Found Deceased Ks - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #33

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deedee21 said:
Speaking of hot car deaths.
A female officer was arrested for leaving her child in a hot car.
CPS returned the child the next day.
She did it again. The child died.
Her ex husband was not contacted the first time it happened and the police expunged her arrest and conviction.

She was suppose to go on trial April 2018.
I think the trial was posponed.
Can't find any updates.

Her name is Cassie Barker.
From Mississippi.
She left her daughter in a hot patrol car for 5 hrs.
Parked outside her bosses house.
Claims they were just TALKING.
Her history would suggest differently.

Can any of you guys find a update.
I can't find anything.
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I’m in Louisiana so Cassie Barker’s case made our local news. I haven’t found an update, though.
 
Charliegizmo49 said:
Boy am I asking for trouble here.

Some of us have nearly lost children or have lost children. Even when they are older the pain never subsided when you are the parent.

God isn’t a part of what I’m writing today and that’s difficult for me because I believe in him.

JH spent 2/3 of his time at his job trying to improve their economic situation. He had just moved them into a nice little house. I’m not going into details of everything that goes along with that.

We can’t always control emotions and all the reasons we fall in love. EG was at one time a beautiful woman. She was probably good at relations. I’m not going into that here.

She was also many other things. A drug addict who used long term. A. Violent deceitful woman, that all of us her already know the details so I’m not repeating them.

Did JH know? Most of us think he should have. I think somewhere in his mind he did. But denial is pretty powerful when love passion and sex is involved.

Lucas went missing, and JH made an 11 hour trip home to deal with it. I can’t imagine the thoughts he had in that trip.

He was questioned for hours after arriving home. He had to bring EG back to be questioned by le twice and the second or third time she didn’t return home. She was arrested. I can’t think about the muddled thoughts he must have had then.

Denial again.
JH had come so far working so hard to make a better life for his family.

Yes there was violence and that had never been a part of any relationship before and he spent time avoiding it but at times EG was uncontrollable. There was no reconciliation between their apparent love and passion and the violent Emily that exploded.

Today he knows it might be due to withdrawal. She didn’t use meth when he was home, and he didn’t know she stuffed it into herself as soon as he pulled out if the driveway headed to work in New Mexico.

She was high before he reached the on ramp to the interstate a short distance from home. Headed south he made the transition from father and lover to breadwinner during the drive before him. He was working toward a goal and getting EG boys back into their family. That would make her happy and when she was happy allcif the problems would disappear.


We now know that Lucas was dead. EG had put all the scheming details into place. She had driven him into another county under a different jurisdiction under a bridge and probably in water so he would fade away just as she had planned.

For 96 days EG knew exactly where he was. She listened to JH share all the pain he endured. Pain she was responsible for, pain she inflicted on an entire community.

One cell at a time being carried away by water wind and the elements. She most likely knew that he had no damage to his skeleton. The only part if Lucas she had damaged was soft tissue. My guess was she had researched decomposition on the internet. She had to know how long it would take for any abuse evidence to rot away. And I believe she had one of her drug infested buddies check.

EG s admission to the pi was no mistake. She knew there was not enough left of Lucas to prove anything against her.

She still believed she would get out if this with minimal charges maybe abuse Of a corpse or improper disposal of remains.

In the meantime JH was forced to cope with all the massive devastation of losing all hope for his son. The son who fought just to live. The son he had held in his arms and willed to live for months after he had been born.

There would be no 6th birthday celebration for Lucas. He had been dead for 3 months.

The public sentiment became a daily battle to read and ignore. Men try to be strong but I think JH sought isolation to cope with the hundreds of emotions he had to experience.

Every time he appeared social media lit up. And nothing being posted was kind.

There is no instruction book that gives us guidance to deal with the death of a child, and nothing socially acceptable to mourn the cold hard facts of a lover responsible for the ultimate misery she had caused.

Then EG decided to kill herself and she planned that to the most minute detail as well. His house, his gun and the last image of her, brains blown all over.

Most overwhelming was the undoubted realization JH knew. Lucas died at the hand of a drug addled lover he met, fell deeply in love with, and he brought her into his home.

Reconciling the Emily he believed he knew and trusted with the cold hard conniving murderer of his son is nearly to much to bear.

It has now become a part of his very being, something that comes with each breath. The Self imposed guilt has no bars, and he faces public judgement every time he tries to live a normal life.

The barriers JH lives with are worse than any prison. A jail term would hold a release date. There is no release imposed for Lucas being dead. He is gone and Emily will never share the truth.

No one can help him live normally Lucas is forever gone and even memories tainted by guilt.

My question is has he suffered enough?

Guilty or innocent of knowing EG had abused his son, when us the punishment enough? JH will live with all of this every day he’s alive.

JH is in prison forever.

When is enough enough. ????????
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Oh i agree that he will suffer for the rest of his life with regret. I lost my own son (non violent means) and it was and continues to be devastating. I question myself constantly if I did anything wrong in pregnancy to cause his loss (even though we know I didn’t, it was a freak thing). My life is full of regret with him. And I Know there was nothing I could do, I can’t imagine what guilt and fear he must feel constantly.
 
AlwaysHopeToHelp said:
Oh i agree that he will suffer for the rest of his life with regret. I lost my own son (non violent means) and it was and continues to be devastating. I question myself constantly if I did anything wrong in pregnancy to cause his loss (even though we know I didn’t, it was a freak thing). My life is full of regret with him. And I Know there was nothing I could do, I can’t imagine what guilt and fear he must feel constantly.
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I'm so sorry. I can only imagine.
 
I have been quiet lately. I have caught up on your posts..

I still believe JH has something to do with this...Evidence, no...but feelings yes. I have been stating all along she knew exactly what happened and was threatened to keep her mouth shut.

I wish the family the best moving forward...but don't rule out people in your own backyard...

All statements are IMOO.
 
Steelslady said:
I'm probably one of the cold hearted ones on here. I have no sympathy for a man who turned a blind eye to his son's abuse. He stopped Lucas from seeing or talking to those who truly loved him because they tried to get JH to open his eyes up to the abuse his son was living through day after day.

He pretty much through Jamie under the bus several times. She had a for both him and her to help raise money to help them pay bills, then he insisted she take his name off it after awhile, leaving her to take a lot of criticism for it. Now he's promoting a to help him move and now pay hospital bills, with the help of his mother, who started the originally to help get his daughter back.

Lucas was and always will be, my only concern in this case. As well as the other children involved in EG and JH's life. MH, in my opinion, should be adopted out, far away from this mess her parents made of their lives, costing Lucas his own. She deserves better than this. I know one day she could always look up who her parents are and what happened, but hopefully, by then, she would be a healthy and happy adult and could handle the truth then. Making her stay with family or trying to get custody of her is only going to hurt this poor darling down the road. Kids are cruel, even some family members can be cruel. They will hurt her over and over again for her mother being a child killer while her loving father let it happen.

I don't wish anything bad to JH, but kindly go away with begging for financial help so he can mess up his life even more. People around him are enabling him, this man will never learn to be accountable for his own actions unless the handouts are stopped and he is left to stand on his own two feet.

Cripes, he cared more about Emily being homeless than his son being left under a bridge. Strange coincidence, if you ask me, that he just so happened to go home that same night she killed herself. Whatever. What is done is done. No sense in dwelling on this anymore. I will check to see what the DA has to say, but I doubt we're going to learn anything new, if at all. Emily is dead, and the truth died with her.
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Steels, you know I have the utmost respect for your well thought out intelligent opinions. And I understand and appreciate each point you’ve made.

I hope we can agree to plain and simply agree to disagree re this one.

Some folks posting here could be my friends in real life. And I have learned to respect opinions other than my own.

Your reasoning is solid and outlined better than most. I hope you and I can continue to debate, point out excellent facts to be considered. We are on opposing sides this time. And I will always read respect, seriously consider facts and even add to my own thoughts and opinion contained in your posts.

It’s been my attitude for years that two people who respect each other with opposing opinion create thought and a little conflict. Conflict, in respectful doses is a very good thing in a debate.

Thank you. I read each of your posts and it’s an honor to be included here.
 
Charliegizmo49 said:
Steels, you know I have the utmost respect for your well thought out intelligent opinions. And I understand and appreciate each point you’ve made.

I hope we can agree to plain and simply agree to disagree re this one.

Some folks posting here could be my friends in real life. And I have learned to respect opinions other than my own.

Your reasoning is solid and outlined better than most. I hope you and I can continue to debate, point out excellent facts to be considered. We are on opposing sides this time. And I will always read respect, seriously consider facts and even add to my own thoughts and opinion contained in your posts.

It’s been my attitude for years that two people who respect each other with opposing opinion create thought and a little conflict. Conflict, in respectful doses is a very good thing in a debate.

Thank you. I read each of your posts and it’s an honor to be included here.
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I respect you as well, Charlie. I appreciate what you bring here at WS. Many times, we have been on the same side, so to speak. Regardless, I respect your well thought out opinions and awesome presentation of facts. Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated.
 
Steelslady said:
I'm probably one of the cold hearted ones on here. I have no sympathy for a man who turned a blind eye to his son's abuse. He stopped Lucas from seeing or talking to those who truly loved him because they tried to get JH to open his eyes up to the abuse his son was living through day after day.

He pretty much through Jamie under the bus several times. She had a for both him and her to help raise money to help them pay bills, then he insisted she take his name off it after awhile, leaving her to take a lot of criticism for it. Now he's promoting a to help him move and now pay hospital bills, with the help of his mother, who started the originally to help get his daughter back.

Lucas was and always will be, my only concern in this case. As well as the other children involved in EG and JH's life. MH, in my opinion, should be adopted out, far away from this mess her parents made of their lives, costing Lucas his own. She deserves better than this. I know one day she could always look up who her parents are and what happened, but hopefully, by then, she would be a healthy and happy adult and could handle the truth then. Making her stay with family or trying to get custody of her is only going to hurt this poor darling down the road. Kids are cruel, even some family members can be cruel. They will hurt her over and over again for her mother being a child killer while her loving father let it happen.

I don't wish anything bad to JH, but kindly go away with begging for financial help so he can mess up his life even more. People around him are enabling him, this man will never learn to be accountable for his own actions unless the handouts are stopped and he is left to stand on his own two feet.

Cripes, he cared more about Emily being homeless than his son being left under a bridge. Strange coincidence, if you ask me, that he just so happened to go home that same night she killed herself. Whatever. What is done is done. No sense in dwelling on this anymore. I will check to see what the DA has to say, but I doubt we're going to learn anything new, if at all. Emily is dead, and the truth died with her.
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Couldn't agree more. Keep MH away from him. It's her one and only chance.
 
motheroffour said:
The article doesn’t state the school didn’t report it though. They only said they could not say one way or another due to state law.
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The DCF did not receive a report from Beech Elementary School or the school district about the nine bruises and abrasions documented by a school nurse.
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motheroffour said:
The article doesn’t state the school didn’t report it though. They only said they could not say one way or another due to state law.
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The DCF did not receive a report from Beech Elementary School or the school district about the nine bruises and abrasions documented by a school nurse, according to the timeline. The nurse noticed the bruises — across his face and other parts of his body — about a month before Lucas disappeared. The Wichita school district said that it followed the law involving Lucas but won’t say whether it reported any concerns about Lucas to the DCF or Wichita police.

Read more here: For most of his short life, Lucas Hernandez was on child protection system's radar

The way I read it they did not receive anything
 
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