LeAnna (Mom) #1

[DeDee]

So far there is no proof that we know of that he actually met someone in person and had a sexual encounter. (maybe, but yecch)...certainly no one has come out of the cyber world to boast about it (lol) Sexting is considered to be cheating by (my guess) MOST people, but others see it as an internet adventure. We don't know how Leanna defines "cheating". We also don't know if she was aware of RH's sexting, although, as someone somewhere on these labrynthine SP ? threads said she had an account @wifeofroscoe which sort of looks like she was onto one of his screen names. Maybe she did her homework and knew that it was at least a cyber adventure.........or more than that JMO

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As the transcript gn~grsnap posted indicates, Det Stoddard himself spoke to the then 16yo now 17yo sexter. He also located one of the other ladies. That leaves four more, just from that one day, on June 18.

Let's get real for a minute. JRH was sexting. He wasn't chatting about the ingredients he liked on a pizza. There is only one reason to send a pic of his private erection and receive pics of *advertiser censored*. Excitement. Pleasure. Thrill. Release. Ross himself wrote that sex is for procreation even though it does feel good. I propose that JRH had at least six orgasms between the hours of nine thirty and three o'clock on June 18. What did he do with it? Did he keep a roll of paper towels at his desk? Or dash to the men's room frequently?

Using addiction distraction as a defense is not going to work. The jury would not want an alcoholic inside the office working and drinking top shelf Whiskey while his child suffered a miserable hot car death anymore than they will accept a man's sexual addiction keeping him preoccupied to the point of forgetting he was a father with a child in the hot parking lot.

 

[Ruby]

I know this will offend everyone, but I can't help it! I REALLY feel sorry for Leanna to be discussed in the way she is being discussed. Her private life and affairs are being dragged through the mud, she is basically being cyber-bullied. She has lost a child, her husband is in jail for killing her child, she's had to give up her job, move away and go into hiding. Isn't there any compassion left for someone who has been put into a situation no one would ever want to be put into, presumably through no action of her own?

People are free to say what they want/need to say. I just want to say I have sympathy for her...and I really hope she stays off the internet for a very long time.

She could be considered a victim in this situation.
She has not been named a suspect, or a person of interest - at least that I know of?

I know it's only normal/procedural for police to investigate closest involved first, which is usually parents (missing person cases).
This case, the only ones to begin with are the parents. RH left him in the car. Did he do it intentionally and if so was LH involved?

I would not wish her situation on anyone, even an enemy. Especially if it turns out she had nothing to do with this.
If it turns out she was involved, I still would not wish her situation on anyone, who wants to deliver such a cold heart.

Either way, it's a lose/lose situation and a child's life has been taken.
Rest in peace Cooper.

 

[K_Z]

Six? That would be overachieving a bit, IMO. Especially with the lunch break, and the light bulbs, and all.

Hmmmm. But I can think of a few other sixes that might apply.

Deep six
Check your six
Eighty six someone
Six feet under
Six of one, half dozen of the other

Etc.

 

[EvilSoup]

I know this will offend everyone, but I can't help it! I REALLY feel sorry for Leanna to be discussed in the way she is being discussed. Her private life and affairs are being dragged through the mud, she is basically being cyber-bullied. She has lost a child, her husband is in jail for killing her child, she's had to give up her job, move away and go into hiding. Isn't there any compassion left for someone who has been put into a situation no one would ever want to be put into, presumably through no action of her own?

People are free to say what they want/need to say. I just want to say I have sympathy for her...and I really hope she stays off the internet for a very long time.

I see your point and appreciate your empathy for Leanna.

At this point, however, my own sympathies lie with Cooper. If later revelations show LH was a totally innocent party, then I will feel awful for her.

Right now, I only see it as Cooper being failed and unimportant to BOTH his parents.

 

[Hippiemomof5]

I see your point and appreciate your empathy for Leanna.

At this point, however, my own sympathies lie with Cooper. If later revelations show LH was a totally innocent party, then I will feel awful for her.

Right now, I only see it as Cooper being failed and unimportant to BOTH his parents.

This is exactly how I feel right now. I don't necessarily feel LH is guilty, however, nothing we've seen her say or do shows a woman broken over her son's death, and that leaves me struggling to understand, and feel sympathy.

 

[Datchery]

With respect, I think post 1830 is cherry-picking comments rather than doing a straight reading of the text. If we didn't have any other reason to be suspicious of LH, I don't think most of that segment of the speech would raise a red flag.

She calls Cooper "perfect" three times. She says that she wouldn't trade "mommy time" with him for the world. She talks about cherishing a last memory with him. I don't really care whether or not she specifically used the word "love" - unless we twist her words, the plain meaning of what she is saying is that he was central to her life and she will always cling to her memories of the times she had with her much-wanted child.

I think it is fine to speculate about LH's involvement, and I'm glad the mods decided to allow it. But I'm really, really uncomfortable doing a hatchet job on what might actually be the eulogy of a grieving mother for her infant son, especially when the criticism relies on parsing the psychoanalytic undercurrents of what might be deeply heartfelt words. This isn't a college literature class, it is a forum discussing the murder of an infant. I think a different interpretive standard applies.

 

[CHERIE.T]

I don't see anything wrong with DEDEE'S post.
She followed it with:

DISCLAIMER: I am not responsible for any omitted statements, any inaccuracies, including the sequencing of LHs statements. As always, OMO MOO JMO and all that jazz

 

[thefragile7393]

I see your point and appreciate your empathy for Leanna.

At this point, however, my own sympathies lie with Cooper. If later revelations show LH was a totally innocent party, then I will feel awful for her.

Right now, I only see it as Cooper being failed and unimportant to BOTH his parents.

I agree. I won't criticize anyone for their feelings about a situation. But I can't feel anything for her that is positive. Something isn't right. Something is off. Like many others I've followed true crime for a long long time...studied psych and work in the field (not a professional) and if I think something is off....its much of the time because it really is. Something....I really feel...is off here. To what extent.....no clue. Her statements are very telling...not just with this but what she has said to police as well.

 

[DeDee]

With respect, I think post 1830 is cherry-picking comments rather than doing a straight reading of the text. If we didn't have any other reason to be suspicious of LH, I don't think most of that segment of the speech would raise a red flag.

She calls Cooper "perfect" three times. She says that she wouldn't trade "mommy time" with him for the world. She talks about cherishing a last memory with him. I don't really care whether or not she specifically used the word "love" - unless we twist her words, the plain meaning of what she is saying is that he was central to her life and she will always cling to her memories of the times she had with her much-wanted child.

I think it is fine to speculate about LH's involvement, and I'm glad the mods decided to allow it. But I'm really, really uncomfortable doing a hatchet job on what might actually be the eulogy of a grieving mother for her infant son, especially when the criticism relies on parsing the psychoanalytic undercurrents of what might be deeply heartfelt words. This isn't a college literature class, it is a forum discussing the murder of an infant. I think a different interpretive standard applies.

I did not realize there was "a straight reading of the text" available. Included were all of LHs direct quotes I could locate. The horrors about jr high and high school were quotes I could not find; only a mention that those words were included. I would love to have access to a transcript of the entire speech so if you can lead me to where it's located, it'll be most appreciated.

BTW ~ How is it cherry picking when the quotes you mention about Cooper being perfect and LH wouldn't trade "mommy time" for anything were included in my post? Or is your complaint that my highlighted phrases were not the ones you wanted highlighted? For me and my senses, analyzing the eulogy is the same as analyzing a ransom note left at the scene of a kidnapping. It is part of the puzzle. Also, how were her words twisted when each direct statement of hers was in quotation marks? The only thing I wasn't certain about was the sequencing.

 

[K_Z]

I know this will offend everyone, but I can't help it! I REALLY feel sorry for Leanna to be discussed in the way she is being discussed. Her private life and affairs are being dragged through the mud, she is basically being cyber-bullied. She has lost a child, her husband is in jail for killing her child, she's had to give up her job, move away and go into hiding. Isn't there any compassion left for someone who has been put into a situation no one would ever want to be put into, presumably through no action of her own?

People are free to say what they want/need to say. I just want to say I have sympathy for her...and I really hope she stays off the internet for a very long time.

I'm not offended by your thoughts, nor your compassion, Evie. I know it might be hard for some to grasp, but I don't have any problem holding both sincere compassion, and sincere concern/ suspicion equally, when I observe behavior that doesn't make any sense to me.

I still believe the Caylee Anthony grandparents, Cindy and George, were wracked and crippled by grief over the loss of Caylee, at their own daughter's hands, and that grief warped and distorted their reactions to what happened with Casey's prosecution. (MOO.) But at the same time, I hold them both responsible for their own actions, and for interfering with the investigation of their daughter. They have my compassion for their losses, but my contempt for how they chose to support Casey over Caylee.

There have been other murder cases where I feel the same. One case in particular, I am convinced a grief stricken parent brutally and viciously murdered an innocent person, as revenge. That's a tough thing to wrap your emotions around.

Compassion, for me, does not exclude concern and suspicion, when there are bizarre and unexplained issues in a murder or death. I can embrace both. And LH's actions and behaviors are very, very troubling, IMO. We will learn more if/ when the case comes to trial, or if she is ever charged with anything.

Until then, she has my compassion for the disaster that has torn her family, life, and career apart, and caused the death of her son. Even as I watch and wonder about her strange behaviors, and what significance they might have, or not.

 

[katydid23]

With respect, I think post 1830 is cherry-picking comments rather than doing a straight reading of the text. If we didn't have any other reason to be suspicious of LH, I don't think most of that segment of the speech would raise a red flag.

She calls Cooper "perfect" three times. She says that she wouldn't trade "mommy time" with him for the world. She talks about cherishing a last memory with him. I don't really care whether or not she specifically used the word "love" - unless we twist her words, the plain meaning of what she is saying is that he was central to her life and she will always cling to her memories of the times she had with her much-wanted child.

I think it is fine to speculate about LH's involvement, and I'm glad the mods decided to allow it. But I'm really, really uncomfortable doing a hatchet job on what might actually be the eulogy of a grieving mother for her infant son, especially when the criticism relies on parsing the psychoanalytic undercurrents of what might be deeply heartfelt words. This isn't a college literature class, it is a forum discussing the murder of an infant. I think a different interpretive standard applies.

But even if you don't look at cherry picked, or specific sentences, the TOTALITY of the event was ALL ABOUT ROSS. This was supposed to be the ultimate, most loving tribute to a tragically lost baby boy, and it was focused on his killer instead. From the church speakers booming out Ross's voice from jail, to the standing ovation, the cellphone held up to her ears, as she followed the coffin, and her glowing words about Ross being a wonderful father now and in the future,....it was all about Ross.

But when describing little Cooper, tiny bits of animosity leaked through. It was glaring, imo. I never once felt huge gushing waves of unconditional love for her lost baby or overwhelming torrents of grief. In fact, she was remarkably composed. And, it was the first time that I ever heard a grieving mother, publicly discuss the plans of having another child, while her dead child was still cold in the casket. I thought that was astonishing.

As a mother, I have compassion for her, having lost her child. But I don't really understand her. She baffles me. If my husband had left my son to bake to death in the car, while he was sexting random women, ....I would probably never forgive him. Perhaps eventually, after long intense counseling I would learn to be civil. But just days later she is publicly declaring her undying love and devotion and saying she hopes to have kids with him again. :waitasec: I just don't get her.

BBM

interesting how that was worded= ' what might be heartfelt words of grief.' That is what I am trying to say. There shouldn't be any question that they are deeply heartfelt words of grief. But 'might be' is what we are left with.

 

[tatertot]

A new idea about LH's question to RH, "did you say too much?" (and FYI, I believe she is innocent)

Unless I'm wrong about the facts, LH asked to be taken to RH so she already knew he was at the police station being interviewed, but is it possible she only learned he had been arrested and put in the police car once she talked to him? At the time she was still processing the awful news that CH had died, and it might have been a complete shock that RH had been arrested and not merely escorted to the station. "Did you say too much?" might have been her asking him whether he had interfered with LE as they worked at the scene. This much is speculation but if he had panicked during emergencies (and some people do, they crowd out the paramedics trying to do their job) in the past, she may have thought he did the same this time, and was arrested as a result.

 

[popsicle]

A new idea about LH's question to RH, "did you say too much?" (and FYI, I believe she is innocent)

Unless I'm wrong about the facts, LH asked to be taken to RH so she already knew he was at the police station being interviewed, but is it possible she only learned he had been arrested and put in the police car once she talked to him? At the time she was still processing the awful news that CH had died, and it might have been a complete shock that RH had been arrested and not merely escorted to the station. "Did you say too much?" might have been her asking him whether he had interfered with LE as they worked at the scene. This much is speculation but if he had panicked during emergencies (and some people do, they crowd out the paramedics trying to do their job) in the past, she may have thought he did the same this time, and was arrested as a result.

Then wouldn't she ask, "what did you do"?

 

[popsicle]

Cooper's funeral service was open to the media. She put herself right in the middle of the public opinion bulls-eye. imo.

 

[cady]

Six? That would be overachieving a bit, IMO. Especially with the lunch break, and the light bulbs, and all.

Hmmmm. But I can think of a few other sixes that might apply.

Deep six
Check your six
Eighty six someone
Six feet under
Six of one, half dozen of the other

Etc.

I suspect that some of his "selfie sessions" took place while he was purportedly "watching cartoons" with his son. (cartoon, indeed!) JMO

 

[fran]

:wave:

Hi everyone! This thread is getting way too long. I've started another thread and locking this one.

Please continue the discussion here:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?251606-LeAnna-(Mom)-2&p=10800451#post10800451


Thank you!
fran