Yes, I meant stranger abductions. Should have more careful with my choice of words.And additionally I believe that stranger abductions are very rare - that many times abductions are in cases of custody disputes.
Yes, I meant stranger abductions. Should have more careful with my choice of words.And additionally I believe that stranger abductions are very rare - that many times abductions are in cases of custody disputes.
I am slightly suspicious of the timing of the discovery after the shaman ceremony. Particularly as it seems like a mythical/magical location and she was laid peacefully down.
But they could have one of the staff translate for them, and explain the situation?There could have been a language barrier too. How on earth do you explain that your teenage Daughter is missing who is particularly vulnerable and the reasons why to someone who doesn't speak your language.
I read up about the Malaysian Shaman the other day. They use trances, rituals and spirits to seek missing persons among other things. I have a friend that’s into Shamanism so I’m familiar. I’m part Native American and they have similar cultural beliefs. It’s a big world with a long history. So I’m open to alternative spiritualism.Not A Genie. Jinn. Spirits. To be fair, this is a more folkloric aspect of Islamic belief but in Islam generally there is quite a developed belief in the supernatural - angels and demons as well as jinn. There are plenty of 'western'/Christian people who believe in angels or guardian angels imo and ime.
But wasn't there an article posted upthread, saying on average, 4 children go missing in Malaysia, every day?
I wouldn't be sitting about waiting 3 hours for the police to arrive. 1 hour. Maybe less. Then l'd be banging their door down.
Edit especially if l thought my daughter hsd been kidnapped. Those vital first hours. Nope. Would not be having that st all.
They got a taco from the airport so didn't have their own transport.
Here are most of the links from thread one....
Snipped all the quotes
And scout leaders, football coaches, pop stars, DJs, priests, and movie producers. In all countries.Stranger abductions are rare in the US, too. Fewer than 350 since 2010. That's an average of about 39 per year, which is fewer than one per state.
We all grew up learning about "stranger danger," who knew it was our own families we had to be afraid of?![]()
But wasn't there an article posted upthread, saying on average, 4 children go missing in Malaysia, every day?
Yes I remember that being stated. They had to ask for access to their accommodation early didn't they? Normally it would be from 2pm.
Interesting way to travel...
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My first thought when reading the position she was found in, was that she either laid down like that and died from exhaustion/exposure/poisonous bite, etc., or that someone who cared about her placed her that way. As some posters have stated, yes, a crazy stranger COULD do that, but statistically speaking, when placed in a “comfortable” position or covered, it’s usually someone who loved (or at least knew) them.
But my gut feeling was that she laid down that way herself. I hope things are made more clear by the post mortem results.
Wonder when and how she,met the parents?Every article says from the parents.
I don't think we can say "most places" though.I thought they told him that after the police had not arrived for a few hours.
I never read that they wouldn't call police, just that they said they would have to go to the police to report a missing child.
Anyway I guess it's not really clear.
All we know is they obviously don't have the same procedures as other countries.
Normally in most places an alert would go out immediately, describing the child, what they were wearing and emphasizing any disabilities and that the child is thought to be endangered.
They probably don't have the ability to do all that. Imo