local media's first home tour and presser 10/27/11 **cancelled**

[Scamperoo]

Okay I found where I read it, I think. Maybe Dr. Fessel can clarify which reporter and where?

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That is far from conclusive, the father said unequivocally he last saw Lisa at 5:20 before he left for work. He never said she was in the care of the neighbor, something I feel sure he would remember.

 

[JeannaT]

No, the only ones who state they saw Lisa on Oct 3rd are JI and DB. As far as the neighbor, neither LE nor the neighbor has said anything at all in regards to the neighbor (or anyone else) seeing Lisa that day at all.

I think some people are just assuming the neighbor saw Lisa because the neighbor was supposedly at the house that night.

There was the teenage boy they apparently took DNA from, who had access to the garage, who had been there that day apparently. We don't know what he stated.

Also, Deborah's brother must have come to pick her up to go to the grocery store for wine and baby sundries. He may have seen Lisa. We don't know.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I've looked through the archives, and I can't find an article that references what I was saying, so I guess officially I should retract it. I'm going to say, I still believe I read it and there was the briefest discussion on this forum related to that - kind of a "well that answers that" kind of thing.

It may have been on another forum, though.

I've looked for about half an hour to find it on this forum, and I can't. It may have been in a written statement quoting Cyndy Short in MSM.

I do think that we will know eventually if the friend saw her, because there will be other articles referencing whether she did or did not see her.

Thank you for looking! It can be a big pain, so I appreciate the effort.

 

[katydid23]

IMO you would take a HUGE risk leaving anyone at the house with a dead child. She would have sooner sent her brother in her place if that was the case, so she could "stand guard". JMO

Very true. I guess it all depends upon how much she wanted that box-0-wine. her brother was only 20, so she had to go.

But I agree that it would have been very risky to leave a dead child in the crib. Any time I have been asked to watch a sleeping child, I have ALWAYS looked in on them, at least a couple of times. I think that is common for people watching other peoples children. Especially if I had been told she was sick.
I would have stuck my head in the door and made sure she was asleep and okay. She is lucky that I was not her neighborhood babysitter that night I guess.

 

[JeannaT]

Thank you for looking! It can be a big pain, so I appreciate the effort.

You're welcome, and I'm really irritated I couldn't find it.

 

[BritsKate]

I am just finding out that DB & JI are taking a break for a much needed rest?? What planet did these parents come from! Breathless and speachless describes me!

Their child is missing - gone, absent, disappeared, poof like vanished and they need a rest!?

The devil shall hath no mercy on them!! They know after their boys talk to LE tomorrow, they are cooked!! Sorry for my rant, their behavior is despicable!

:ufo: (No offence, Kimster!) Be fair now, 1&2&3, it is only the 2nd or 3rd time the family has needed to rest.

After they find little Lisa I sincerely hope the KCPD, FBI agents, and dogs all get off 'until next week' at the very least.

 

[Sigh Sister]

You're welcome, and I'm really irritated I couldn't find it.

Was it by any chance an article that also said there are actually 5 witnesses seeing a man carrying a baby, but two of the witnesses haven't been named yet? Someone else is looking for an article that stated that, but it vanished.

 

[GoodGurl]

IIRC, all dad said was uh-huh when asked if he saw his daughter before he left for work. Did he say more, like "i kissed her goodbye", or mention where she was like in her high chair, or anything like that?

 

[RT51]

Supposedly the neighbor watched the children while DB was out buying wine (but don't ask me for a link, I read it here today). If true she would have noticed if Lisa wasn't there.

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Did that guy that's in front of the hosue just say that the "drinking buddy" neighbor was who watched the kids the night DB went to the grocery for the wine run?

I think he did.
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[grandmaj]

I wonder how well Baby Lisa is resting if she is in the hands of strangers? :banghead:

 

[JeannaT]

Was it by any chance an article that also said there are actually 5 witnesses seeing a man carrying a baby, but two of the witnesses haven't been named yet? Someone else is looking for an article that stated that, but it vanished.

No, I don't think so. It was long, but I knew everything in the article before, except the line about the neighbor seeing the baby. *rack rack rack my brain*

 

[grandmaj]

No child is going to rest well with strangers. The fear must be awful. Time is wasting and these parents need to march themselves in and stop the nonsence.

I rather doubt if she is alive that she is treated well. Anyone who kidnaps a baby has serious issues. When you buy a baby on the black market you know it is a black market baby. I don't buy at all if she is alive that she is a happy child.

There are only so many true adoption agencies out there. If you buy a child from one not recognized as a known adoption agency I have serious concerns, that the person doing the bidding has used any good judgement at all. I certainly wouldn't want my child in the hands of someone like this.

 

[Donjeta]

I think the 10:30 bedtime could be pretty constant because that's when the neighbor will say she left.

 

[natsound]

I wonder how well Baby Lisa is resting if she is in the hands of strangers? :banghead:

Just curious.... the cadaver dog hit doesn't convince you that Lisa is no longer with us?

 

[frankie069]

Well, if she's in the hands of newly adoptive parents who don't know she's kidnapped, probably resting exceptionally well. ;D That's what I'm praying for. IMHO, she had a great loving start, with a very loving family, and now if she's been adopted into another loving set of arms, she's good. ;D

This is not attacking the poster but the post, so please do not take it any other way. Now, do we really think there are parents out there that have not seen the news or a newspaper to see they just happen to have this missing child and they wouldnt call the police??????????? IF and lord knows I am using that word loosely but IF a family adopted her, I would not think they were a good family if they didnt call the police and turn in that the family or someone sold her to them. Lisa is not with newly adoptive parents. :banghead:

 

[Mountain_Kat]

What's the thread topic? :waitasec:

 

[grandmaj]

The sex of the teenager has never been established. Boy/girl. It has never been established in MSM.

 

[frankie069]

What's the thread topic? :waitasec:

Its supposed to be the media's first home tour that was canceled but you cannot help but answer some of these posts sometimes.. Sorry but you really cannot ignore some of them Lord help me.. I try..

Isnt there a forum we can make for general discussions on everything. Because it always seems to get mished moshed. Is that possible..

 

[Cazzie]

I wonder how well Baby Lisa is resting if she is in the hands of strangers? :banghead:

My thought exactly while I was in a grocery checkout line today, and I saw the People magazine with one of my favorite photos of Lisa on the cover.

This will sound weird and I don't care...but in that photo (like many of her), she is looking right into the camera and smiling...so sweet, content, trusting, and vulnerable...and I made eye contact with her and smiled back...but I felt sad and nostalgic. Then I had to be preoccupied with imminent checkout prep carp, and all the frustration and anger about "things about this case" ran thru my mind on fast-forward without words. This all happened very quickly (express checkout line). SIGH.

Wish we all knew what happened and where Lisa is right now. :heart:

 

[natsound]

IMO she's in heaven, y'all. I know it's hard to face, but cadaver dogs do their jobs with no bias. And when mom is hesitant to talk to police, or let anyone else who was in the house talk to police... I'm sorry, I'm a realist. We won't know for sure until a body is found, but the evidence that we know of points in a tragic direction.