she didn’t have a choice to be careful. Nighttime wouldn’t be on her side either. But because she said “gardening” and I don’t believe her, I do believe she was in the woods/grassland. This eases my dumpster theory anxiety.

Chemicals will cause my skin crack too. I wonder what she was cleaning with... bleach?

Thank you for the excellent court notes. Im feeling good about this. But I’m also really sad that no matter what, Lucas is gone. 

Digging in the garden? Or digging a grave?
Shes a BS artist.
A distraction.

 

[DakotaMayi]

Morning Ana and all....
I also think she had help. And tho I manage to giggle at times, believe me, I HURT so badly for Lucas and FLA and everyone who still loves him...

:thinking:
:moo: I kinda like watching that cow kiss that curious thinking emoji [making coffee for all, green tea for others, all on 3 hours of sleep]
Juggling Chi today before traveling :juggling:

Coffee please!

(When I'm up and it's quiet, this forces me into online shopping :hypno: I need to go find something to distract myself. Too tired).

I wonder what today holds for the trial?

 

[DakotaMayi]

I never in my life used to analyze manholes, or culverts, or other similar things, grates, storm drains, etc, and lately I find myself noticing every one, and analyzing it, strictly as a result of our recent conversations (and when Sherin was found in a culvert...Jessica Ridgeway...ugh can't talk about it). Anyway, I find myself thinking things like, "how easy would it be to pull that lid off?", and "what type of hand injuries might one sustain as result of that?" and "would Lucas fit in a hole that size?", and "where does this particular type of inlet lead?", and "would one smell decomposition from such an enclosed location?"....

Of course I'm out of state and not thinking about these locations specific to my area, but of course Lucas' area.

This all started when the conversations of EG's scratches on her hands came up, so what's that been, a couple weeks or so?

Yesterdays discussion of Flowerbed...digging...woods, that's where I'm back at this morning. Bringing forward kansasjason's post (wow was not expecting so much material for analysis!!):





(Eta: Really weird, Cheryl DeBoer just popped in my mind for some reason, her death was ruled a suicide (strangest circumstances ever, the method...don't want to get too o/t, looking for quote re: her location found. Her son was here. It was VERY HARD.)

*****

Eta: "Smelling things in the sewer lines"....
Would this type of awareness lead away from such a disposal? Would she refrain from storm sewers, etc for the same reason?

*****

This REALLY sticks out like a sore thumb to me:

"Took a break from cleaning My hands hurt from working in the flower bed."

And

"She has cracks on her hands and has for years. She then rolled up her sleeves to show the detectives her arms also. She hurt her hands digging in the garden"

****

Thanks everyone for the updates; I don't have much more to add at this time that you guys haven't already mentioned...it's so much to process..

Adding... unless I'm blind, she never actually mentions working on the flower bed but does mention that her hands hurt from it? The only thing that was relevant?

(I'm hoping she didn't now I just said this :blushing: lol)

 

[Horror]

Wednesday, May 16th:
*Trial Continues (Day 2) (@ 9:15am CT) – KS – Lucas Allen Hernandez (5) (missing Feb. 17, 2018; not found yet) – Emily Ann-Marie Glass (26) (stepmom) charged (2/26/18) with 1 count of child endangerment (of 1 year old, for 2/16/18, day before Lucas was reported missing; suspected of drug use). There are 2 other charges of Child Endangerment with warrant drawn on booking page; bond stays at $50K, per Judge on 3/14/18.
Might be delayed re Ruling on Motion to Suppress on 5/18/18. Judge ruled on 5/13/18 :denied: Motion to Suppress. 5/18/18 hearing canceled.
Originally arrested (2/21/18) for 2 counts of child endangerment.
Judge O’Connor said he will leave up to another judge who is handing a child-in-need-of-care case involving the 1-year-old whether Glass can have contact with that child. 4/27/18: The stepmother and caregiver of a 5-year-old Wichita boy missing for more than two months lost custody of her 1-year-old daughter on Friday. Sedgwick County juvenile court Judge Kevin Smith found that Emily Glass’ daughter is, under state law, a “child in need of care.” The designation puts the girl in the custody of the secretary for the Kansas Department for Children and Families. The agency will decide where the child will live. The girl had already been placed in police protective custody.
5/16/18: Trial will resume today. Attorneys in the trial are expected to make closing arguments Wednesday morning before the six-person jury begins to consider a verdict.


Did not know there is just a 6 person jury....

Thanks Niner. Always awesome.

Just learnt another thing - 6 person jury.


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[Kamm5]

Kansasjason.. any thoughts on the jury how they were reacting or the demographics of the jury

 

[WillenFan21]

Marking spot. Hope she’s found guilty!