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Did Jaimee or does her boyfriend Dan own a car?
when Alyssa refers to " some guy " in the media that is because we, the family were not wanting to say any names. so instead of saying JF we refer to him as that/some/a guy. I can say that L.E. has a few different names for him that would not be nice to say here. If I remember correctly it was msm that named Fluery. In fact if you go back in the Find Jaimee facebook page you will find somewhere were I state that this is the find Jaimee page and to leave names out of it
And,
JF states that he dropped Jaimee at the rite aid. I can guarantee without a shadow of a doubt that she left the parking lot as a passenger in his van. The rug that was found in the dumpster was in fact taken out of the green van. The sneakers that were in the dumpster with the rug were in fact Jaimees. I remember the day she bought them, she bought a matching pair for her son Jayson
Also,
what most do not know is Jaimee made a call to a friend about 30 minutes before the S.O.S call. In this call Jaimee tells the friend who she was with. The friend swears before a grand jury that she heard JF speaking in the background while this call was being made. at this point Jaimee was not feeling " creeped out "
Can you expand on what you meant by "downright creepy"? I have no experience with heroin, and had to look up what a heroin rush is like. From what I've read briefly on Bluelight.com, the feeling is euphoric and makes one extremely relaxed. From this site (NIH) the rush makes one very drowsy: http://www.drugabuse.gov/publicatio...t-are-immediate-short-term-effects-heroin-use "With heroin, the rush is usually accompanied by a warm flushing of the skin, dry mouth, and a heavy feeling in the extremities, which may be accompanied by nausea, vomiting, and severe itching. After the initial effects, users usually will be drowsy for several hours; mental function is clouded; heart function slows; and breathing is also severely slowed, sometimes enough to be life-threatening." That, plus remembering how the Beatles described it.
FJ - Then I got to thinking about the money you wired her. You don't have to say how much, but if it was a lot, that could entice someone with money trouble to do the unthinkable....
I don't have first hand experience either but used to know someone who had a co-worker shoot up in his car on the ride to work Sometimes he said he thought the guy was going to die (making gurgling noises like a baby cooing and got real still) and other times (the last time he ever gave him a ride to work) his "euphoric rush" had... shall we say, a sexual element to it and he (the user) completely freaked my friend out by his physical actions sitting in the passenger seat. My friend later talked to others who knew this guy, and some of them had had the same experiences around him. I don't know how common this is, but for that guy, it clearly was. There were other things but I'll leave it at that.
Yeah, that is pretty creepy. And thank you for leaving it at that.
This is all my own opinion....
So now I'm thinking that if JF has a history of sexual violence as noted by the restraining orders, and by his own admission he has a history of heroin use, he may have acted in a similar "creepy" sexual manner when using heroin. And if this is the case, then I doubt Jaimee was ever in his presence previously while he used, because I would think that she would have been totally creeped out before, and never wanted anything to do with him again, same as your friend never gave that person a ride again. MOO.
IMO, based on the supposed time line, I don't think there was enough time for JF to drive Jaimee to his house, shoot up, and act weird around her before she made the second call. And if that did happen, he would have been too "smacked out" to dispose of her body and her belongings afterwards, unless he had help, or unless he didn't do it right away, which is all a possibility. How long does the initial rush last before the person falls into a coma-like state?
Personally, I'm leaning toward her becoming freaked out the second she realized he wasn't taking her home. That would have been enough to freak anyone out IMO. And as soon as he was out of earshot (got out of his van for something), she called the second friend.
But it's been said she told her friend "Mike" (not his real name) she was actually at his house on Spring Road, when she made that second call. So... how far is it (drive time) from the Rite Aid to his address? I know it's been mapped before but I can't look for it right now.
This really stands out to me. If JF was speaking in the background then the friend had to know him to recognize his voice, right? Not to mention, if he was speaking in the background, that means him and Jaimee were not alone. Unless he randomly talks to himself, which I doubt, he would have to have been talking to whoever else was there. Unless... he was on his phone talking to someone while she was on her phone talking to the friend? Ugh... so many questions!
JF claims to have left Jaimee at the Rite Aid and gone home to do his drugs. Based on what we know from the security cameras, we know at least part of that is a lie since Jaimee was in the passenger side as they left the Rite Aid. For all we know, it was much later in the evening JF "fried his brain" on his heroin, as he so eloquently shared with msm. In fact, I'm thinking it would have to have been since, once a person shoots up, they're kind of down for the count, for quite a while. Unless like you said he's a functional user (and by the way I initially read that "functional loser" which I found rather ironic).
Ugh. So many what ifs, maybes, questions and no answers
Now to entertain the possibility that there were others in the van. Security cameras only showed Jaimee and JF in the front seats, if I read that correctly.
Did security cameras actually show the driver?