MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #4

[wondering25]

http://www.sentinelandenterprise.co.../baby-doe-identified-mother-is-from-fitchburg

 

[AmyPond]

That is so weird that the poster would day age 4, and 42 inches tall. That is really off!

 

[Bravo]

As an ex Child Protective Investigator, I am really tired of blaming DCF for this baby's death. It was not just a job, but a passion for most of the ppl in the field. Never enough workers to cover all the cases, but we did what we could to protect children. RB & her boyfriend murdered Bella. The court & DCF did what they could to intervene but it wasn't enough. Stop blaming the agency that is trying to save children while at the same time protect parents' rights. It's not fair.


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Thank You for doing what you could. You did a job that I could never do. IMO the system needs an overhaul. You worked within the P&P of your former Agency. I feel for those who do this job. We must do better. These Children are our future. Those that survive that is.

 

[jjenny]

That is so weird that the poster would day age 4, and 42 inches tall. That is really off!

It also says 30 pounds, yet it would be at the very bottom of weight charts for a four year old to be 30 pounds. They really need to release correct information. Maybe that's why she wasn't identified for so long.

 

[Mollyandme]

Slightly O/T but not really. Mollyandme, that is EXACTLY the scenario I am in with my daughter. I know when we first got that diagnosis, even though I KNEW it was what the dr. was going to say, I felt like somehow I failed my dd in some way, and that it was my fault since I stay at home with her. I wonder if RB felt that way? Or was she just angry at the extra level of frustrations that it was something else she had to deal with? There have been times where my daughter is trying to speak to me and it's so frustrating because sometimes I just can't figure out what she is trying to say, and those times can be trying. But not because I am angry, or that she is frustrated, but because I feel like I should know!

I will say we enrolled her in a hearing school(even though she is a typical hearing child) which she goes to twice a week, then we meet with a speech apraxia specialist twice a week as well and we are almost at the point of not needing them! It's so amazing to hear her start talking, and I wish you both the best of luck as you are tackling this! Do yall work with the state program EIC? If so do you know if they are mandated reporters? I know here they came to our house, but could only come once every two weeks. While I doubt RB pursued any help for this, if she did I will be so disheartened if little Bella was let down by another adult.

I am very interested to see if Bella had seen anyone out of that house in the recent months before she was murdered. I feel like she probably hadn't, besides other junkies, because I don't think RB was holding a mommy of the year facade at that point.

Yes it is so frustrating for us as parents but also for our kids who are trying so hard to express themselves! Every child is different and I shared the same feelings you did. We used our private insurance for the early intervention services and yes they come to the house. I'm home with the kids until I start my new job next month but am looking for preschools now. When the child turns 3, the "intermediate unit" takes over if there are still issues and they will go to the child's school or daycare to work with them. There are also private places as well. They are also mandated reporters and when I worked in child welfare we received several referrals from Early Intervention and made referrels to them as well. I can totally see RB not wanting anyone in her house from a "big bad goverment agency". Which is maddening because it's the government and our tax dollars that have funded her life style.

 

[jjenny]

I just went back and at first they just said "toddler", then the first report with an age said "2-3". I haven't read further but I think at some point it was raised a bit. This is just what I found on the first page of the first thread for Bella.



I agree. Between the volume of cases, being stretched too thin and rules they have to follow I know that most child welfare workers are doing the best they can. I don't blame them at all, as I posted before I am sure they did what they were allowed to do, and closed the case based on what they found and what their guidelines are. I know people want someone to blame after the fact and wonder how they could keep her in a situation like that, but it's just not that simple.

Well I guess you can leave a child with a drug addicted prostitute and expect some sort of positive outcome.

 

[tlcya]

the official posters states "approximately" 4 years old
"about" 30 lbs
"about" 3.5 feet tall

LE has stated they are doing DNA analysis to confirm this child is Bella. They are probably rushing that analysis since they have two in custody and charged for Bella's death. It is a hard wait for the arraignment tomorrow. LE has promised more information/details will be released at that time. They seem very confident that baby doe is Belle Bond. Hopefully tomorrow will shed light on the why's behind that confidence.

 

[Paulas88]

What kind of disability benefits would she receive? Benefits for being a drug addicted, prostitute? I just sometimes loose my temper over these things, I realize drug addiction is serious, and certainly not making lite of it, we have a family member who threw away his entire life, home, kids, job, everything, because of drugs. How was RB, disabled?

RB (IMO) looks like she's got Fetal alcohol syndrome.

 

[justwannahelp]

Something is seriously wrong with these people!
Sounds like drug induced hallucinations...

Still curious as to what drug they are doing in addition to heroin. Obviously a hallucinogenic. Acid?

 

[Fireweed]

As an ex Child Protective Investigator, I am really tired of blaming DCF for this baby's death. It was not just a job, but a passion for most of the ppl in the field. Never enough workers to cover all the cases, but we did what we could to protect children. RB & her boyfriend murdered Bella. The court & DCF did what they could to intervene but it wasn't enough. Stop blaming the agency that is trying to save children while at the same time protect parents' rights. It's not fair.


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I am personally blaming the system as a whole. I do not think that any person on an individual level dropped the ball. <modsnip> The individual people who work as social workers are not the issue. The issue is that we base the entire organization around the completely asinine policy of keeping families together. That policy sounds all well and good, but in practice it only creates more heartache for the children. When you have an agency that creates rules and procedures on the basis of a horribly thought-out policy, then the agency will never, ever function properly.

 

[justwannahelp]

Given the mom's past history and occupation, ahem, how do we know for sure the alleged bio dad is the bio dad? JMO

Of course we don't know for sure, but she looks a LOT like him.

 

[Moe]

As an ex Child Protective Investigator, I am really tired of blaming DCF for this baby's death. It was not just a job, but a passion for most of the ppl in the field. Never enough workers to cover all the cases, but we did what we could to protect children. RB & her boyfriend murdered Bella. The court & DCF did what they could to intervene but it wasn't enough. Stop blaming the agency that is trying to save children while at the same time protect parents' rights. It's not fair.

No it is not fair, not fair to you or the children. Massachusetts DCF has already been under scrutiny for a year or so because so many cases have been botched. I'm sure this will all be back in the spotlight most likely because of this case.

 

[Katerz]

I just wanna say.. Not everyone who receives welfare are drug addicts and bad people who are lazy. I live in a fairly small town and it is next to impossible to find jobs here.. I'm almost forced to work 20-25 hours a week at a rate of a little bit above minimum wage for the state of FL because there is nothing else in this town. I don't have the financial means to drive out of town for a job. I don't receive cash or housing because I have no children. I was pregnant but recently miscarried. And in the state of fl I've noticed if you don't have minor children, they don't care about you. I receive food stamps and only that is enough to cover part of the month. And I work. I try to make ends meet but like I said there are no jobs here so I'm stuck with a job that only pays slightly over min wage and 20-25 hours a week. So not everyone who receives welfare is a deadbeat druggy. I take offense to that.

As far as DCF goes, I agree that they do what they can with what they have. If they took every child who was in a bad home, where would all those children go?? There simply is not enough housing for them.


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[Bravo]

I would think a prelim DNA was done with perhaps Bella's hair? Not to mention all the other items matching. Clothing, missing child, found deceased child, confession of sorts etc. etc.

 

[justwannahelp]

They all plead not guilty this early on - probably going to try and plea bargain to lesser charges - manslaughter or helping the mother do it. Doubt insanity will be an issue. Unsure what the likelihood of success would be - the police will want to get a murder conviction in such an awful, high profile case, but it will depend on the strength of the evidence whether or not they agree to a plea, which I'm sure would not be lenient in any case.

ETA: While the mother was obviously already a mess, I do think it is possible that this guy really did have her under his thumb given what he has shown himself to be capable of. She may have been a heroin addict, but if he was injecting her with large amounts in her jugular, she could still easily be overpowered and incapacitated and unable to figure out what to do. Not saying I think she is blameless by any means, but at least in the aftermath she may have been unable to escape and process what had happened. I hope to god this isn't like the Riley case where the mother was letting it go on for hours - i still can't wrap my mind around that one. And it's horrifying to me how many men capable of this date women with children. They've got real issues and I'm always amazed they didn't get in big trouble sooner due to their lack of control.

He may have incapacitated her for the first day or 2 after Bella died, but if it's true about them storing Bella in the freezer- then Bella has been dead a little over 3 months. Unless he had rachelle chained up for 3 months, she could have reported McCarthy killing her daughter. I'm baffled at her not going to authorities if she really is completely innocent. Drugs or no drugs, if you did not participate in the murder of your daughter, why wouldn't you go to police? Furthermore, the bio dad takes Rochelle out for an overnight camping trip near the water? Sounds like HE knew for at least 48 hours but still didn't go to LE!

 

[Steleheart]

Families who I have worked with have been able to qualify for SSI and welfare. It usually requires that the parent has both a mental health issue and a physical issue that would cause them to be disabled or unable to work (ie: bipolar and MS), or they have a qualifying mental illness that precludes them from holding a job. These folks usually receive approx $600 for SSI and up to $400 in welfare. (one child is approx $200 - $300)

If she were receiving just welfare - there is a welfare to work requirement that would sanction her (take away $100 per month until she works or is no longer receiving cash benefits). If on section 8 housing - she must pay 1/3 of her income to rent. Supposing her total income would be approx $900 and $300 of that is rent.

Thank you. People often confuse Disability and SSI. Social Security Disability Income (SSDI) is only available to people who have worked and paid Social Security taxes and became disabled through illness accident, or other causes.
Supplemental Security Income (SSI) Is available to anyone who can qualify because of their inability to EARN ENOUGH income due, sometimes, to disabilities like mental illness, Physical birth defects, etc. It is meant to be "supplemental".
I collect SSDI because I was unable to return to work because of my physical conditions and complications. The amount is based on what you paid in to SS. It infuriates me when people lump those of us who became disabled with those who are collecting (or sponging) off the government. It's my money - I put it there.
People who qualify for SSI generally have a legitimate, documented reason. As taxpayers I see no reason that we should not be willing to help less fortunate people. And for the record, addiction counts as a covered mental illness.

Having said that it also infuriates me that some people are so easily able to take advantage of the SSI benefit, hold good jobs getting paid under the table, pay no taxes, drive nice SUV's, collect EBT and have the latest smart phones.

But you can't tell a drug addict to just quit it and get a job. It's not realistic. I have seen people work very hard to change their lives, get their children back, get a job and earn an income while collecting and taking courses, etc.

These 2 didn't even try AFAIK. And the family, well, it's broken.

MOO

 

[Katerz]

I would think a prelim DNA was done with perhaps Bella's hair? Not to mention all the other items matching. Clothing, missing child, found deceased child, confession of sorts etc. etc.

I do believe baby doe is Bella. From the polka dot pants to the blanket. Why would RB and bio dad lie about her being baby doe? They've admitted their child is dead. So if they're lying and baby doe is NOT Bella.. Where the eff is their child? What do they gain from lying about her being baby doe? Makes no sense to me. And I know you're not the one who suggested she's not baby doe.. I'm just saying I agree that she is baby doe. This poor angel. She was set up for failure from the day she was born by a drug addicted prostitute of a person. I refuse to call her a mother because to me, she is not worthy of that title.


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[Bootsctr]

2 months! Sick. Someone on another site mentioned the random weather post on FB. They questioned whether it was related to Bella's time of death and not wanting her body in the heat. Gah, that's awful to type. Does anyone remember exactly when that was posted? I'm hoping it's totally unrelated.

I saw it. It was on April 24th if I remember correctly. That's the last post I could see. Maybe she went private after that - I don't know. I don't do FB. It was a post of the Weather Channel. I thought they might have been monitoring the weather after Bella's murder to get an idea of when to dump her.

Plus, I also thought if the father knew for 2 weeks... mmmmmmm.... He is guilty of misprision. I have also thought someone was waiting for there to be a reward for this child to have her name back. Just random thoughts.

:candle: RIP Bella Bond! We love you! :heartbeat:

 

[Fireweed]

I would think a prelim DNA was done with perhaps Bella's hair? Not to mention all the other items matching. Clothing, missing child, found deceased child, confession of sorts etc. etc.

To me, the clothing is what matches Bella even without DNA (obviously that must be done too). Several people here have commented that Bella was found in the same pants she was wearing in the photo LE had of her, but she wasn't. The pants in the photo are black with white poka dots and the pants she was found in were white with black poka dots. In yet another photo of Bella off facebook, she is wearing gray pants with pink poka dots. She was found wrapped in a blanket that was black and white striped.

Essentially Bella had a "style" and the clothes she was found in fit with that style. Baby Doe is Bella.

 

[Bootsctr]

Not sure if i attached correctly but this one says 3'1. It's very confusing

I agree! The entire story is confusing. From when she was born to when she was murdered... I think people were confused by the age LE was giving for the child and could have kept some tips from being called in based on that alone. 4T and I would assume the child was 4-years-old too.