Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #10

[Tim N]

Teacher?

no, just a figjam.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

Correio da Manha is reporting police have searched " three water wells located in rural areas in the municipality of Vila do Bispo." (Translated)
PJ fez novas buscas por Maddie em três poços no Algarve nas últimas semanas

“Nas últimas semanas” - have they been going on for a few weeks then, Red?

 

[MENDEL]

From today's "Sexta às 9":

They also say CB is connected to disappearance of German minor from Foral's house. She stayed with 2 Ukranian guys and she could name only one. They say she come to Foral 11 days later in company of those Ukranian guys. According to Nicole there were no sex between them and she didn't file a complaint with police. Then they found she was pregnant. The girl set fire to a factory in Germany (from court report). Foral's house was part of an illegal network of German delinquent minors who were sent to Portugal since 80's through an agency. 500 minors in 2009. They were sent through German IAPRS (don't know what initials are) in Portugal, closed in 2014.

 

[redplanet]

(same correio da manha link) the searches of the 3 wells were with help from fire service divers. No trace was found

 

[MENDEL]

DBM

 

[redplanet]

“Nas últimas semanas” - have they been going on for a few weeks then, Red?

In recent weeks is how I translate it

 

[MENDEL]

In recent weeks is how I translate it

Yes so it's at least 2 weeks late this info. Hope this will trigger more info in the hours to come.

 

[Dlk79]

From today's "Sexta às 9":

They also say CB is connected to disappearance of German minor from Foral's house. She stayed with 2 Ukranian guys and she could name only one. They say she come to Foral 11 days later in company of those Ukranian guys. According to Nicole there were no sex between them and she didn't file a complaint with police. Then they found she was pregnant. The girl set fire to a factory in Germany (from court report). Foral's house was part of an illegal network of German delinquent minors who were sent to Portugal since 80's through an agency. 500 minors in 2009. They were sent through German IAPRS (don't know what initials are) in Portugal, closed in 2014.

Thanks Mendel, can you give us a direct translation of what they said altogether?

 

[MENDEL]

Thanks Mendel, can you give us a direct translation of what they said altogether?

The whole report? Not much more new to say. Sandra Felgueiras could talk to the girl (who left to Portimão with a Romanian boyfriend when turned 18) by message (Whatsapp?) and she admitted she knew CB (but didn't mention him when she disappeared), but answered vaguely and deleted messages before read. Then came a lawyer or something talking about international law and the searches by PJ are already widely discussed here.

 

[Dlk79]

(same link)
"PJ não encontraram nenhum vestígio"
The PJ found no trace

Hope that's not true, from the report it sounds like the search has been ongoing for a while though...

 

[Dlk79]

What do you mean, DLK?

The bit about the german minor and the Ukranian guys. Is the sexta 9 piece in english?

 

[sleuth-d-]

looks like Sandra F has tracked down and was texting who she thinks is the missing girl. asking if missing girl knew CB. at one point she says yes. then later she deletes the message. all very mysterious.
ETA. sandra F is the RTP reporter.
Sexta às 9 Episódio 25 - de 10 Jul 2020 - RTP Play - RTP

 

[MENDEL]

The bit about the german minor and the Ukranian guys. Is the sexta 9 piece in english?

I already edited. She could only name one of them (and only first name, Ivan). The report is mostly in Portuguese with some parts in English. HCW answers a question in German.

 

[MENDEL]

looks like Sandra F has tracked down and was texting who she thinks is the missing girl. asking if missing girl knew CB. at one point she says yes. then later she deletes the message. all very mysterious.
ETA. sandra F is the RTP reporter.
Sexta às 9 Episódio 25 - de 10 Jul 2020 - RTP Play - RTP

Pity she didn't read it in time. She took 30min. to answer so Sandra wasn't looking all the time.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

From today's "Sexta às 9":

They also say CB is connected to disappearance of German minor from Foral's house. She stayed with 2 Ukranian guys and she could name only one. They say she come to Foral 11 days later in company of those Ukranian guys. According to Nicole there were no sex between them and she didn't file a complaint with police. Then they found she was pregnant. The girl set fire to a factory in Germany (from court report). Foral's house was part of an illegal network of German delinquent minors who were sent to Portugal since 80's through an agency. 500 minors in 2009. They were sent through German IAPRS (don't know what initials are) in Portugal, closed in 2014.

IAPRS - International Association of Psychosocial Rehabilitation Services.

ETA - Away to look up which services were associated with the Deaconry in Stendhal...

 

[MENDEL]

this must be the rtp report papers are linking to?
Sexta às 9 Episódio 25 - de 10 Jul 2020 - RTP Play - RTP

It's interesting newspapers, including DM, reported almost at same time as "Sexta às 9" so this couldn't be the source. I suspect information was passed with a period after which they can publish (this is called technically an embargo I think).

 

[MENDEL]

IAPRS - International Association of Psychosocial Rehabilitation Services.

ETA - Away to look up which services were associated with the Deaconry in Stendhal...

As usual I can't wait for your findings.

 

[sleuth-d-]

IAPRS - International Association of Psychosocial Rehabilitation Services.

ETA - Away to look up which services were associated with the Deaconry in Stendhal...

like your thinking. the deaconry is part of ACL.
ACL - Arbeitsgemeinschaft christlicher Lebenshilfen.

 

[Betty_Boop88]

It's interesting newspapers, including DM, reported almost at same time as "Sexta às 9" so this couldn't be the source. I suspect information was passed with a period after which they can publish (this is called an technically an embargo I think).

Embargos all over this case. I love the sleuthing on here, but I fear it’s completely fruitless in this specific case because of these. We’ll wake up one morning to find CB has either been charged or the case against him has been dropped. Only then will we know what they had on him.

 

[sleuth-d-]

It's interesting newspapers, including DM, reported almost at same time as "Sexta às 9" so this couldn't be the source. I suspect information was passed with a period after which they can publish (this is called technically an embargo I think).

i hope RTP are working with Wolters and co in Germany. Because Sandra F does like flashing names across her filmed reports.