Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 20 October 2011

[epiphany]

JVM: is she using t wine as a coverup so she doesn't have to remember?

 

[epiphany]

JVM: re cops talking to boys again
Jim S:...those 2 boys would b best source of information

 

[panthera]

NG

JVM: Is DB using the wine as a cover up not to remember?

Caller asking about last time LE was able to talk to the boys. JVM stating parents are keeping LE from them. Jim Spellman says the boys would be the best source of information if DB was indeed blacked out.

JVM asking Dr. DiMaio about the large carpet removed from the house and what LE is looking for. He speculates blood, either the child or someone else. JVM asking if blood could be completely removed from the carpet. He says yes, the visible part could be, people think they have removed it but it is still in the weave of the carpet. Even a small amount can be analyzed for. Possibly positive luminol test on rug.

 

[epiphany]

re removing the carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: (on phone): only thing i can think of would b blood-the child's blood or someone's else's; u can remove visible sign of blood, but seeps into carpet (when u use chemicals to make it appear)

why did they remove carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: Maybe because they got a positive luminol [on the carpet]>now removed it from the home and take it to laboratory

 

[josie1986]

i wish i could watch this show thats on.

thanks to everyone for the updates

 

[cachmo]

They should give the father a lie detector test too... Moo

Is it possible that LE is waiting to give JI a LD because they(LE) think that DB may tell JI something that he would spill during the LD? LIke he didnt know then but may now type of deal. Does this make since? Lord Im driving my self crazy

 

[AlmostGone]

re removing the carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: (on phone): only thing i can think of would b blood-the child's blood or someone's else's; u can remove visible sign of blood, but seeps into carpet (when u use chemicals to make it appear)

why did they remove carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: Maybe because they got a positive luminol [on the carpet]>now removed it and take it to laboratory

I had the feeling of wanting to puke with goose bumps as I heard this.. I really hope they find her alive... Somewhere.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

If something does not break soon, Lisa won't be big news much longer, I fear...Baby Joshua did not get this much coverage and now he gets nothing. If there is nothing to report, they will report just that...sad to think about.

There are cases that got national media coverage in the beginning and then completely fade away, and then there are cases that manage to still get national coverage years later. I can think of cases where the entire country probably knew the victim's name when the case was in its media prime but wouldn't recall it today, and other cases where the victim has name recognition years after the case isn't hot in the media anymore. I'm not sure how Lisa's case will be, but it definitely seems to be getting more media coverage in the first couple of weeks since Caylee Anthony.

 

[panthera]

NG

JVM now discussing LE removing the computer hard drive, and more on the carpet being removed. Renee Rockwell saying someone else's DNA could be on it; or LE removed it to keep it from mysteriously disappearing. Also mentioning DB may say she's never shampooed the carpet and LE may find it has been.....speculating.

American Hero introduced.

The End.

 

[epiphany]

JVM re the Large Carpet removed

Renee R: ...also, could be---did she shampoo carpet [and tell LE she didn't]?

 

[Pinkhammer]

I think she said that DB is still married, to a soldier who has been deployed.

So what does this make Jeremy Irwin? The <Mod Snip>who supports her and her son by another man?

Does he even know if Baby Lisa is his own child?

 

[epiphany]

LE gave her an out-accident theory>She was afraid and covered it up.

Epiph: It's her story (May have passed out. Heard NADA.) and she's sticking to it.

No tomatoes, please.

 

[PoppyH]

re removing the carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: (on phone): only thing i can think of would b blood-the child's blood or someone's else's; u can remove visible sign of blood, but seeps into carpet (when u use chemicals to make it appear)

why did they remove carpet?

Med Examiner, Dr. DM: Maybe because they got a positive luminol [on the carpet]>now removed it from the home and take it to laboratory

Im sure they will find blood on the carpets, thats a given with children , and or pets, at least some small amouts, Im glad they took it tho

 

[panthera]

Dr. Drew

Ryan Smith substituting for Dr. Drew. Discussing case with Jim Spellman. JS going over what was seen at the house with LE executing the search warrant. Some sort of evidentiary material removed; do not know what it was.

Candace DeLong asked about the high-tech equipment brought in to search. Statistically house is not bad place to start search; she isn't even a year old yet, last known care giver, etc.

Ryan asking JS where we are in terms of family cooperating with LE; seems to him they would want to talk to LE. JS saying it has been about 12 days since parents last talked; prior searches were consented to, this search was result of warrant.

 

[cluciano63]

There are cases that got national media coverage in the beginning and then completely fade away, and then there are cases that manage to still get national coverage years later. I can think of cases where the entire country probably knew the victim's name when the case was in its media prime but wouldn't recall it today, and other cases where the victim has name recognition years after the case isn't hot in the media anymore. I'm not sure how Lisa's case will be, but it definitely seems to be getting more media coverage in the first couple of weeks since Caylee Anthony.

I believe it will be up to Mom and Dad (and their team) to determine how much coverage Lisa gets once the investigation stalls, which may be soon if test results are not helpful.

It is hard to know what will keep a missing person in the news. Kyron got quite a bit of media in the beginning, now nothing at all, except a line or two if there is a new search, despite his parents efforts. Joshua, the baby from TX, hardly had any national attention; Hailey Dunn had some, at first. Haleigh Cummings had more, due to the antics of the adults in her case. The little girl in Phoenix is getting none.

As it stands, I think it will be up to the family to determine continued interest. This LE has not been very vocal and seems to believe that Lisa met her fate very close to home. If the parents know they are innocent, they will have to make a push to keep a nationwide alert going.

JMO

 

[tiredblondy]

Did anyone else hear JVM say or someone on the NG show say that JI wanted to be with DB anytime she was questioned. He did not want her questioned without him?

They then started talking about he didn't have spousal rights because he wasn't her husband.

Why would he want to be with her? Doesn't trust her or what?

 

[Kat]

I like whoever it is that is sitting in for dr. drew? He has a nice, calm approach.

 

[panthera]

I think she said that DB is still married, to a soldier who has been deployed.

So what does this make Jeremy Irwin? The big sap who supports her and her son by another man?

Does he even know if Baby Lisa is his own child?

My belief is this was addressed in terms of spousal privilege. JI was being referred to as her husband which isn't true as she is still married to the soldier.

 

[panthera]

I like whoever it is that is sitting in for dr. drew? He has a nice, calm approach.

Ryan Smith. He's on In Session (HLN) for trial coverage during the daytime.

 

[jacy]

Did anyone else hear JVM say or someone on the NG show say that JI wanted to be with DB anytime she was questioned. He did not want her questioned without him?

They then started talking about he didn't have spousal rights because he wasn't her husband.

Why would he want to be with her? Doesn't trust her or what?

I would think lack of trust would be possible. Also, I've just begun to wonder if he suspects her, but won't show his hand until he knows where Lisa is for certain. Just MOO MOO MOO