Found Deceased MD - Rachel Morin, 37, left for walk on Ma & Pa Trail 6pm, car found at Williams St entrance, Bel Air, 5 Aug 2023 #2

[Diddian]

I have no SM so can’t view, is the arm visible?

Yes, at 0:04 - 0:05 in the video.

 

[Just K]

Not sure but I just went to watch the vid if suspect and the three I looked at no longer show the arm closing the door. Appears to have been edited.

Jmo

But too many people saw it. Comments made over the weekend and replied to, on a major network story with the video, commenting on the person escorting him out the door and almost familiarly “bidding him adieu” before shutting the door for him, have been deleted.

 

[Elley Mae]

Yes, at 0:04 - 0:05 in the video.

Thanks Diddian, I posted a short vid a few years back on fb & fb inform me that they “took” it and thanked me for it. So that ended that.

 

[x_files]

What was this perp's intent in the California incident? A robbery? Did he expect an empthy home? Why didn't he disguise himself? He knew a witness could recognize him. Did he leave his shirt behind? If the intent was an attack, it seems that the victim was compliant, which might have saved their life. Did the victim persuade him to leave, perhaps by telling him that the family would be home any minute?

Was there a different motive in the Maryland case? Did he plan to rob RM? Did he plan to kill? Why would he worry about being recognized in one but not the other case?

Perhaps this criminial isn't too bright or steals to support a drug habit. On drugs, drunk, or just dumb? Maybe all three?

 

[iamnotagolem]

But too many people saw it. Comments made over the weekend and replied to, on a major network story with the video, commenting on the person escorting him out the door and almost familiarly “bidding him adieu” before shutting the door for him, have been deleted.

Maybe because everyone is focused on the child slamming the door behind him but instead of recognizing it as what was reported there is so much speculation that the VICTIM was somehow friendly or involved with the suspect despite there being zero evidence of this. Perhaps the comments were deleted to avoid further trashing of the victim.

 

[CGBSpender]

LE must have recovered more than simply touch DNA from the Maryland crime scene, right? In other words...they wouldn't put this much out there to the public about the suspect if there was any chance that the DNA recovered from the victim was possibly touch DNA transferred by someone else at the gym that used the same piece of equipment...or someone that works in shipping consumer packages or something?

JMO

 

[CGBSpender]

Maybe because everyone is focused on the child slamming the door behind him but instead of recognizing it as what was reported there is so much speculation that the VICTIM was somehow friendly or involved with the suspect despite there being zero evidence of this. Perhaps the comments were deleted to avoid further trashing of the victim.

Possibly. For argument's sake though...

First, I thought LE said the victim was a, "young woman"...that's not necessarily a child...could be...but might not be.

Second, I don't recall there being any statements made that connect the individual closing the door as being the victim. Again, might be...but it's possible it could be someone else that lives there...or an accomplice to the crime? I'm not sure it's been said whether or not the individual is alleged to have committed that crime alone.

Third, I think the behavior of the suspect is the "evidence" that doesn't compute for people. This guy doesn't behave in a manner that one would expect from someone who just burgled a home in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the US.

JMO

 

[iamnotagolem]

Possibly. For argument's sake though...

First, I thought LE said the victim was a, "young woman"...that's not necessarily a child...could be...but might not be.

Second, I don't recall there being any statements made that connect the individual closing the door as being the victim. Again, might be...but it's possible it could be someone else that lives there...or an accomplice to the crime? I'm not sure it's been said whether or not the individual is alleged to have committed that crime alone.

Third, I think the behavior of the suspect is the "evidence" that doesn't compute for people. This guy doesn't behave in a manner that one would expect from someone who just burgled a home in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the US.

JMO

The man suspected of killing a Maryland woman on a popular hiking trail this month is the same person who assaulted a young girl in Southern California in the spring, according to DNA results, investigators announced Thursday.

Suspect in Rachel Morin's death on Maryland trail linked to LA assault by DNA, police say

DNA from the the person who likely killed Rachel Morin on a Maryland trail matched that of a man who assaulted a girl in LA in March, police say.

www.usatoday.com

Edit: hit reply too soon, That ^ should answer your first. Secondly, no there is not confirmation that the small arm slamming the door is the victim, but I'll assume it is until we're told otherwise. Granted that's a risk on my end that i'm willing to take. Third, I don't know why the video doesn't compute as a burglar leaving. If he broke in when no one was home, then was surprised by a young girl who arrived and left with shirt & shoes in hand, to me that makes sense. She was scared, didn't know what he was there for, he just left but not before leaving DNA and in some way assaulting the poor child.

 

[Just K]

Maybe because everyone is focused on the child slamming the door behind him but instead of recognizing it as what was reported there is so much speculation that the VICTIM was somehow friendly or involved with the suspect despite there being zero evidence of this. Perhaps the comments were deleted to avoid further trashing of the victim.

We don’t know if that’s the victim or an accomplice.

 

[OldCop]

I’ve watched the video too many times. I’ll take a guess at what I think I may be seeing. I do think it is a youngish female, maybe 12-16. I’m projecting here of course, but I see anger or perhaps defiance. She does seem to be handing him something, almost slapping it at him, then slams the door.
If he was strung out, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that he got into the house somehow and was attempting to steal, but simply became exhausted, took off his shirt and shoes and lied down somewhere; a couch or a bedroom. She may have been in another room or came home to find him there and, if she was a strong/brave young lady, yelled “What are you doing here? Get out!”. It is said to be a tough neighborhood and this victim may have had street smarts and bravado that she acquired by virtue of her daily life.
A scenario that went something like that would explain both the home invasion and assault, (not sexual), charges.

 

[iamnotagolem]

We don’t know if that’s the victim or an accomplice.

So the accomplice lives at the house, the suspect burgled the home of his accomplice, the accomplice slams the door as he leaves, and LE can't identify him? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

 

[Just K]

So the accomplice lives at the house, the suspect burgled the home of his accomplice, the accomplice slams the door as he leaves, and LE can't identify him? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

It’s possible a young person helped him into the house and the owners or someone returned unexpectedly- maybe a young girl walked in on something and maybe this dude and the person shutting the door threatened the girl. It’s a possibility since the police said the assault was not sexual in nature.

 

[Stunned]

All we need to know is that whatever happened in that house was serious enough to collect DNA that will hopefully help solve who killed Rachel and prevent other crimes!

 

[jjenny]

Possibly. For argument's sake though...

First, I thought LE said the victim was a, "young woman"...that's not necessarily a child...could be...but might not be.

Second, I don't recall there being any statements made that connect the individual closing the door as being the victim. Again, might be...but it's possible it could be someone else that lives there...or an accomplice to the crime? I'm not sure it's been said whether or not the individual is alleged to have committed that crime alone.

Third, I think the behavior of the suspect is the "evidence" that doesn't compute for people. This guy doesn't behave in a manner that one would expect from someone who just burgled a home in one of the most dangerous neighborhoods in the US.

JMO

No, the victim was called a young girl.

 

[CGBSpender]

The man suspected of killing a Maryland woman on a popular hiking trail this month is the same person who assaulted a young girl in Southern California in the spring, according to DNA results, investigators announced Thursday.

Suspect in Rachel Morin's death on Maryland trail linked to LA assault by DNA, police say

DNA from the the person who likely killed Rachel Morin on a Maryland trail matched that of a man who assaulted a girl in LA in March, police say.

www.usatoday.com

Edit: hit reply too soon, That ^ should answer your first. Secondly, no there is not confirmation that the small arm slamming the door is the victim, but I'll assume it is until we're told otherwise. Granted that's a risk on my end that i'm willing to take. Third, I don't know why the video doesn't compute as a burglar leaving. If he broke in when no one was home, then was surprised by a young girl who arrived and left with shirt & shoes in hand, to me that makes sense. She was scared, didn't know what he was there for, he just left but not before leaving DNA and in some way assaulting the poor child.

WMAR Baltimore used the term, "young woman"...that's where I saw it. Clear as mud lol.
See: 'We want to know more': Release of suspect video connected to Rachel Morin case raises questions

Assuming the time is correct on the LA crime map for the incident near that location on that date...it took place at or near 3:20AM. Seems odd that it wouldn't be an adult at the door...albeit young perhaps, given the time....maybe young girl/woman was a babysitter?

I've seen people say he was carrying shoes, but I don't see it. LAPD called it a "hot burglary" so that would mean that the suspect entered when people were already in the home.

JMO

 

[x_files]

All of this LA Hot Prowl is as clear as MUD to me.
Something happened the suspect left DNA of some sort at the house, blood, saliva, fingerprints? bodily fluids? Used the restroom?/DNA touch?
The video footage is extremely confusing.
I am assuming the young victim closed the door. Maybe she was brave and she managed to trick him into leaving.
Maybe she said my big brother, dad is on their way with a gun or they are tough to fill in the blank or a cop to scare him off?
It all very confusing to me!

 

[imstilla.grandma]

“We believe this was a person that Rachel didn’t know, potentially a random act of violence,” Davis said, according to The Baltimore Banner. “We know nothing more about him other than he was in L.A. in March and we believe him to be the murderer.”

Rachel Morin Murder Suspect Linked to LA Home Invasion and Child’s Assault

Investigators now believe Morin did not know her killer, who is suspected to have also broken into a home in Los Angeles and assaulted a young girl in March.

www.thedailybeast.com

 

[bestill]

We can only hope that one of the tips that came in since the LA video was released will lead to finding this guy. I don't think knowing anything else about the LA home crime is going to help us on WS. I am wondering if this guy even knows that he's being looked for? He could be on the move from one area to another and not keeping up with news. JMO

 

[Ontario Mom]

We can only hope that one of the tips that came in since the LA video was released will lead to finding this guy. I don't think knowing anything else about the LA home crime is going to help us on WS. I am wondering if this guy even knows that he's being looked for? He could be on the move from one area to another and not keeping up with news. JMO

My guess would be, if you killed someone, it's reasonable to assume LE would be looking for you, even if they don't know it's you, that they're looking for.

Considering he traveled from California to Maryland in the last 6 months, I would agree he may very well be on the move.

I think the only reason so many seem to be stuck on that video, is because initially it was reported as a home invasion and/or assault, and it looks like he's very, very casually leaving the home, saying his goodbyes, etc. We don't know how he got in, who's house it is, what actually took place inside the home, or even what he was saying as he was leaving. We're missing a lot of context for that scene but at the end of the day none of it even matters since we do know what he's capable of, unfortunately.

jmo

 

[lonetraveler]

Last weekend my daughter took me to the beach for my birthday. This beach is Surf City, NC. Camp Lejeune is only a few miles down the road and lots of Marines were on the beach. Their haircuts looked a lot like this guy's hair. California has a naval base, Maryland has a Naval base. Could he be in the Navy? Never mind, if they have DNA then they would already have his name wouldn't they?

ETA; JMO but his body style also appeared to look a lot like the young Marines who were on the beach. I stared at them a lot thinking about this case of course, LOL.