Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #17

[mrjitty]

Didnt MS say that he committed some break- ins with CB?
And did the break-ins cease while CB was in prison in 2006?

Well the Algarve is a pretty big place, so I doubt CB was the only one doing break-ins

 

[SuperdadV8]

No it didn’t, but my guess is it was via the inmate who takes him the meals, hence the meal info.

It could likely have been sketched on the backside of the menu, so media knows, what he eats at this week. Due to the fact, that there are no cameras allowed, i still think FF told him to do make the drawing. He must have released it to BILD as part of a strategy to "correct" the image of his client. Because there is nothing more he can do for him by now.

At least FF reached the same state of desperation, he always linked to the prosecuters in the past IMO.

So yes, there should be a strategy made by prosecuters, to crack him by solitary confinement. That could explain, why HCW repeatedly quoted, that investigation could last months or even years, although it already lasted about three years. Most of the info we read about, are results from 2018-2020. So it's not really new stuff, i assume.

As long as he is imprisoned, so at least until january, there is no need to interrogate or make an arrest warrant without interrogation. Even if they could make that already.

I'm very curious, to what that kind of game will lead in the end.

 

[SuperdadV8]

Of all the nonsense about this case down the years - I think this was by far the most interesting development

Yes, i think so too. Even the special "odeur" and half naked/naked break ins fit to other witness testimonies about CB.

One thing doesn't fit and that's the pot belly. But even skinny guys can have pot bellies, especially hard drinkers, what he is said to be. According to the fact, he was very skinny on his road trip in spring 2007, he could have lost a possible belly in 2006, when he was imprisoned and couldn't consume alcohol. Even FF confirmed, that CB easily loses weight in prison.

 

[Ardoch]

I was looking for info on the 2007 burglaries after Redplanet's post, and happened upon this BBC article from 2014.

It has some details on the break-ins/sexual assaults of mainly British preadolescent girls. I'm not aware of reading this info in the 17 threads although it may have been summarised in other media reports.

Anyway, interesting.

"Overall, nine of the 18 break-ins involved alleged sexual assaults against British girls aged six to 12.

Three took place in Praia da Luz, five in Carvoeiro, nine in Albufeira and one in Vilamoura."

Also:

"Detectives said last month that the lone intruder was described as tanned with dark hair.

They said the man was bare-chested in some of the attacks, and some witnesses said he had a pot belly. Three victims said he had a "noticeable odour".

Two of the families said the intruder had worn a distinctive burgundy long-sleeved top, and one family said the top had a white circle on the back.

The man was said to have spoken English slowly, with a foreign accent."

Madeleine police probe 18 break-ins

I do recall a new WS member who joined not long after me posting something cryptic about the distinctive burgundy top? Something linked to a gang?? Sorry can't recall exactly the details.

Also, "bare-chested." Someone who liked to sneak in naked sounds familiar. Dark hair could be a wig. Smelly like "Chris Diesel" or "The Screwdriver"?

Anyway, I guess we'll keep revisiting the acres of info/theories while we wait for the Germans to charge CB.

BBM
I might be wrong, but could you be referring to the pedophile gang caught recently in Munster? The main instigator is photographed with a burgundy top with a circle. I think it was briefly discussed if there was any relevance in this - secret codes.....or just a t- shirt.
German police bust alleged child sex ring in allotment house | Daily Mail Online

 

[Chiatos]

Bad guys can be connected to MM's disappearance, of course. We have lots of them. CB told more than once he knows what happened and I believe him. But, personally, given evidence and profiles available, I'd more readily bet on RM than CB. But both can be connected. Until we know what happened, no one can exclude anyone. Some people can escape for the sole reason that no solid evidence can be found, not because they're innocent. Anyway, I never believed CB acted alone. So nothing will be clear up until we know exactly what he did.

In fact, that's how MN managed to carry on for almost 20 years!

 

[Ardoch]

I know this is a reach and probably doesn’t mean anything, but CB’s sketch that has been released looks like it has been drawn over a note/letter of some sort. It looks like there is writing on the other side which is peeping through the drawing. I’ve changed the contrast on my phone and it’s clearer

Lets go all 'Sherlock' and have a bit of signature analysis detective work while waiting.
There's a lot of loops on this one!

 

[Okapi]

BBM
I might be wrong, but could you be referring to the pedophile gang caught recently in Munster? The main instigator is photographed with a burgundy top with a circle. I think it was briefly discussed if there was any relevance in this - secret codes.....or just a t- shirt.
German police bust alleged child sex ring in allotment house | Daily Mail Online

Yes, thanks Ardoch, that sounds about right.

 

[Arnie M]

I've tried changing the settings to see if it could be any more obvious but I don't think it's possible to make it readable! I guess if it was anything notable the police would have it.

I see what you mean. Is that his signature on the bottom right as well?

I know this is a reach and probably doesn’t mean anything, but CB’s sketch that has been released looks like it has been drawn over a note/letter of some sort. It looks like there is writing on the other side which is peeping through the drawing. I’ve changed the contrast on my phone and it’s clearer

It looks like a date and signature Chris with a circular squiggle around the s
29.08.20 Chris

What looks like writing in the center of the sketch looks like a watermark to me

(a watermark is a nearly invisible stamped depression in paper put there by the paper manufacturer.)

By lightly skimming his pencil on the paper highlights it a bit.

 

[Arnie M]

Should also have mentioned the apparent writing (watermark) could also be a previous note written in a notepad and lots of pressure on a pen would make impressions on the underlying paper which show up if you lightly rub a pencil over it.

Most of us did stuff like that as kids playing Sherlock Holmes

 

[SuperdadV8]

It looks like a date and signature Chris with a circular squiggle around the s
29.08.20 Chris

What looks like writing in the center of the sketch looks like a watermark to me

(a watermark is a nearly invisible stamped depression in paper put there by the paper manufacturer.)

By lightly skimming his pencil on the paper highlights it a bit.

Unfortuneatly the small "Chris" handwriting is insufficient to allow a comparison to the only "handwritten" word "Freundin" at the Neuwegersleben area. Maybe some specialist for writings in here?

 

[Arnie M]

I know this is a reach and probably doesn’t mean anything, but CB’s sketch that has been released looks like it has been drawn over a note/letter of some sort. It looks like there is writing on the other side which is peeping through the drawing. I’ve changed the contrast on my phone and it’s clearer

I think you are correct ..... now that I looked closer at the top of the page , like you said , appears to be writing.

I still think the large imprint thing in the center could be a watermark.

Thanks , you have a sharp eye

 

[SuperdadV8]

The sketch contains two readable german letters "z" and "g". Both letters are not mirrored, so the sketch hasn't been made on the backside of a written letter, but on top of it, so they became visible due to the hatching.

Comparing the letter "g" to the Neuwegersleben graffiti it tells me, the graffiti hasn't been made by CB. In the past we discussed his ex gf in relation to the graffiti as kind of motive for his sadistic vein related to women, so i think we can rule that out maybe.

 

[Okapi]

BBM
I might be wrong, but could you be referring to the pedophile gang caught recently in Munster? The main instigator is photographed with a burgundy top with a circle. I think it was briefly discussed if there was any relevance in this - secret codes.....or just a t- shirt.
German police bust alleged child sex ring in allotment house | Daily Mail Online

Just back out of a rabbit hole trying to find the post, but no joy. However I did rediscover that Betty Boop 88 actually queried the maroon shirt in her very first post back in Thread 6:

Can't link so a crude cut and paste from Betty's post:


"...something that struck me a few pages back was the post about the ring in Germany that was recently busted, and the poster questioning whether CB could be connected.


Sick vids in paedo torture house could take cops 30yrs to go through


I can’t help but notice what the suspect at the centre of the investigation, ‘Adrian V.’ is wearing...

A maroon top with a white circle. Which makes me think of :


FOUND: Shirt worn by Madeleine McCann suspect


End quotes

Apologies for taking our sleuthing round and round the roundabout!

 

[Okapi]

"Windows were a feature, as well as burglaries taking place in the evening."

Spate of burglaries may be key to Madeleine abduction


More info on the break ins involving young girls. Disturbing that several involved toddlers; in one case an intruder was found in a room staring at a child in a travel cot. This report says that in six of these cases, an intruder was disturbed while in the act of entering a property. Imagine the audacity and the vile predatory nature of someone who breaks into a property to harm a child even when the parents are present.


Evidence of attacks on kids before Maddie snatch

 

[peanutJelly]

Yes, thanks Ardoch, that sounds about right.

I thought I read somewhere that this was a promotional T-shirt for a bar, but can’t find it now

 

[enjy15]

CB involved in another sexual assault against a child very close to PDL, victim has said she's 99% sure it's CB and FF has refused to comment. This happened only 1 month before MM was abducted.

Fall Madeleine McCann: Weiteres Ermittlungsverfahren gegen Verdächtigen Christian B. - DER SPIEGEL

'The case occurred in early April 2007, about ten kilometers from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann disappeared from an apartment complex on May 3. The then ten-year-old victim visited Salema beach with parents and a family friend, where she played with other children. There, as the girl described it to Portuguese investigators at the time, a naked man grabbed her, held her tight and masturbated in front of his eyes. When his brother saw this, he called the adults. The fathers pursued the man. He escaped."

 

[Ardoch]

CB involved in another sexual assault against a child very close to PDL, victim has said she's 99% sure it's CB and FF has refused to comment. This happened only 1 month before MM was abducted.

Fall Madeleine McCann: Weiteres Ermittlungsverfahren gegen Verdächtigen Christian B. - DER SPIEGEL

'The case occurred in early April 2007, about ten kilometers from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann disappeared from an apartment complex on May 3. The then ten-year-old victim visited Salema beach with parents and a family friend, where she played with other children. There, as the girl described it to Portuguese investigators at the time, a naked man grabbed her, held her tight and masturbated in front of his eyes. When his brother saw this, he called the adults. The fathers pursued the man. He escaped."

 

[SuperdadV8]

CB involved in another sexual assault against a child very close to PDL, victim has said she's 99% sure it's CB and FF has refused to comment. This happened only 1 month before MM was abducted.

Fall Madeleine McCann: Weiteres Ermittlungsverfahren gegen Verdächtigen Christian B. - DER SPIEGEL

'The case occurred in early April 2007, about ten kilometers from Praia da Luz, where Madeleine McCann disappeared from an apartment complex on May 3. The then ten-year-old victim visited Salema beach with parents and a family friend, where she played with other children. There, as the girl described it to Portuguese investigators at the time, a naked man grabbed her, held her tight and masturbated in front of his eyes. When his brother saw this, he called the adults. The fathers pursued the man. He escaped."

That could be the first known assault on a public beach, if it can be linked to CB. That would be a "new" modus operandi and could be some kind of link to a few unsolved disappearances of children in the past.

My god, the MM-case could be just the tip of the iceberg...

 

[SuperdadV8]

Also interesting!

Operation Gargamel was established in 2015 on a global scale. There were many investigations of german paedo-rings from 2017 and further. In that scale the BKA (german FBI) is in charge. In 2018 the BKA instructed Braunschweig prosecuters to investigate CB, while SY interrogated known traffickers like H.B.

Could there be a link between operation Gargamel and long time traveller and child molester CB?

Europe Cracks Down on Global Paedophile Ring

 

[enjy15]

Also interesting!

Operation Gargamel was established in 2015 on a global scale. There were many investigations of german paedo-rings from 2017 and further. In that scale the BKA (german FBI) is in charge. In 2018 the BKA instructed Braunschweig prosecuters to investigate CB, while SY interrogated known traffickers like H.B.

Could there be a link between operation Gargamel and long time traveller and child molester CB?

Europe Cracks Down on Global Paedophile Ring

I think BKA discovered CB and his possible involvement to MM through their investigations into paedophile rings. CB had been mentioned to the police a few times but he was never investigated. I think they found something to link him as there have been thousands of MM sightings and tips I don’t think they can investigate every one and a lot of them won’t be credible. I think it’s why CB hasn’t been prosecuted yet, he’s part of something much bigger so they don’t want to make the evidence public yet. The pressure tactics by the German LE isn’t just for CB to collapse under pressure but other people involved to IMO.