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from today : PJ continues to support BKA:

PJ continues to assist German authorities in investigation into Maddie McCann's disappearance

The German Federal Prosecutor's Office says that the indictment against the main suspect in Maddie's murder will only be ready in 2024.


This is the first time that the German authorities have investigated the case of Madeleine McCann, the girl who disappeared in the Algarve in 2007.

The indictment against Christian Brückner, the main suspect for Maddie's murder will only be ready in 2024. "The investigation is ongoing, but it will take much longer. We may not finish it this year," Hans Christian Wolters, the German prosecutor at the Braunsch public prosecutor's office, revealed to Expresso. The delay in bringing charges against the suspect is related to the fact that proceedings are still underway in different countries, sources close to the case said.

Hans Christian Wolters even stated that he was certain that Brückner "is Maddie's killer".

Christian Brückner, 45, was convicted in 2019 for a rape of an elderly woman. The crime took place in Portugal and the rapist is serving a seven-year prison sentence in Germany. Brückner had previously been convicted of several crimes, including child sexual abuse.

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Actually Polish Police confirmed some two weeks ago that Julia's family contacted the LE and provided them with evidence and documents.

Sprawa Madeleine McCann. 21-letnia Polka uważa, że może być zaginioną. Mamy komentarz policji

- Czynności wykonane przez policjantów z Komendy Wojewódzkiej Policji na tym etapie zaprzeczają wersji przedstawionej przez tę kobietę. Czynności co prawda trwają, ale już teraz można wykluczyć, że ta wersja jest prawdziwa - przekazał portalowi Gazeta.pl w czwartek rano mł. asp Paweł Noga z KWP we Wrocławiu. Jak zaznaczył funkcjonariusz, rodzina przedstawiła dokumentację, m.in. akt urodzenia Julii.
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Translation: Results of the investigation done by the policemen from Komenda Wojewódzka Policji at this moment disprove the claims of this woman. Investigation is still ongoing, that's true, but we are already able to exclude the possibility this story is true. - junior warrant officer Paweł Noga told the Gazeta.pl portal on Thursday morning. The officer emphasized that the family provided the documentation, among others Julia's birth certificate.

Somehow I believe more a police officer, than Julia, so for me that case is as closed as it can be. Whatever Julia and Fia claim on the social media, Julia is not Madeleine McCann, Livia Schepps or any other missing person.
 
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Hexe said:
Actually Polish Police confirmed some two weeks ago that Julia's family contacted the LE and provided them with evidence and documents.

Sprawa Madeleine McCann. 21-letnia Polka uważa, że może być zaginioną. Mamy komentarz policji



Translation: Results of the investigation done by the policemen from Komenda Wojewódzka Policji at this moment disprove the claims of this woman. Investigation is still ongoing, that's true, but we are already able to exclude the possibility this story is true. - junior warrant officer Paweł Noga told the Gazeta.pl portal on Thursday morning. The officer emphasized that the family provided the documentation, among others Julia's birth certificate.

Somehow I believe more a police officer, than Julia, so for me that case is as closed as it can be. Whatever Julia and Fia claim on the social media, Julia is not Madeleine McCann, Livia Schepps or any other missing person.
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I agree. I think the police statement is, by far, the most solid thing we've seen. That pretty much settled it to me.
 
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Kinderbelle said:
Didn't LE say in December they were closing in on charging him within a "matter of weeks"?

I also don't know how it works for Germany, but do you not think that if there was 100% irrefutable evidence that Madeleine was dead, despite not being able to prove WHO did it, that they would have provided that to the Met so they could tell the McCanns and give them that closure? The McCanns can then move on and grieve, but as far as I am aware that's not been done as the McCanns are still looking for their daughter.

Seems to indicate to me that actually the Germans don't have proof of anything.
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Is it possible they have been told but have refused to accept it?

Their official website still says:
"Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words."
 
The latest re. Julia

One of the reasons Julia thought it was Madeleine McCann, according to her representative, was that SHE RECOGNIZED THE FACE OF CHRISTIAN BRÜCKNER, who was named by the German authorities as the prime suspect in the British girl's disappearance.

www.theportugalnews.com

Young women who claims to be Maddie McCann might be another missing girl

According the newspaper Notícias ao minuto, newspaper, 21-year-old Julia Faustyna, who recently has gone viral after claiming she could be Madeleine McCann, may after all be a girl who went missing in Switzerland in 2011.
www.theportugalnews.com www.theportugalnews.com
 
investikater said:
Is it possible they have been told but have refused to accept it?

Their official website still says:
"Why do we continue?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest that Madeleine has been harmed.
Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.
She is young and vulnerable and needs our help.
We love her dearly and miss her beyond words."
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That's been written on the home page for a long time.
The updates are more telling IMO.

Updates: | findmadeleine.com

findmadeleine.com findmadeleine.com
 
tedtink said:
That's been written on the home page for a long time.
The updates are more telling IMO.

Updates: | findmadeleine.com

findmadeleine.com findmadeleine.com
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I was reading through the most recent updates and thinking i saw a grim acceptance. Until I got to the 22nd April 2022. That one reads to me like they are being realistic but they haven't given up. Good for them.
 
investikater said:
How does it make sense that they know it was him but can't prove it?! It's supposed to work the other way around! I.e; if you can prove he did it then you know that he did it.
FFS!
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Could the Germans may have been negotiating all along? ‘We will expose the entire network through a CB trial if you don’t give her up’. Agreement is reached - now how to give her back & explain the absence?

Along comes a psychic who predicts MM is Melanie, a German singer. Whilst all this focus is on FJ, a singing Melanie living in Germany, an unknown found in a French car accident, adopted; possessing a coloboma, a birthmark on her leg, a child the spitting image of MM - has come forward to Grange….
 
investikater said:
How does it make sense that they know it was him but can't prove it?! It's supposed to work the other way around! I.e; if you can prove he did it then you know that he did it.
FFS!
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This is not unusual in missing body cases.

e..g in one case I read about a vulnerable woman was a drug user and low level dealer for a higher level drug dealer. He ended up murdering her and disposed of the body in a car in a lake. Law enforcement knew the missing woman had been murdered because it was fairly self evident what had happened and eventually an associate snitched. However the associate could not get the confession on a wire. Nor could they find the body for many years. So they didn't have enough to charge.
 
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Pixie Child said:
Could the Germans may have been negotiating all along? ‘We will expose the entire network through a CB trial if you don’t give her up’. Agreement is reached - now how to give her back & explain the absence?

Along comes a psychic who predicts MM is Melanie, a German singer. Whilst all this focus is on FJ, a singing Melanie living in Germany, an unknown found in a French car accident, adopted; possessing a coloboma, a birthmark on her leg, a child the spitting image of MM - has come forward to Grange….
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What exactly would the Germans have to gain by doing this? None of what you are saying makes ANY sense.

Nothing is stopping them saying to the McCanns "This is how we know irrefutably that Madeleine is dead". Unless they don't actually have irrefutable evidence. They might have SOMETHING, but not anything completely irrefutable as they seem to believe.

As for the crazy woo psychic stuff I won't even comment.
 
Kinderbelle said:
Nothing is stopping them saying to the McCanns "This is how we know irrefutably that Madeleine is dead". Unless they don't actually have irrefutable evidence. They might have SOMETHING, but not anything completely irrefutable as they seem to believe.
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RSBM

I've been arguing this since the drop. Indeed were this investigation being handled by UK police, it is unthinkable that they would not have looped them in, at least at a level of generality if they could not discuss a specific piece of evidence.

What makes no sense to me is they appear to have spoken to the parents via the media in the first instance
 
Kinderbelle said:
What exactly would the Germans have to gain by doing this? None of what you are saying makes ANY sense.

Nothing is stopping them saying to the McCanns "This is how we know irrefutably that Madeleine is dead". Unless they don't actually have irrefutable evidence. They might have SOMETHING, but not anything completely irrefutable as they seem to believe.

As for the crazy woo psychic stuff I won't even comment.
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Depends on who they are negotiating with but it would bring an end to the never ending investigation & saga. (No idea but something like a Ru 5th column in Germany.)

They don’t have evidence that she is dead. They have circumstantial evidence placing CB in the area and evidence that CB is a paedophile. They may have photographs that could be debated. If they had anything solid, they would have shared it with British Police by now.

The psychic doesn’t have to have psychic powers in this scenario, rather is playing a role.
 
investikater said:
How does it make sense that they know it was him but can't prove it?! It's supposed to work the other way around! I.e; if you can prove he did it then you know that he did it.
FFS!
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Untangling the wreckage involves carefully picking apart and separating what Herr Wolters has said from what has been reported, not necessarily one and the same thing.

For example, Brueckner has been charged with, but has not yet been tried for, the rape of Hazel Behan. That offence was committed in 2004, 3 years before Madeleine vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Irish woman 'raped by Maddie suspect' speaks out after he is charged

Hazel Behan, now 39, was raped at knifepoint inside a holiday apartment in Praia da Rocha, Portugal, in June 2004 by a man she believes is Christian Brueckner.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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enquirer6 said:
Untangling the wreckage involves carefully picking apart and separating what Herr Wolters has said from what has been reported, not necessarily one and the same thing.

For example, Brueckner has been charged with, but has not yet been tried for, the rape of Hazel Behan. That offence was committed in 2004, 3 years before Madeleine vanished.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Irish woman 'raped by Maddie suspect' speaks out after he is charged

Hazel Behan, now 39, was raped at knifepoint inside a holiday apartment in Praia da Rocha, Portugal, in June 2004 by a man she believes is Christian Brueckner.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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and from what I have read - these charges Behan plus are supposed to start in the Spring. That would be a few weeks away.
Still have not heard anything - I guess they are still awaiting consent from Italy...
 
Niner said:
and from what I have read - these charges Behan plus are supposed to start in the Spring. That would be a few weeks away.
Still have not heard anything - I guess they are still awaiting consent from Italy...
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Don’t think they are waiting on Italy. They are already in the judicial process in germany

Last we heard the defence were trying to move the case to a different court because it should be filed in the defendants home district where his Wohnsitz is
 
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