Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #13

[Tim N]

Madeleine McCann prosecutors 'involved in pressure game' with prime suspect

This news item is worth a read

^this.

 

[Tim N]

It might be! It starts with an R...



I’m thinking perhaps a Google doc with the timeline and links to key supporting info (such as statements and such) might work. I already have something of a timeline worked up, but it’s not comprehensive and not ready for prime time.

thatd be so good..feel free to PM or share the doc for collaboration.

 

[Sillybilly]

... All the below have been named in MSM in relation to the MM case and their initials used throughout these threads.

<rsbm>

Thank you Dlk79. Great work.

A link has been added to the opening post of this thread that connects to your above post. The link will carry forward whenever a new thread is started. At any time, members can just go to the opening post and click to take them to your post.

If members wish to have names added, just use the Report feature on the post (or jump off any post) to provide the new info and we will update your post.

PS: If we ever get time, we will go back and post the link in the previous 12 threads. Don't know when that might be but we'll try.

 

[BIZCOCHO]

They did 2 searches at the box factory:

2016 for environmental crime

http://www.volksstimme.de/lokal/oschersleben/durchsuchung-polizeieinsatz-in-neuwegersleben/

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

2018 no information about the reason for the search warrant

Britische Polizei hat 400 neue Hinweise im Fall Maddie - Braunschweiger Zeitung

"As the "Magdeburg Volksstimme" reports on Saturday, the ruined site was last searched in June 2018. "Several hundred police were on the site at the time. Christian Wolters of the Braunschweig prosecutor's office confirms that there was a joint search of the property with the BKA in 2018. However, he declined to comment on the details and results."

2018!!!

 

[Tim N]

They did 2 searches at the box factory:

2016 for environmental crime

Polizeieinsatz in Neuwegersleben

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

2018 no information about the reason for the search warrant

Britische Polizei hat 400 neue Hinweise im Fall Maddie - Braunschweiger Zeitung

"As the "Magdeburg Volksstimme" reports on Saturday, the ruined site was last searched in June 2018. "Several hundred police were on the site at the time. Christian Wolters of the Braunschweig prosecutor's office confirms that there was a joint search of the property with the BKA in 2018. However, he declined to comment on the details and results."

2018!!!

So logically we can assume that

-They found nothing (dozens of cops there for hours?..)
-What they did find wasnt conclusive
-They found conclusive and damning evidence connecting/convicting CB, CB/Others, Others

these aspects of the 'sleuthing' are what interest me the most as they are junctures in the narrative and each 'choice' of the story has some sort of probability to it..say here its most unlikely that they found nothing..whereas the other two are probably equally likely).

We can work backwards throughout the entire forum and see a weave of junctures like this explaining why different people have different theories purely because they have taken a slightly different path in their narrative.

 

[Dlk79]

They did 2 searches at the box factory:

2016 for environmental crime

Polizeieinsatz in Neuwegersleben

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

2018 no information about the reason for the search warrant

Britische Polizei hat 400 neue Hinweise im Fall Maddie - Braunschweiger Zeitung

"As the "Magdeburg Volksstimme" reports on Saturday, the ruined site was last searched in June 2018. "Several hundred police were on the site at the time. Christian Wolters of the Braunschweig prosecutor's office confirms that there was a joint search of the property with the BKA in 2018. However, he declined to comment on the details and results."

2018!!!

On the recent Australian documentary, HCW was asked when they came to the conclusion that MM was dead. He answered "within the last 2 years" meaning it was after the bar confession in 2017. IMO, I think they may have found something (possibly pictures/video) during this 2018 raid of the box factory that ties in with his 2 year statement.

 

[redplanet]

They did 2 searches at the box factory:

2016 for environmental crime

Polizeieinsatz in Neuwegersleben

Großeinsatz in der Börde:Kinderporno-Razzia auf vermülltem Fabrikgelände

2018 no information about the reason for the search warrant

Britische Polizei hat 400 neue Hinweise im Fall Maddie - Braunschweiger Zeitung

"As the "Magdeburg Volksstimme" reports on Saturday, the ruined site was last searched in June 2018. "Several hundred police were on the site at the time. Christian Wolters of the Braunschweig prosecutor's office confirms that there was a joint search of the property with the BKA in 2018. However, he declined to comment on the details and results."

2018!!!

The February 2016 search, according to this report, was to investigate suspicions of two things: environmental crime, and child *advertiser censored*.
Polizeieinsatz in Neuwegersleben

 

[Officer Dibble]

On the recent Australian documentary, HCW was asked when they came to the conclusion that MM was dead. He answered "within the last 2 years" meaning it was after the bar confession in 2017. IMO, I think they may have found something (possibly pictures/video) during this 2018 raid of the box factory that ties in with his 2 year statement.

Oh it breaks my heart.

 

[Officer Dibble]

I get the feeling the bar and park incidents might have been influenced by drink and drugs.

The burying of evidence at the factory IMO was a result of heat on him at the time. He wanted to conceal the evidence but rather than destroying his prized videos, he took the calculated risk that it wouldn't be found.

If that is the case he has no conscious about digging up skeletal bones then

 

[Officer Dibble]

MT sais CB arrived in Spain after MM went missing with the winnebago

Please will the Portugese police release the mentioned saliva sample that is so far unidentified from MM's bed. MOO.

 

[redplanet]

Probably incorrect??? but this Bild report says
"Kurz darauf fand ein Spaziergänger auf dem verwahrlosten Gelände von B. einen Stick ...."
Maybe German speakers can help with Spaziergänger please???
Verdächtiger im Fall Maddie McCann: In dieser Idylle verschwand Inga

 

[redplanet]

On the recent Australian documentary, HCW was asked when they came to the conclusion that MM was dead. He answered "within the last 2 years" meaning it was after the bar confession in 2017. IMO, I think they may have found something (possibly pictures/video) during this 2018 raid of the box factory that ties in with his 2 year statement.

Yes, anything found in the Feb 2016 search would not fit the phrase "within the last 2 years", so it's probably something found in the 2018 search IMO.

 

[Loobyloo]

Probably incorrect??? but this Bild report says
"Kurz darauf fand ein Spaziergänger auf dem verwahrlosten Gelände von B. einen Stick ...."
Maybe German speakers can help with Spaziergänger please???
Verdächtiger im Fall Maddie McCann: In dieser Idylle verschwand Inga

Can't read the full piece (adblocked) but Spaziergänger is just a walker, someone out for a walk.

 

[Loobyloo]

I am reluctant to click on any of the FB Like web links. His history is disturbing.

I didn't post a FB link. The link in my message was to the results of a search within this Websleuths thread, for anyone who wanted to read the previous discussion of CB's online aliases. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

 

[redplanet]

Can't read the full piece (adblocked) but Spaziergänger is just a walker, someone out for a walk.

If the article and another similar are correct it indicates that shortly after the 2016 search by police, a walker (ordinary member of public) found the dog bones IMO.

 

[BIZCOCHO]

@redplanet
I'm not sure, but I think the translation is "some people taking a walk found a stick in B's neglected place".

 

[redplanet]

If CB had 2 dogs he was very fond of which died, and police located one of them in 2016, maybe one of the aims of the 2018 search was to find the 2nd dog? IMO.

 

[Sharkbite]

If CB had 2 dogs he was very fond of which died, and police located one of them in 2016, maybe one of the aims of the 2018 search was to find the 2nd dog? IMO.

CB abandoned 2 dogs in Braunschweig for about 6 weeks. One of them was found dead, the other was euthanized to put it out of it's misery. My guess was this would've been when CB took NM to Spain/Portugal in 2014

He should be put down for that alone!!

 

[BIZCOCHO]

According to Mohammed (Inga's case lawyer, who had access to the files)

Verbindung zwischen Christian B. und der vermissten Inga (5)? Anwalt ihres Vaters im Interview

"Several dead dogs were found, some buried in the sand, so that only the head looked out. "In all likelihood, Christian B. is responsible," believes Mohammed. And there are other indications that could suggest that Christian B. could be involved in Ingas disappearance. He has no alibi for the day. A witness also remembered a dark van nearby. Christian B. is said to have owned such a car."

 

[Tim N]

Anyone else getting the impression from the documentary that they really don’t have any “concrete” evidence at all? I know we’ve long speculated they’re holding something back - I’m not so sure now.

i think it just supports the case for being careful and deliberate with what info is released.