GUILTY MI - Chelsea Bruck, 22, Frenchtown Twp, 26 Oct 2014 #4

[monster12]

They often have these in our area especially near work sites or train yard. Simply a truck on a track.


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[GigTu]

The remains were found in a wooded area about 75 yards off a newly constructed dirt road that runs along a set of railroad tracks off Briar Hill Rd. south of E. Newburg Rd. The low- lying, swampy area is being filled with dirt to prepare for the construction of a house. (Story continued below photo gallery) ...

http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/apr/25/female-remains-found-experts-determine-if-identity/

This guy never once expected a house to be built out there. I can't believe anyone would want to live in there. It doesn't seem like a very attractive location, and so close to the tracks is an odd choice. But I digress, if sketchy guy has enough sense to watch the news, no doubt he is one nervous fool right about now.

I think it's very possible for pretty much any car to get out there unnoticed, from the freeway side (if there's a break in the guard rail), or Briar Hill. And it's not too too far in from the tracks side-road for someone to have wrestled a sweet girl's body in. However, I agree it's possible that more than one perp was involved at that point. In that case, there's a couple of nervous fellas probably planning a meeting to secure their alibi.

If they drove through in a loop somehow, most likely any homes nearby were full of sleeping, unaware people. However, if they turned around to get back to Briar Hill Road, they made a mess and possibly noise, and there might be evidence of that.

About the site where her leafy top was found, if you grew up in an area that had abandoned buildings in an abandoned field, and you were still young enough to not predict future construction or curious hikers, etc., you might think that field was a perfect drop site for evidence, thinking no one would ever ever go up there. Just sayin'.

 

[Ibiz]

Given that much of the ground area in southeastern lower Michigan was snow-covered, if not frozen, for several months this past winter, I wonder if tire tracks were noticed in the search area where the body was found? When I saw/heard the report about an evidence bag being so heavy that it took two people to remove it from the scene, I immediately thought that it could have been dirt with tire tracks/treads. This would provide excellent evidence about the type of vehicle that might have been used to transport the body to the dumping site.

Betty: They usually just use a little dental plaster to gather tire impressions. I did not see the big heavy evidence bag, but maybe that was the remains that you saw.

I don't rember how cold it was in October/November, but the rest of the winter was pretty cold. So I don't think the remains could have been that decomposed.

 

[GigTu]

They may have also collected dirt.

 

[rosesfromangels]

Betty: They usually just use a little dental plaster to gather tire impressions. I did not see the big heavy evidence bag, but maybe that was the remains that you saw.

I don't rember how cold it was in October/November, but the rest of the winter was pretty cold. So I don't think the remains could have been that decomposed.

It was in one of the news clips; it took two guys to carry it.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Betty: They usually just use a little dental plaster to gather tire impressions. I did not see the big heavy evidence bag, but maybe that was the remains that you saw.

I don't rember how cold it was in October/November, but the rest of the winter was pretty cold. So I don't think the remains could have been that decomposed.

A female "body" was reportedly found, so I don't think bones were scattered or the skeleton not intact. I've never seen human remains removed from a crime scene in compost bags Dirt in the area of a body might yield clues other than tire tracks/treads. Here's the video report where you see the two investigators handling the heavy bag. I doubt it contains human remains.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/construction-workers-find-body-in-rural-monroe-county/32554676

 

[GGE]

PS in case anyone was wondering what a "track truck" is -

 

[rosesfromangels]

PS in case anyone was wondering what a "track truck" is -

Thanks GGE! I had no idea what this was.
Folks - this is one heck a clue.....

 

[Hound_Dog]

It would be interesting to know if the remains were buried - would it not imply guilt.
Also, in my reading I read the MEN article in which RK says,
"Earlier this month investigators recovered parts of Ms. Bruck’s Poison Ivy costume she wore at that party. The parts of the costume were found at an abandoned industrial site off Peters Rd. south of Van Horn Rd. near Flat Rock, or about 10 miles northeast of where the human remains were found Friday."

- this is first time I've read confirmation that items found in Flat Rock were connected to CB - Did I miss this when did they anounce the connection?

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/apr/25/female-remains-found-experts-determine-if-identity/

 

[GGE]

Thanks GGE! I had no idea what this was.
Folks - this is one heck a clue.....

Thank YOU. When I was actively working on Chelsea's case a couple of months ago I thought it odd that I made a huge deal out of pulling up alongside one of these to show my daughter the track wheels and to explain that this truck, driving down the road next to us near WalMart, could also put down those little wheels and go on train tracks. She didn't even notice the smaller wheels until I pointed them out, but most adults would notice them and wonder what they were for. I only knew because of Kyron Hormon's case.. that boy needs to come home as well. lease:

 

[monster12]

A female "body" was reportedly found, so I don't think bones were scattered or the skeleton not intact. I've never seen human remains removed from a crime scene in compost bags Dirt in the area of a body might yield clues other than tire tracks/treads. Here's the video report where you see the two investigators handling the heavy bag. I doubt it contains human remains.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/construction-workers-find-body-in-rural-monroe-county/32554676

Just watched the clip. The bag didn't look big enough for a body nor was it a body bag. I highly doubt they throw bodies in a brown paper looking bag and carry it one handed. It seemed the other bags they were carrying were lighter and that one was a little heavier. I would imagine the officer carrying it could have carried it alone but he was also carrying other bags. Reminded me of a bag of dirt like posted above that you can't get a good grip of.

I'm sure this has been posted but I can't find a definite answer. One report I read said someone was digging but another said they were just clearing land and hit the body? Does anyone know if it was somewhat buried or just on top of the ground? Then I read they were filling a swampy hole with dirt?


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[GigTu]

PS in case anyone was wondering what a "track truck" is -

The likelihood that someone had access to a track truck is pretty slim. But it's awesome to see so much thinking outside the box. Is they site they are searching within a reasonable distance of where they store such a truck? Does a track maintenance worker's son resemble sketchy guy?

We know this started with sketchy guy. And since he hasn't been forthcoming, this will probably also end with sketchy guy. And the sketch is of a young person.

It seems much more likely that they just came off of Bar Hill road and drove the gravel path down to the location.

 

[GGE]

BBM

It would be interesting to know if the remains were buried - would it not imply guilt.
Also, in my reading I read the MEN article in which RK says,
"Earlier this month investigators recovered parts of Ms. Bruck’s Poison Ivy costume she wore at that party. The parts of the costume were found at an abandoned industrial site off Peters Rd. south of Van Horn Rd. near Flat Rock, or about 10 miles northeast of where the human remains were found Friday."

- this is first time I've read confirmation that items found in Flat Rock were connected to CB - Did I miss this when did they anounce the connection?

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2015/apr/25/female-remains-found-experts-determine-if-identity/

Wow!! That's the fisrt I've seen them confirm it WAS a leaf from her costume!! PRAYING they got someone's DNA off that, besides Chelsea!!

 

[GGE]

The likelihood that someone had access to a track truck is pretty slim. But it's awesome to see so much thinking outside the box. Is they site they are searching within a reasonable distance of where they store such a truck? Does a track maintenance worker's son resemble sketchy guy?

We know this started with sketchy guy. And since he hasn't been forthcoming, this will probably also end with sketchy guy. And the sketch is of a young person.

It seems much more likely that they just came off of Bar Hill road and drove the gravel path down to the location.

I don't know about truck storage, around here the town workers just drive the town trucks for work and on days they need to go down the tracks htey lower those particular wheels. But the trucks are used for all kinds of other things as well, and I don't know if possibly workers can take them home at night. A great many people bring home their police and fire vehicles home overnight in my rural area (parking them so that they seem to be policing the road so that people drive slower a they go by, which always cracks me up but heck why not?), but I have no idea about Chelsea's.

 

[GigTu]

It would be interesting to know if the remains were buried - would it not imply guilt.

I doubt it, only because when the dump truck driver jumped out to fix something, he spotted her.

 

[Ibiz]

A female "body" was reportedly found, so I don't think bones were scattered or the skeleton not intact. I've never seen human remains removed from a crime scene in compost bags Dirt in the area of a body might yield clues other than tire tracks/treads. Here's the video report where you see the two investigators handling the heavy bag. I doubt it contains human remains.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/construction-workers-find-body-in-rural-monroe-county/32554676

It wouldn't surprise me with some dirt was taken. Maybe for soil decomposition testing. This could possibly tell how long the remains had been there. I just didn't think they were digging up tire tracks.

 

[GigTu]

I don't know about truck storage, around here the town workers just drive the town trucks for work and on days they need to go down the tracks htey lower those particular wheels. But the trucks are used for all kinds of other things as well, and I don't know if possibly workers can take them home at night. A great many people bring home their police and fire vehicles home overnight in my rural area (parking them so that they seem to be policing the road so that people drive slower a they go by, which always cracks me up but heck why not?), but I have no idea about Chelsea's.

Thanks.

Not questioning the plausibility, but why wrestle a track truck when the gravel path is so wide and easily accessible for pretty much any mommy's car?

 

[MOsborne05]

Betty: They usually just use a little dental plaster to gather tire impressions. I did not see the big heavy evidence bag, but maybe that was the remains that you saw.

I don't rember how cold it was in October/November, but the rest of the winter was pretty cold. So I don't think the remains could have been that decomposed.

We had our first freeze around the 10th of November (Toledo area) and it didn't really let up until recently. Depending on when the body was dumped, there could be tracks. But if the body was kept somewhere else and then dumped, like the Flat Rock site, then the ground may have already been frozen. I only remember this because I ordered apple trees around Halloween and they didn't get here until mid November and by then it was already too late to plant.

 

[GGE]

Thanks.

Not questioning the plausibility, but why wrestle a track truck when the gravel path is so wide and easily accessible for pretty much any mommy's car?

I don't disagree with your line of thinking. But when rosesfromangels was wondering how could someone get her body where it was, if the road which the dump truck got stuck in the mud on was only JUST constructed, my first thought was "someone in a Jeep or other off-road vehicle" and my second thought was "track truck". Since otehrs mentioned the off-road connection, I mentioned the track truck connection. This way it's out there. But I do agree with you, I think someone put it in 4wd and took trails to get there, personally. Google earth is great for spotting those. I haven't tried.

 

[Green-Eyed Blonde]

Given that much of the ground area in southeastern lower Michigan was snow-covered, if not frozen, for several months this past winter, I wonder if tire tracks were noticed in the search area where the body was found? When I saw/heard the report about an evidence bag being so heavy that it took two people to remove it from the scene, I immediately thought that it could have been dirt with tire tracks/treads. This would provide excellent evidence about the type of vehicle that might have been used to transport the body to the dumping site.

Bette Davis: may I ask where you found out about the evidence bag being so heavy? That gives me hope there is a lot of evidence to check out and the perp/s charged.