Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #17

[Elley Mae]

“Either they wanted to land very fast or they wanted to escape radar coverage as soon as possible,” he said. “You burn a lot more fuel when you fly very fast, so normally you try to avoid it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?hp&_r=0

“The water in this area is more like the oceans around the Bahamas,” Dr. van Sebille added. But he also warned that the seabed in the area is marked by a steep ridge and that prevailing currents drag in more debris from other parts of the ocean.
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“It may be harder to spot from the air the debris related to the plane because there is more garbage floating in this area,” he said.

The F.B.I.'s spokesman, Michael Kortan, said the bureau would not discuss what it had found on the hard drives because the investigation was continuing.

Though investigators are still focusing on the pilots’ role in the plane’s disappearance on March 8, no concrete evidence has come to light to indicate that they sabotaged the flight.

 

[popsicle]

Or they wanted to crash very fast and hard.

 

[JerseyGirl]

2 Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) P3 Orions
1 Japanese Coast Guard jet
1 Japanese P3 Orion
1 Republic of Korea P3 Orion
1 Republic of Korea C130 Hercules
1 Royal New Zealand Air Force (RNZAF) P3 Orion
1 Chinese military Ilyushin IL-76
1 United States Navy P8 Poseidon aircraft
1 civil jet acting as a communications relay
1 RAAF P3 Orion has been placed on standby at Pearce to investigate any reported sightings.
6 vessels relocating to the new search area including HMAS Success and 5 Chinese ships.

http://www.nst.com.my/latest/font-c...edible-lead-moves-search-to-new-area-1.536483

 

[JerseyGirl]

searchers have concluded that hundreds of floating objects detected over the last week by satellite, previously considered possible wreckage, weren't from the plane after all.

http://www.hudsonhubtimes.com/ap general news/2014/03/28/friday-march-28-2014

 

[ToutCa]

“Either they wanted to land very fast or they wanted to escape radar coverage as soon as possible,” he said. “You burn a lot more fuel when you fly very fast, so normally you try to avoid it.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/28/world/asia/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-370.html?hp&_r=0...respectfully snipped for space...

“It may be harder to spot from the air the debris related to the plane because there is more garbage floating in this area,” he said.

BBM: Experts still feel MH-370's 1:21-2:15am radar track could show emergency OR diversion.

The protracted Indian Ocean search is frustrating. But every shift in it can't be blamed on Malaysia.

Malaysia has little to nothing to do with the search.

The info for the search came from non-Malaysian sources and non-Malaysian data analysis-- Inmarsat, Boeing, Rolls Royce, NTSB, FBI, satellite data from USA, China, Thailand, France, Australia, etc.

The search itself is being carried out by non-Malaysians.

Misinformation and conflicting statements have come not just from the Malaysians, but from all sides. For the sake of closure for the families, let's hope searchers locate some actual debris sometime soon, instead of chasing random floating trash for days or weeks on end.

 

[marlywings]

"The Australian Geospatial-Intelligence Organisation is re-tasking satellites to capture images of the new area."

The Australian Transport Safety Bureau says information suggests the plane was travelling at "close to constant speed".

"The information provided by the international investigative team is the most credible lead we currently have in the search for aircraft wreckage," the bureau's Martin Dolan said.

"However, this information needs to be continually adjusted for the length of time elapsed since the aircraft went missing and the likely drift of any wreckage floating on the ocean surface."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-28/malaysia-airlines-mh370-search-zone-shifts/5351938

 

[Elley Mae]

There is a picture here at this link that is interesting. fold-up helicopter being unloaded from the back of a cargo plane. Also at the AMSA you can read about the updates but it will not allow me to link. jmo

http://news.sky.com/story/1233253/missing-plane-objects-seen-in-new-search-area

A tweet from the Australian Marine Safety Authority (AMSA) said a Royal New Zealand Air Force Orion aircraft spotted the objects on Friday.

 

[Forensics]

searchers have concluded that hundreds of floating objects detected over the last week by satellite, previously considered possible wreckage, weren't from the plane after all.

http://www.hudsonhubtimes.com/ap general news/2014/03/28/friday-march-28-2014

Australia believes it has thoroughly combed the area where 122 objects were supposedly seen, and despite unconfirmed aerial sightings of three objects, ships had found nothing. The source also said that reports a Thai satellite had located a separate debris field of some 300 objects are not being treated as credible by the Australian Maritime Safety Authority or the Australian Transport Safety Bureau. The Australian authorities had not received any formal information from Thailand and have dismissed the reports, which they first heard via the media.

I certainly hope the new search area proves more fruitful. Hopefully, the objects spotted today can be found and retrieved by the ships now on route to the new site ...we may know more within the next 24 hours.

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/search-for-missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-shifts-to-new-area-west-of-perth/story-fnizu68q-1226867105992

 

[marlywings]

All the updates, tweets, facebook posts are on following page...

https://www.amsa.gov.au/media/

 

[Forensics]

A representative from the Australian Maritime Safety Authority says moving and refining search areas is normal procedure in typical rescue operations, as more reliable data becomes known. This is particularly relevant in this case, as everyone knew the search of MH370 would be extraordinarily difficult.

Lateline ABC Television

 

[Elley Mae]

The U.S. Navy has already sent a black-box locator—a device that is able to detect pings from the flight recorder—to Perth. The device will be towed behind a salvage ship, which itself will take days to reach the search area, meaning it'll have little time to search before the black box's batteries are expected to expire.

The locator is able to search only about 150 square miles of ocean a day, according to the Navy—a tiny sliver of the vast area aircrews have been attempting to cover each day.

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...66432872326564.html?mod=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories

 

[Momoffourboys]

Good morning, all!

Seven years ago, two RMAF jet engines disappeared and ended up in South America. That loss was never fully explained. The Defence Minister in 2007/8 was Najib Tun Razak.
Today, a passenger jet with 239 people on board has also disappeared. The circumstances of each are different but the way in which we handled the situation, and the manner in which our leaders dismissed our concerns, is worrying. It is business as usual after the event.



http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2014/03/28/ground-the-rmaf-over-mh370-fiasco/

 

[Momoffourboys]

Objects spotted by aircraft...let this be something.
Cannot imagine the frustration of the SAR teams and the families.

 

[alioop]

Positive news tonight Australian time. Let's hope they are now looking in the right area.

As an update to my mangosteen floating experiment, the little guy has now been happily floating in my bowl of water for 3 and a half days. The water is starting to get discoloured from the purple skin but it is showing no signs of sinking any time soon. The skin is still hard. I confess I didn't go and buy aquarium salt as I have been busy so it's still in the original tap water.

 

[Elley Mae]

Positive news tonight Australian time. Let's hope they are now looking in the right area.

As an update to my mangosteen floating experiment, the little guy has now been happily floating in my bowl of water for 3 and a half days. The water is starting to get discoloured from the purple skin but it is showing no signs of sinking any time soon. The skin is still hard. I confess I didn't go and buy aquarium salt as I have been busy so it's still in the original tap water.

I wonder if the living things in the ocean would eat those?

 

[TootsieFootsie]

Is anyone responsible for picking up garbage from the Oceans and Seas or does it just drift around forever ?

I did see a UK show where they went around waterways picking up rubbish but was wondering if there are people whose job it is to pick up stuff in Oceans and Seas.

Seems it would make finding possible debris from the plane easier if there weren't so many false alarms.

I am so sad for all on the plane and their family, friends etc. I hope they find something soon, it must be a nightmare not knowing for certain what happened to their loved ones lease:

 

[Waddles]

Five of the 10 aircraft find multiple objects of various colours, BBC newsflash

 

[alioop]

I wonder if the living things in the ocean would eat those?

I think it would be still too hard to nibble on unless it softens a lot more over time. It's not as hard as say a coconut as I am sure I could cut it open with a sharp knife.

 

[Skittles]

CNN reporting live (getting new in their ear-piece) that five separate planes have spotted objects in new search area! They also said the objects spotted earlier by one plane in the area had been confirmed by a second plane.

Now we just need the boats. IIRC they said last night it would take the ships at least a day and a half to get there.

ETA: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/28/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[alioop]

Five of the 10 aircraft find multiple objects of various colours, BBC newsflash

Wow, this could be it!