When did it become okay for a grieving grandparent to help their child obstruct justice??? That's not love that's obsession. IMO.
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When did it become okay for a grieving grandparent to help their child obstruct justice??? That's not love that's obsession. IMO.
Do we really and truly know that Cindy was obstructing evidence? Do we really know what the reason was that Cindy washed those pants or are we just guessing/assuming we know. Funny, the reason I'm saying this is I could see my mom doing something like that and it wouldn't be because she was distroying evidence. It would be because she really needed to wash the smelly pants not thinking that the pants played any part in the smell of that car. :waitasec: hope that made sense.. lol..
I am going to be like that attorney on JVM last night, directed at Wendy Murphy, (guest).... anyone who does NOT have compassion for them in this time of grief, I question whether they have a beating heart at all.
None of us know what we would do in this same situation... it's so easy to sit in judgement of someone else, and think it could never happen to US.... but it can.
My thoughts and prayers for George, and hope that he can somehow get through this horrible nightmare he has been thrown into. And my prayers for Cindy and Lee that they will have the peace and understanding to deal with his pain.
:clap:She admittedly and purposely gave investigators the incorrect hairbrush when they were looking for Caylee's hairs.
She tried to drag innocent young adults into this case by accusing Amy and Jesse of being involved in Caylee's disappearance.
For these actions she deserves criminal charges as well as a civil suit.
I need to say this, and it is difficult to put into words, but I think their denial and refusal to even contemplate, to open the door to the possibility that Casey could be responsible for the death of their granddaughter, has made the fall greater and deeper.
She admittedly and purposely gave investigators the incorrect hairbrush when they were looking for Caylee's hairs.
She tried to drag innocent young adults into this case by accusing Amy and Jesse of being involved in Caylee's disappearance.
For these actions she deserves criminal charges as well as a civil suit.
Giving anyone anything wasn't going to bring Caylee back.I truly feel they deserve some privacy and some time to try to find a little peace.
I don't think the argument is whether they should be allowed to obstruct or not, because of course the answer is no. I think the question is did they? and if so to what degree?Are you saying that people should be allowed to obstruct police in their investigation into the murder of a child, and you rationalise that because they are already dead it is okay to mislead police investigating that baby's murder? Why do you think adult relatives of murdered baby's should be allowed to mislead police? Don't you think children deserve special protection?
She admittedly and purposely gave investigators the incorrect hairbrush when they were looking for Caylee's hairs.
She tried to drag innocent young adults into this case by accusing Amy and Jesse of being involved in Caylee's disappearance.
For these actions she deserves criminal charges as well as a civil suit.
Jadestar,
As a person with a heart I agree 100 percent. As the owner of Websleuths this is impossible I am afraid.
We walk a very fine line here. We want to help victims and their families yet, when family members are key players in the case, and therefore open to discussion, we have to walk the above mentioned fine line.
Because of George and Cindy's direct involvement, such as asking for immunity, we can't ask people not to discuss them.
However, we can ask that people post respectfully even if their opinion is not a favorable one.
I would like to say that all of the moderators have been working non-stop to delete posts that violate TOS and monitor this situation today. Making sure Websleuths lives up to its reputation as a good decent and reliable forum.
I don't think the argument is whether they should be allowed to obstruct or not, because of course the answer is no. I think the question is did they? and if so to what degree?
I am not sure about any of this until I see all of it laid out in context.
I am not naive and am not saying that there hasn't been something improper done. But I need all the info in context, to make a determination as to the severity of their behavior. I also think they are entitled to a reasonable amount of privacy at this point. jmho of course
respectfully snipped....
Cindy and george have never asked for immunity, BC stated this in a video yesterday. It is his role as an atty to protect his clients to the best of his ability,and he put the whole immunity thing out there. He states that the SAO has never made mention of any forthcoming charges, the immunity issue is about being thorough and covering all bases.
Paraphrasing here, but the final line was something like "immunity isnt in their vocabulary, but is in mine".
Thanks to a Very Loving Grandmother & Mother,
That taught me from the time I was a Small Child..........
"Judge Not lest ye be JUDGED ! ! !" and even
bigger than that... " Don't Judge another ...till you have walked a mile
in their SHOES " and even one more.....
" NEVER SAY NEVER ! ! !" cause it seems that the tables
could possibly turn. God Forbid !
I doubt if ever one single time in GA & CA life... that they ever, never,
ever imagined that one of their children would commit a CRIME...
much less ONE of this magnitude ! ! ! OR THIS PAINFUL ! ! !
*I pray for them !
* I pray for the people trying to solve the case !
* I pray it never, ever happens to me /or my family !
I am Thankful that one day SOON there will indeed be
JUSTICE FOR LITTLE ANGEL CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY !
JMO
God Bless !
jjgram
*** I thank the Moderator's for ALL their Excellent/Hard WORK ! ! :clap::clap:!:clap:
I said it on another thread: It is all about Caylee and Justice for Caylee. Let's go from there...
bold is mine
What, specifically do you believe George/ Cindy have knowingly done that is illegal?
Do we really and truly know that Cindy was obstructing evidence? Do we really know what the reason was that Cindy washed those pants or are we just guessing/assuming we know. Funny, the reason I'm saying this is I could see my mom doing something like that and it wouldn't be because she was distroying evidence. It would be because she really needed to wash the smelly pants not thinking that the pants played any part in the smell of that car. :waitasec: hope that made sense.. lol..
Cindy and George are "acting out" only because of one person and that one person happens to be their daughter. Their own flesh and blood put them in the position they are in now. Are they acting they way we think they should act? NO, they are not, but they are acting the way they know how to act giving the circumstances they were put in. None of this would have happened hadn't it been for one person.
I view this as a football game. It's easy to sit back and yell at the tv when a play gets screwed up. We think we can make that play much better than the football players because we can see things that the players didn't see. However, I bet once we are on that field, the game is harder than we think. gosh, hope that made sense.... lol, sorry, hubby is rushing me off the computer so we can go out and do something :crazy:
I am going to give Cindy and George a break as long as LE, and Tim M. are giving them a break. I feel like as long as LE is not knocking their doors down, then there is no reason for me to do it either.
If they have done wrong in any way, I feel that LE will charge them. If and when that time comes, I may change my mind. Until then, I pray that they both get the help they need, I pray that they follow in Tim's footsteps and pay forward to this society. I pray that they are able to accept what most of us feel will happen with their daughter and use that to help other single mothers out there.
None that I can think of. Nope. Can't think of a single case where grandparents of a murdered child asked for immunity. :waitasec:Semantics...BC asked for it on their behalf...as a matter of law, given he represents them, it's the same thing.
I know for a fact it is not routine to ask for immunity for grandparents of murdered children, nor would any lawyer bother doing it unless they knew their client was at risk of being charged with a criminal offence. Do you know of any other case where the grandparents, or any relative of any child crime victim has refused to co-operate unless granted immunity?