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Has Caylee's death certificate been released?
 
Themis said:
Just hypothetically, in so many words, CA appears to ask if KC didn't take Caylee away because of jealousy and spite. KC appears to tell CA she over-analyzes everything and to leave the situation alone and move on. That was vague. KC is then more detailed and refers to killing and the death penalty. Then, KC posts an item that everybody lies and everybody dies, to remain silent and trust no one.

These apparently serial postings could have been a cryptic discussion following the heated fight on June 15th with the choking and KC possibly storming out of the house with Caylee.

First, CA posted this:

"Thursday, July 03, 2008 Current mood: distraught

She came into my life unexspectedly,
just as she has left me.
This precious little angel from above
gave me strength and unconditional love.

Now she is gone and
I don’t know why.
All I am guilty of is loving her and
providing her a safe home.

Jealousy has taken her away.
Jealousy from the one person
that should be thankfull
for all of the love and support given to her.

A mother’s love is deep,
however there are limits
when one is betrayed by the one she loved
and trusted the most.

A daughter comes to her mother
for support when she is pregnant,
the mother says without hesitation it will be ok.
And it was.

But then the lies and betrayal began.

First it seemed harmless,
ah, love is blind.
A mother will look for the good in her child and
give them a chance to change.

This mother gave chance
after chance
for her daughter to change,
but instead more lies more betrayal.

What does the mother get
for giving her daughter
all of these chances?
A broken heart.

The daughter who stole money,
lots of money,
leaves without warning and
does not let her mother now speak to the baby
that her mother raised,
fed, clothed, sheltered,
paid her medical bills, etc.

Instead tells her friends
that her mother is controlling her life and
she needs her space.

No money, no future.
Where did she go?
Who is now watching out
for the little angel?"


Then, KC makes three replies.

1. First, by posting this quote from a deceased rapper, Tupac. It is referred to as the "Tupac poem." Was this a message from KC to her mother to move on?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks or even months over-analyzing a situation;
trying to put the pieces together,
justifying what could've, would've happened.
Or you can just leave the pieces on the floor
and move the [expletive] on."

2. Then KC posted the graphic of the little girl looking at the stuffed animal that was hanged. The caption said:

"Why do people kill people,
who kill people,
to show people that
to kill people is bad?"

3. Finally, KC posted a third item that could also be a response.

Currently watching: American Psycho (Reference by KC regarding CA?)

"Diary of Days"

“On the worst of worst days,
remember the words spoken.
Trust no one,
only yourself.
With great power,
comes great consequence.
What is given
can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.

On the worst of worst days,
remember the words spoken.
Hold your head high,
Smile,
Laugh,
Love unconditionally.
Tomorrow is a brand new day."



So, my question is does anyone know the dates and times that KC's three items were posted?
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KC's "Diary of Days" might have been posted after CA's July 3 rant, but according to posters who read the computer info disclosed by the State more carefully than I did, it was actually written (or a first draft was written, anyway) on July 2. I believe there is more info in the July 2 timeline thread.
 
Themis said:
Just hypothetically, in so many words, CA appears to ask if KC didn't take Caylee away because of jealousy and spite. KC appears to tell CA she over-analyzes everything and to leave the situation alone and move on. That was vague. KC is then more detailed and refers to killing and the death penalty. Then, KC posts an item that everybody lies and everybody dies, to remain silent and trust no one.

These apparently serial postings could have been a cryptic discussion following the heated fight on June 15th with the choking and KC possibly storming out of the house with Caylee.

First, CA posted this:

"Thursday, July 03, 2008 Current mood: distraught

She came into my life unexspectedly,
just as she has left me.
This precious little angel from above
gave me strength and unconditional love.

Now she is gone and
I don’t know why.
All I am guilty of is loving her and
providing her a safe home.

Jealousy has taken her away.
Jealousy from the one person
that should be thankfull
for all of the love and support given to her.

A mother’s love is deep,
however there are limits
when one is betrayed by the one she loved
and trusted the most.

A daughter comes to her mother
for support when she is pregnant,
the mother says without hesitation it will be ok.
And it was.

But then the lies and betrayal began.

First it seemed harmless,
ah, love is blind.
A mother will look for the good in her child and
give them a chance to change.

This mother gave chance
after chance
for her daughter to change,
but instead more lies more betrayal.

What does the mother get
for giving her daughter
all of these chances?
A broken heart.

The daughter who stole money,
lots of money,
leaves without warning and
does not let her mother now speak to the baby
that her mother raised,
fed, clothed, sheltered,
paid her medical bills, etc.

Instead tells her friends
that her mother is controlling her life and
she needs her space.

No money, no future.
Where did she go?
Who is now watching out
for the little angel?"


Then, KC makes three replies.

1. First, by posting this quote from a deceased rapper, Tupac. It is referred to as the "Tupac poem." Was this a message from KC to her mother to move on?

"You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks or even months over-analyzing a situation;
trying to put the pieces together,
justifying what could've, would've happened.
Or you can just leave the pieces on the floor
and move the [expletive] on."

2. Then KC posted the graphic of the little girl looking at the stuffed animal that was hanged. The caption said:

"Why do people kill people,
who kill people,
to show people that
to kill people is bad?"

3. Finally, KC posted a third item that could also be a response.

Currently watching: American Psycho (Reference by KC regarding CA?)

"Diary of Days"

“On the worst of worst days,
remember the words spoken.
Trust no one,
only yourself.
With great power,
comes great consequence.
What is given
can be taken away.
Everyone Lies.
Everyone Dies.

On the worst of worst days,
remember the words spoken.
Hold your head high,
Smile,
Laugh,
Love unconditionally.
Tomorrow is a brand new day."



So, my question is does anyone know the dates and times that KC's three items were posted?
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As I mentioned above, Diary of Days was written July 2, before Cindy posted her "Caylee is missing" rant.

According to Nancy Grace (yeah, yeah, I know), the teddy bear icon was downloaded July 8 and the Tupac quote July 11. I don't know when or if either of those was displaying on KC's Myspace.
 
Has anyone heard when we will see another doc dump? I think the state has released a few things to Baez recently.
 
Exactly what was George's position in LE? Please tell me he wasn't really a homicide detective? Has he ever said what he was? I think he may have swept the jails LOL
TIA!!
 
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Thanks.
 
Paintr said:
http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/25944914.html

"George and I were partners in the Sheriff's Department. We worked together, we were detectives together. And he became a very good friend of mine. Great. Super guy. Loved his family, good family guy. It's got to be hard on him. Absolutely hard. terrible."--Sheriff Thomas Altiere
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the link said page not found. so thanks for the copy you provided.
GA was a detective, and for 31 days he waited to make that 911 call.:confused::confused::confused:
YES he and CA are part of waiting to make that call. JMO - that 31 day wait is not only Casey, it is them too.
after 3 days detective Pop should have or probably did say. "you have 24 hours or I am coming after you".
OR best would have been to say "you have 24 hours and I will call this into the authorities".
Mr. Detective is in deep chit...IMO
11 years as a detective and that is what he can say for himself? I did not go after the nanny, I did not go out looking for my grandughter....Blah..blah... BS
He is more disgusting then Cindy, but more charming sometimes.
she is more irrational, and less likable; But he is unacceptable as a detective Dad. JMO
 
Did KC ever take a lie detector test? Did she pass/fail?
When she was first arrested (before being charged for murder) was she put in the general population of the jail or did she have a private cell from the beginning?
 
Paintr said:
http://www.wkbn.com/news/local/25944914.html

"George and I were partners in the Sheriff's Department. We worked together, we were detectives together. And he became a very good friend of mine. Great. Super guy. Loved his family, good family guy. It's got to be hard on him. Absolutely hard. terrible."--Sheriff Thomas Altiere
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instead of quoting others, i took it straight from the deposition of GA

"Q What did you do in law enforcement?
3 MR. CONWAY: Go ahead and answer.
4 A I was a deputy sheriff, sir, for ten years of
5 my life.
6 Q And how long ago?
7 A Over 20 years ago."

If you read the transcript of the depo of GA you will find it on pg. 44. We need to make sure we are answering questions with facts and not hearsay or worse statements by LP or NG.
 
warbuckle said:
instead of quoting others, i took it straight from the deposition of GA

"Q What did you do in law enforcement?
3 MR. CONWAY: Go ahead and answer.
4 A I was a deputy sheriff, sir, for ten years of
5 my life.
6 Q And how long ago?
7 A Over 20 years ago."

If you read the transcript of the depo of GA you will find it on pg. 44. We need to make sure we are answering questions with facts and not hearsay or worse statements by LP or NG.
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Since you quoted my post....

Neither post was from Nancy G or Leonard P. Since I have a problem with George's credibility, I would never quote him as proof of facts or of the truth.

But thank you kindly for copying his answer. The more opinions, the more likely all questions will be answered. :blowkiss:
 
Paintr said:
Since you quoted my post....

Neither post was from Nancy G or Leonard P. Since I have a problem with George's credibility, I would never quote him as proof of facts or of the truth.

But thank you kindly for copying his answer. The more opinions, the more likely all questions will be answered. :blowkiss:
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Sorry. I didn't mean to infer you relied on NG or LP. I was just speaking in general. Hope I didn't offend.
 
Thank you Paintr, warbuckle & songline!! I'd love to know if George ever worked a homicide case :confused:
 
I'm still curious about CA apparently "broken nose" and wonder if during the big fight. Her black eyes and nose injury early on in the case peaked my interest and during the latest depo she still appeared to have bruises or dark circles. Any thoughts?
 
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