Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #24

[ElleElle]

The raw data used in the search for the missing Malaysia Airlines flight will be released to the public tomorrow.

Malaysia's acting transport minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein announced the nation's Department of Civil Aviation and Inmarsat - the British satellite firm whose data helped track MH370 - will release the information jointly.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...rch-area-released-tomorrow.html#ixzz32sDhJQuh
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Wonder when tomorrow? Maybe tonight 9pm PST?

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[Amee]

Last week, Inmarsat said it would release all the data it used to determine the final path of missing flight MH370 to help reassure relatives that authorities are searching in the right location.

Inmarsat, in a joint statement with the DCA, said the data communication logs, or raw data, would be released along with an explanation of the analysis used to work out the route.

The data and analysis would be available in about a week, the spokesman said. – May 26, 2014.

http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/...lite-data-on-mh370-tomorrow-says-hishammuddin

 

[ElleElle]

that's the one i posted

Ok, weird. I see a different image.


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[Amee]

The hunt for MH370 will be tendered to private contractors

This new ship would work with the Chinese survey vessel Zhu Kezhen, which has already begun mapping the area.

The survey is likely to take 2-3 months to complete.

The maps will allow towed sonar equipment to be deployed without the risk of it banging into undersea ridges and mountains.

Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and Phoenix International Holdings Inc. are potential candidates after helping on the deep sea recovery of the black boxes and debris from Air France Flight 447 which crashed in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean in 2009


http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/the-hunt-for-mh370-will-be-tendered-to-private-contractors

 

[redheadedgal]

Ok, weird. I see a different image.

i think the one i posted was just a zoomed in view ??

 

[ElleElle]

i think the one i posted was just a zoomed in view ??

No! I see a structure of a fuselage? Weird and I saved but cannot re-attach it.

 

[ilovepierre]

This one:

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images...94381453126/Malaysian-Airlines-possib-009.jpg

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/09/malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-possible-debris-plane

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For some reason, I've always thought that that could be a flotation device.

 

[al66pine]

Malaysia releases satellite data.
http://news.msn.com/world/malaysia-releases-satellite-data-on-missing-jet

I saw this short item on msn and thought w/s board would be jumping.

Is this old news?
Msn said posted an hour ago.

 

[Amee]

The Malaysian government has released 45 pages of satellite data used to determine the final flight path of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which vanished March 8 with 239 on board.

The Wall Street Journal reported that Australian investigators determined that analysis of the final transmissions between the plane and a satellite found that the jetliner was likely descending after running out of fuel.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/0...-mh370-likely-crashed-after-running-out-fuel/

 

[Amee]

Inmarsat data will allow independent verification

http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/264006

 

[marlywings]

Folks I've just removed a bunch of posts.

Discussing moderation in the thread is NOT allowed.

Telling other members what or how to post is NOT allowed either.

Stay on topic of the thread thanks.

 

[SouthAussie]

"The new data also reveals, for the first time, that authorities are considering whether the plane was on a published north-south flight path in the south-eastern Indian Ocean, known as air route M641, which connects the Cocos Island to Perth.

It is not known if this suggests the plane could have been flying on a known air route, on its own, with the crew unconscious or dead, and run out of fuel."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ne...-little-too-late/story-fniztvne-1226933565972

 

[SouthAussie]

"The ATSB has also revealed that it is analysing low frequency signals in the Indian Ocean, recorded by hydrophones as part of a United Nations nuclear test ban and which monitor nuclear explosions, to see if they can help to refine the search area."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/ne...-little-too-late/story-fniztvne-1226933565972



Here is a little info about the hydrophones themselves ...

"The Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organisation operates a global network of sensors that includes cabled sound-channel hydrophones in the Atlantic, Pacific and Indian Oceans. Hydrophones are deployed in groups of three, known as triads, so that the arrival times and azimuths of signals can be obtained."

http://www.researchgate.net/publica...ional_monitoring_system_hydroacoustic_network

 

[Momoffourboys]

MH370 data released, can’t be deciphered
FMT Staff | May 27, 2014
The raw data from British satellite firm Inmarsat were used to trace the path of the missing plane.
UPDATED
PETALING JAYA: The Department of Civil Aviation (DCA) today released the data communication logs of Flight MH370.
The raw data which is from British satellite firm Inmarsat were used to trace the path of the missing flight.
Although explanation was given with the data logs, expert help is needed to decipher the logs.

The release of the data followed calls from missing passengers’ relatives for more transparency in the probe into the aircraft’s mysterious disappearance.
The communication logs consists of data from “handshakes” between the aircraft and the satellite, said Inmarsat.

DCA has released 47 pages of raw satellite data used to conclude that the missing Malaysia Airlines jet crashed into the southern Indian Ocean.

That Inmarsat data consists of a few electronic pings between the plane and the British company’s satellite network. It was analyzed and used as the basis for focusing the recovery search — so far without success — on a remote section of the southern Indian Ocean west of Australia.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/ca...70-data-logs-released-but-cant-be-deciphered/

 

[marlywings]

The data logs....

http://www.dca.gov.my/mainpage/MH370 Data Communication Logs.pdf

 

[ElleElle]

The data logs....



http://www.dca.gov.my/mainpage/MH370 Data Communication Logs.pdf

Oh goodie! Reading for my coffee break. Thanks!


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[BetteDavisEyes]

Satellite 'Handshakes': Data on Missing Jet Released

By Alastair Jamieson

Malaysia's government and satellite firm Inmarsat on Tuesday released the data used to determine the path of missing flight MH370, responding to calls from passengers' relatives for greater transparency.

The data from satellite communications with the Malaysia Airlines plane, which runs to 47 pages in a report prepared by Inmarsat, features hourly "handshakes" - or network log-on confirmations - after the aircraft disappeared from civilian radar screens on March 8.

Families of passengers are hoping that opening up the data to analysis by a wider range of experts can help verify the plane's last location, nearly three months after the Boeing 777 with 239 passengers and crew disappeared.

Separately, Australian investigators said the plane was likely running out of fuel when it stopped communicating with the satellite.

In a new analysis of available information, the Australian Transportation Safety Bureau said the final "handshake" was "consistent with the satellite communication equipment on the aircraft powering up following a power interruption," adding: "The interruption in electrical supply may have been caused by fuel exhaustion."

It added that calculations based on the amount of fuel on board were consistent with the jet running out of fuel at the point where the final "handshake" occurred...

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...leased-n115001

 

[time]

http://www.kansas.com/2014/05/26/3475946/ap-news-in-brief-at-558-pm-edt.html

But at least one independent expert said his initial impression was that the communication logs didn't include key assumptions, algorithms and metadata needed to validate the investigation team's conclusions that the plane flew south after dropping off radar screens 90 minutes into the flight.
"It's a whole lot of stuff that is not very important to know," said Michael Exner, a satellite engineer who has been intensively researching the calculations. "There are probably two or three pages of important stuff, the rest is just noise. It doesn't add any value to our understanding."

Read more here: http://www.kansas.com/2014/05/26/3475946/ap-news-in-brief-at-558-pm-edt.html#storylink=cpy

More at...

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/no-value-in-malaysia-plane-data-30308069.html

Sarah Bajc, whose husband was on the flight, does not believe that the plane few south and had been critical of the Malaysian government. She has been at the forefront of a campaign to press the government for more transparency.

She said that "a half dozen very qualified people were looking" at the information and she hoped to have their take soon.
But along with Mr Exner, she was also critical of the way it was released. The government put it in a PDF file not in its original data form, making working with it far more time-consuming.

"A little tweak to make people work harder needlessly," she wrote in an email.

 

[time]

I'M CYNICAL...

The lion's share of the information released relates to data from MH370 while it was still on the ground in the Malaysian capital Kuala Lumpur.

It goes on to give information about the electronic pings or 'handshakes' received from the aircraft after its ACARS communication system was switched off shortly after it took off for Beijing.

Aviation analysts say one of the so-called pings - at 11.41pm on the night the aircraft disappeared - is omitted from the data.

We don't know why.

They also say that additional data giving the exact position of satellites and their distance from the aircraft have not been released.

It is this kind of detail which makes further interpretation by others difficult.

http://news.sky.com/story/1270022/mh370-data-leaves-many-unanswered-questions

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

MH370: Is Inmarsat right?

By Richard Quest, CNN

updated 10:21 AM EDT, Tue May 27, 2014

(CNN) -- In the aviation mystery which has baffled the world there is one fundamental question which continues to swirl: Has Inmarsat got its numbers right?

It was these very calculations which led the search for MH370 far from the plane's original route across South East Asia and deep into the southern Indian Ocean, off the west coast of Australia. No piece of work is more important in the search for the plane.

I was given exclusive access to the satellite experts who did the ground-breaking work. Time and again, I would ask them the toughest question: "Are you right?"

But before we get there ... How did the data come to light in the first place?

Once the plane went missing, the ground station in Perth checked the logs and discovered that while the aircraft's communications systems were switched off, the plane and the satellite still kept saying "hello" to each other, every hour.

"Having messages for six hours after the plane is lost is probably the biggest disbelief," admits Inmarsat's vice president of satellite operations Mark Dickinson.

These messages are the raw data upon which everything rests...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/27/world/asia/mh370-is-inmarsat-right-quest-analysis/index.html?hpt=hp_c2