Mexico - Kaleo Skye, 3 & Roxy Rain 10 mos, killed by dad, Rosarito, 10 Aug 2021 *arrest in CA*

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Yes, and LE already divulged he said he knew what he did was wrong, I'm sure they have that on tape.
It's very hard to get a judge to approve an insanity defense, even when the suspect's lawyer has a psychologist supporting the diagnosis, the prosecution always has one, or more, to dispute it.

If believing in Q conspiracies is proof one is insane, as @gitana1 pointed out, 1 in 5 Americans believe in QAnon, that's almost seven million people who would have a license to kill due to insanity.

Study finds that nearly one-in-five Americans believe QAnon conspiracy theories

Yeah. However, while I do think it’s a crazy conspiracy and people have issues if they believe it, I think there’s a difference between those who believe something crazy and those who are seriously mentally ill. The thing is, mentally ill people can be made more ill by belief. Even by beliefs in regular religions.

What’s scary about Q-Anon is that we have mainstream government officials endorsing it or following it. And so that lends credence to the theory. And at the same time, it’s about children being victimized. So that ends up creating a sense of urgency. Imagine what happens when a truly mentally ill person gets vested in it.

I do think this man is mentally ill. Psychotic. He confessed it quickly. Psychotic killers often do, while psychopathic killers like to try to get away with it.

Someone said he’s old for this to be emerging schizophrenia but that’s on out one source of psychosis. Lack of sleep and dehydration are typically what causes someone to become psychotic. That can happen due to schizophrenia, mania, dementia, or even overwork.
 
Those sweet babies are beautiful. What in the heck happened here? Could he have become so severely mentally ill so quickly or is that just fake?

I think it’s real. He probably was able to keep it to himself. There would be no motivation I can see for him to murder his kids in Mexico, and then confess it, while pretending to be crazy. A finding of insanity would not result in his freedom.
 
I was discussing this with hubs tonight. How in the world can people believe this stuff? It's literally insane ... 1 in 5 people? It's shocking and sad to see the progression- from posting scripture, believing his kids were a gift from God, to the unspeakable acts he committed. Clearly an undiagnosed mental health crisis.

I'm heartbroken for AC, I'm not sure how you recover from this level of horror.

I don’t think you can. I would want to die myself.
 
A very good friend of ours and one my friend's husband have been both taken in by Q. They are both very smart men who you would never in a million years think would be brainwashed by this kind of cultish thinking. We no longer really hang with them because they bring Q into every conversation and try to tell us that we are no being open minded and that we are being brainwashed by MSM and that we need to watch this one video on YouTube....

Oof. It’s so strange!
 
QAnon-obsessed California dad, 40, fatally shot two children with a spearfishing gun | Daily Mail Online "In another post that bears some similarity to the anti-establishment ethos of QAnon, Coleman says he is 'convinced at some point in our lives we will accumulate enough valid evidence for why we should stop trusting our government officials, bosses, coworkers, church, family and friends'.

He says doing so is a 'doorway to experiencing the most liberating reality on earth'."

...I saw this post on his FB too. That SCREAMS who he was and where his mind was. It is one thing to say 'stop trusting government officials'- as I hear this ALL the time from people saying the MSM runs the world, etc. but stop trusting your friends and FAMILY?? This is just yuckey. It was posted in 9/2017, it appears after he had already married his wife and gone on their honeymoon. This coincides with after Trump was elected and the conspiracy theories and that type of anti-establishment thinking began to dominate.
Thank You, @dogmom805. Oh my, September of 2017, the newly wed was already posting about conspiracy theories. His wife must've been somewhat aware of his position to some extent. I'm really worried she may start assuming some responsibility for not seeing he was becoming dangerous. It sounds like he already had issues before she married him. She couldn't control his thoughts, and none of this is her fault. Keeping her in my thoughts and prayers.

"...He says doing so is a 'doorway to experiencing the most liberating reality on earth'."

IMO, he's exhausting always striving for some beyond mind blowing experience or special calling. He was always somewhat grandiose.
This is JMO, or struggling thoughts to understand-- It's like he took some of the Bible and mixed it in and manipulated it into taking Q action against his children. I think he chose to stab his children because it matched more closely with Abraham almost killing his son. Genesis 22:1-19. He may have even thought he had God's blessing to do so because they were in his mind monsters. Like I said, strictly MOO and speculations.
 
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Many of them have a lot of guns too, and I'm not talking about spearfishing guns, guns with big clips to fire multiple rounds. Legally.
They've prepared for the insurrection, or the lizard people, or the pizza parlors, whatever..

Yes, and so do alot of people in Philadelphia including very young people. Babies get caught in the crossfire. Babies as young as these gorgeous victims at the hands of their father. Does anybody care? We're not Santa Barbra.

Every single night or day we have murdered young people. Every single day.

This guy had a spear fishing weapon. If he was soooo connected he'd have fire power. The people with "big weapons" here they got through straw purchases or the back of a trunk. Maybe a baby's momma or two.

My heart hurts for these gorgeous children. My heart can not know how their lovely mother feels or at this point I hope she can't feel. One man. The murderer of his own children. Insane? A con? Conspiracy theorist? I dare not lay an arsenal on this man nor blame conspiracy theories.

Surely he will be evaluated several times over.
 
Yes, and so do alot of people in Philadelphia including very young people. Babies get caught in the crossfire. Babies as young as these gorgeous victims at the hands of their father. Does anybody care? We're not Santa Barbra.

Every single night or day we have murdered young people. Every single day.

This guy had a spear fishing weapon. If he was soooo connected he'd have fire power. The people with "big weapons" here they got through straw purchases or the back of a trunk. Maybe a baby's momma or two.

My heart hurts for these gorgeous children. My heart can not know how their lovely mother feels or at this point I hope she can't feel. One man. The murderer of his own children. Insane? A con? Conspiracy theorist? I dare not lay an arsenal on this man nor blame conspiracy theories.

Surely he will be evaluated several times over.
Yeah, all forms of media obsess over the wealthy and their dysfunction, Reality TV has made millions off of it.
I've never really understood the attraction, the entire Kardashian family made multi millions allowing people to watch how messed up they are.
Maybe it makes people feel better to think, I may not be rich but I'm still better off than those people.
Also, this case has Qanon which gets a lot of media attention.
 
Left them in a ditch....
Thank You, @dogmom805. Oh my, September of 2017, the newly wed was already posting about conspiracy theories. His wife must've been somewhat aware of his position to some extent. I'm really worried she may start assuming some responsibility for not seeing he was becoming dangerous. It sounds like he already had issues before she married him. She couldn't control his thoughts, and none of this is her fault. Keeping her in my thoughts and prayers.

"...He says doing so is a 'doorway to experiencing the most liberating reality on earth'."

IMO, he's exhausting always striving for some beyond mind blowing experience or special calling. He was always somewhat grandiose.
This is JMO, or struggling thoughts to understand-- It's like he took some of the Bible and mixed it in and manipulated it into taking Q action against his children. I think he chose to stab his children because it matched more closely with Abraham almost killing his son. Genesis 22:1-19. He may have even thought he had God's blessing to do so because they were in his mind monsters. Like I said, strictly MOO and speculations.

I wonder if he didn’t like the fact that his wife did not share his beliefs. That may have angered him and so he decided she had the “serpent DNA” and therefore, their children did too. IMO
 
Here's What Happened in the Case of a Santa Barbara Father Accused of Killing His Kids in Mexico

Aug 14, 2021

According to a federal complaint, Coleman admitted to the brutal killing of his two children in a Mirandaed interview, where he referenced conspiracy theories from QAnon and the Illuminati.

[..]

"Serpent DNA" is an apparent reference to the "lizard people" conspiracy theory, which falsely purports that reptilian aliens secretly run the world and have taken over important positions in government, banking and Hollywood, according to NBC News

[..]

During the interview, Coleman referenced QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories, the complaint said. He said he was receiving visions that his wife possessed serpent DNA and had passed it on to his children.

When asked whether he knew what he did was wrong, Coleman told authorities that he did "but it was the only course of action to save the world."

[..]

Coleman made his first court appearance at the U.S. District Court in downtown Los Angeles. He was ordered detained by a federal judge and is in custody. He is scheduled to be arraigned on charges on Aug. 31.

Timeline at the link
 
I think it’s real. He probably was able to keep it to himself. There would be no motivation I can see for him to murder his kids in Mexico, and then confess it, while pretending to be crazy. A finding of insanity would not result in his freedom.
Your previous post reminds us that a lot of psychotic killers confess, does a diagnosis of psychosis and a guilt by insanity conviction always result in containment in a mental health facility rather than prison?
And how does a mental health conviction work, is it true that they are freed if they recover with treatment and medication?
I think most people see a mental health facility as better than someplace like Corcoran, even though one loses their freedom either way.
They probably at least have better food and bedding, and less gangs, but I don't really know.
 
Here's What Happened in the Case of a Santa Barbara Father Accused of Killing His Kids in Mexico

Aug 14, 2021

According to a federal complaint, Coleman admitted to the brutal killing of his two children in a Mirandaed interview, where he referenced conspiracy theories from QAnon and the Illuminati.

[..]

"Serpent DNA" is an apparent reference to the "lizard people" conspiracy theory, which falsely purports that reptilian aliens secretly run the world and have taken over important positions in government, banking and Hollywood, according to NBC News

[..]

During the interview, Coleman referenced QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories, the complaint said. He said he was receiving visions that his wife possessed serpent DNA and had passed it on to his children.

When asked whether he knew what he did was wrong, Coleman told authorities that he did "but it was the only course of action to save the world."

[..]

Coleman made his first court appearance at the U.S. District Court in downtown Los Angeles. He was ordered detained by a federal judge and is in custody. He is scheduled to be arraigned on charges on Aug. 31.

Timeline at the link
Even if you believe in the lizard people, how will killing a couple of little kids save us if they already "secretly run the world and have taken over important positions in government, banking, (and Hollywood)".
I guess that's a question for the FBI, they would know since obviously they are also reptilian aliens.
 
California man charged with killing his children claimed he was ‘enlightened by QAnon’, FBI says

This QAnon article has a kidnapping link that cites the QAnon origin at 2017.

They generally suggest parents kidnap their children to protect them. In Coleman's case, he kidnapped his children to kill them.

Perhaps he's confused about his enlightenment? I think he's seriously impaired and probably not welcome by the true QAnon. :eek:

I think I need to stop trying to make sense of the senseless. MOO
 
in my experience, its "all for the gram". some ppl who are "smart, charismatic, well liked" really are jerks and creeps. the husband of a close family member is a total cretin, but they have a huge tik tok following thinking they are some family success story. i learned from that, that if things seem that awesome online, its sus.

True story aside: one of my kid sister's best friends had an offer from some women's lifestyle mag to do an article on her life "doing and having it all by herself" (at the time, the friend in question had twins and some type of moderately successful Etsy store, as well as some type of connection as the grandparents were wealthy). Friend prettily demurred the chance at being the feature article, saying "Actually I get a lot of help with the twins from my mother; so it wouldn't exactly be honest of me to do so." It was a real nudge and reminder for me to second-guess and side-eye these stories a lot more than I do when they appear, as I wondered how many people would have accepted the article and the lies inherent in it.
 
That's what I was thinking. If she totally trusted him and knew they would be safe, she would not have called the cops. Leaving like that must have been out of character. But then I think-- she also may have thought since he wasn't answering his phone that perhaps they were in a horrible car accident. So that was the main worry about safety. Also, the daughter was only 10 months old--- was she still breastfeeding? Did he take formula and necessary supplies for a camping trip with two young toddlers? We already know the van didn't have enough car seats.

I think she reacted completely logically with the iPhone tracking; because she certainly wasn't expecting to be abandoned in the middle of a process where the husband originally had planned on taking her. It's not like you riding a horse in a pasture, and then all of a sudden a bee stings your horse and he takes off like a bat out of hell; if he's run off with the vehicle and children voluntarily, IMO there are only a very small number of logical or benign excuses for this behavior; and the illogical ones would be worse and required intervention sooner (someone holding a gun to his head and carjacking him, etc.?). IMO, once you finished thinking things like "Did his appendix burst instantaneously? Did he see a fire?", you'd know there was no plausible excuse and get right to worrying.

During the interview, Coleman referenced QAnon and Illuminati conspiracy theories, the complaint said. He said he was receiving visions that his wife possessed serpent DNA and had passed it on to his children.

When asked whether he knew what he did was wrong, Coleman told authorities that he did "but it was the only course of action to save the world."

...Yeah, he's lost it, colloquially and IMO.

As someone else asked upthread, what threat to the future of the world could a toddler and a lap baby possibly present? Clearly he had some sort of a breakdown, even if the breakdown at least involved some sort of rationalization about how it was better to kill the "threats" now than to get further attached to them before they were old enough to do or be the damage, or similar.
 
A Theory About Conspiracy Theories
Sept. 28, 2020

>>>snip
More than 1 in 3 Americans believe that the Chinese government engineered the coronavirus as a weapon, and another third are convinced that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has exaggerated the threat of Covid-19 to undermine President Trump.
...

In the most comprehensive analysis to date of people who are prone to conspiracy beliefs, a research team in Atlanta sketched out several personality profiles that appear to be distinct. One is familiar: the injustice collector, impulsive and overconfident, who is eager to expose naïveté in everyone but him- or herself. Another is less so: a more solitary, anxious figure, moody and detached, perhaps including many who are older and living alone. The analysis also found, at the extremes, an element of real pathology — of a “personality disorder,” in the jargon of psychiatry...

...— a pattern of thinking called “psychoticism.”

Psychoticism is a core feature of so-called schizo-typal personality disorder, characterized in part by “odd beliefs and magical thinking” and “paranoid ideation.” In the language of psychiatry, it is a milder form of full-blown psychosis, the recurrent delusional state that characterizes schizophrenia. It’s a pattern of magical thinking that goes well beyond garden variety superstition and usually comes across socially as disjointed, uncanny or “off...”
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California man charged with killing his children claimed he was ‘enlightened by QAnon’, FBI says

This QAnon article has a kidnapping link that cites the QAnon origin at 2017.

They generally suggest parents kidnap their children to protect them. In Coleman's case, he kidnapped his children to kill them.

Perhaps he's confused about his enlightenment? I think he's seriously impaired and probably not welcome by the true QAnon. :eek:

I think I need to stop trying to make sense of the senseless. MOO
He is confused. The thing about the reptilians, is, we're supposed to forgive them, to love them, as they are really just another, if wayward, part of The One. As are we all, including politicians and movie stars. Yes, we should unmask them, but they play an essential role in the eternal struggle between light and dark. They are yin to our yang, necessary and beloved, and only love can heal them. Trust that the universe knows what it is doing, and soon our understanding of the Truth will be complete.

The murder of innocent children only strengthens reptilians.
I'm serious. I read the book. Books. I never drank the kool-aid. It's nonsense, of course, IMO. But no less real for that.
 
I think it’s real. He probably was able to keep it to himself. There would be no motivation I can see for him to murder his kids in Mexico, and then confess it, while pretending to be crazy. A finding of insanity would not result in his freedom.

I really want to know why he chose Mexico...Was it the Christian camp? Normally I would think because it was part of his plan/intent to commit a crime.

I also want to go back to the box/Car seat...I'm wondering if he stopped along the way to buy a car seat, and that's why we see he has one in Mexico. If he did, why?
 
^^bbm

According to the criminal complaint (Case No. 2:21-mj-03722 filed 8/11/21 in Central District CA), his wife (AC) first contacted LE on 8/7 but not to report MC and the kids missing, but to ask LE to try and reach him by phone because he wasn't answering calls/texts from his wife and/or family.

AC said they were supposed to go camping together but he MC left alone with the children-- not telling her where he was going. At this time, AC seemed more worried that MC left without the car seat. When dispatch offered to send an officer to her home, she declined further assistance -- stating she was not in danger, did not believe the children were in danger, and that MC would not hurt the kids.

It wasn't until the following day on 8/8, not having reached or heard from MC, that she contacted LE again-- this time to report them missing. When an officer came to their home to take the report, AC provided there was no argument and she had no problems with her husband. Officer asked if AC could use "Find my iPhone App" to locate MC and she used agreed and used her laptop. At this time the iPhone app provided MC's last location was reported at Pabellon, Rosarito, Rosarito Baja California, Mexico (open-air shopping center) at 2:24 pm.

On August 9, LE found him again (using iPhone app) approaching the San Ysidro Port of Entry where he was referred to Secondary Inspection, where the FBI was waiting for MC, and also took possession of his Mercedes Sprinter van (about 1 pm).

Confirming the children were not with MC, authorities contacted Mexican liaison partners and learned 2 children matching the description of the Coleman children had been located deceased around 8 AM on 8/9 in a ditch.

yea I read all of that, but I personally believe she was more worried than she admitted
 
I wonder if the miscarriage* that occurred between the births of the two recently murdered children might play a role in the “serpent DNA” beliefs?

*My knowledge they suffered miscarriage came from his own words in an online review he posted Oct 2020 (after their baby girl was born). I would gladly post a screenshot but SM posts are against TOS, correct?
 
yea I read all of that, but I personally believe she was more worried than she admitted
And I think she is more involved then she’s admitting.
Her 1st call to LE claiming he took the kids without telling her where he was going, forgot a car seat, and she’s not able to reach him by phone, but not to come over because “she’s not in danger and that he wouldn’t hurt the kids.” That to me is odd. Why would you even say that? You either KNOW your husband and kids are alright together and will be back OR you SUSPECT something could be very wrong.
I don’t know what time of day she called LE on 8/7 and 8/8, but if they weren’t home by nighttime, I’d have them at my house starting an investigation. JMO
 

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