MI MI - Danielle Stislicki, 28, Southfield, 2 Dec 2016 #7

[GigTu]

Security guard's home searched in hunt for missing Michigan woman

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/0...-home-in-hunt-for-missing-michigan-woman.html

Even though I've pretty much given up on them finding her anytime soon, I came across this article the other day on the Fox News website. It may or may not have been posted already, but since it was new to me, it gets posted again. I've highlighted the part that was of interest and may help to answer some questions. It appears that FG was not working at Metlife the day of her disappearance, or even a month prior, according to this.

So............rumors about her talking to him before leaving work that day ? Doubtful.

Rumors about her and him getting too chummy at work ? Probably not true.

Chances that he pulled up behind her after she got home from work that day ? Why not ?

Chances he used a ruse or a fake emergency to get her into his car ? Sure, why not ?

Would she have been alarmed when he pulled up and motioned her over ? Probably not.

Could he have pulled this same scam in the parking lot at Metlife, where no videos were present ? Sure.

Thanks Steelman. So the first enigmatic comment is as relevant as ever... Only with a twist. We don't need to know who took her, or from where. Just why?

 

[GigTu]

FWIW, as of today, Backpage.com was forced to shutdown its Adult section... small victory I suppose.

For real? YaY

From the backpage information it says "It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children and to arrest and successfully prosecute the pimps who prostitute children.” She added, “The ability to search for and track potentially exploited children on a website and have the website bend over backwards to help and cooperate with police the way Backpage did was totally unique. It not only made law enforcement's job easier, it made them much more effective at rescuing kids and convicting pimps.”

Such BS. I'm so glad it's gone. Now, what will the next one be called?

 

[monkeypants]

For real? YaY

From the backpage information it says "It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children and to arrest and successfully prosecute the pimps who prostitute children.” She added, “The ability to search for and track potentially exploited children on a website and have the website bend over backwards to help and cooperate with police the way Backpage did was totally unique. It not only made law enforcement's job easier, it made them much more effective at rescuing kids and convicting pimps.”

Such BS. I'm so glad it's gone. Now, what will the next one be called?

Give it 24 hours and the next one will take its place

 

[2Hope4]

I still think DS told her friend about the SG.... whatever that relationship was.

Maybe the case of Heather Elvis is framing that thinking, I don't know. But Heather called a friend and told she had been contacted by her ex bf, who was a married man, and he wanted to meet Heather. Eventually Heather did meet him that night, and has never been seen since.

I just feel a friend of almost 3 decades would know. I don't know many people that have a friend for that long that they speak to frequently and see frequently and they don't share things with.

 

[crhedBngr]

WXYZ channel 7 Detroit at 11pm tonight. I saw it advertised on their station today. DS was the first picture they showed. But it sounds like many victims with be part of the story.

Does anyone have the link to this?

Thanks.

 

[missgulfsouth]

For real? YaY

From the backpage information it says "It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children and to arrest and successfully prosecute the pimps who prostitute children.” She added, “The ability to search for and track potentially exploited children on a website and have the website bend over backwards to help and cooperate with police the way Backpage did was totally unique. It not only made law enforcement's job easier, it made them much more effective at rescuing kids and convicting pimps.”

Such BS. I'm so glad it's gone. Now, what will the next one be called?

Sometimes I really hate humanity.

 

[Vresia]

The Oxford address is wrong in this thread.

That was me- a typo that I missed. When I finally realized I had typed the wrong address it was too late to edit.

 

[Lmustang89]

Does anyone have the link to this?

Thanks.

You can try this link at 11pm (10 pm now): http://www.wxyz.com/video/watch-newscasts-live

 

[Capri71]

Hi there- new to WS but have been following from the start. I live about 15 min away from IGA. I guess I've been more drawn to this investigation since my cousin and his family are close friends with DS -... Forgive me in advance if I break a rule- I'll try not to... delete if not allowed and my apologies if this was mentioned- but in the last updated article from Fox News a few days ago- that was posted on the Find DS site 1) mentions three cars have been searched. Haven't heard any discussion on that. I know one belonged to DS, probably the second to the SG and the third is a mystery (for good reason I'm sure) but seems this must mean that there was another person involved? 2)Also, in the early threads a woman at IGA mentioned that she was approached awkwardly by a strange man looking for apartment numbers on the same day DS disappeared.(I believe). I'm just wondering if she is still on here and did she follow up with calling in since maybe this was the suspect's accomplice who could've been picking up the suspect after he dropped off the car belonging to DS?? Probably a long shot or maybe they have already followed up on it. Praying for Dani....

 

[crhedBngr]

Lmustang89:

Thanks. I have it streaming now.

:great::tyou:

 

[verbalkint7]

For real? YaY

From the backpage information it says "It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children and to arrest and successfully prosecute the pimps who prostitute children.” She added, “The ability to search for and track potentially exploited children on a website and have the website bend over backwards to help and cooperate with police the way Backpage did was totally unique. It not only made law enforcement's job easier, it made them much more effective at rescuing kids and convicting pimps.”

Such BS. I'm so glad it's gone. Now, what will the next one be called?

Well, the Dating sections are still active. For now, I assume it will live there 100% of the time.

 

[Lmustang89]

Hi there- new to WS but have been following from the start. I live about 15 min away from IGA. I guess I've been more drawn to this investigation since my cousin and his family are close friends with DS -... Forgive me in advance if I break a rule- I'll try not to... delete if not allowed and my apologies if this was mentioned- but in the last updated article from Fox News a few days ago- that was posted on the Find DS site 1) mentions three cars have been searched. Haven't heard any discussion on that. I know one belonged to DS, probably the second to the SG and the third is a mystery (for good reason I'm sure) but seems this must mean that there was another person involved? 2)Also, in the early threads a woman at IGA mentioned that she was approached awkwardly by a strange man looking for apartment numbers on the same day DS disappeared.(I believe). I'm just wondering if she is still on here and did she follow up with calling in since maybe this was the suspect's accomplice who could've been picking up the suspect after he dropped off the car belonging to DS?? Probably a long shot or maybe they have already followed up on it. Praying for Dani....

Yes she did report it and police didn't think it was connected

 

[Elle*Bee]

Hi there- new to WS but have been following from the start. I live about 15 min away from IGA. I guess I've been more drawn to this investigation since my cousin and his family are close friends with DS -... Forgive me in advance if I break a rule- I'll try not to... delete if not allowed and my apologies if this was mentioned- but in the last updated article from Fox News a few days ago- that was posted on the Find DS site 1) mentions three cars have been searched. Haven't heard any discussion on that. I know one belonged to DS, probably the second to the SG and the third is a mystery (for good reason I'm sure) but seems this must mean that there was another person involved? 2)Also, in the early threads a woman at IGA mentioned that she was approached awkwardly by a strange man looking for apartment numbers on the same day DS disappeared.(I believe). I'm just wondering if she is still on here and did she follow up with calling in since maybe this was the suspect's accomplice who could've been picking up the suspect after he dropped off the car belonging to DS?? Probably a long shot or maybe they have already followed up on it. Praying for Dani....

Welcome to Websleuths!

Regarding the third car, it could be that of an accomplice OR it could be an another vehicle to which the person of interest has access. For example, if I was being investigated, LE would undoubtedly be interested in my car, my husband's, and my son's.

 

[soanyway]

Do you have a link? That's not how I've interpreted today's ruling. My understanding is that they are being accused of altering the wording in the ads to conceal trafficking and may be held in contempt for not producing requested documents. I haven't found anything that has shut down or limited the online activities, though. IMO, in the absence of the Supreme Court making a ruling, the states are powerless in holding these creeps accountable. BBM

In a related development, a Senate subcommittee released a report Monday that accused Backpage of concealing evidence of criminal activity by systematically editing its "adult" ads to remove words that indicate sex trafficking. The report cites internal documents showing that 70 to 80 percent of the ads are edited to conceal the true nature of the underlying transaction.
The report also says that despite public claims to the contrary, the "true beneficial owners of the company" are CEO Carl Ferrer and former owners James Larkin and Michael Lacey. The report says the men concealed their ownership interest through "a complex chain of domestic and international shell companies."
Ferrer, Lacey and Larkin are scheduled to testify Tuesday before the Senate's Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, which released the report on Backpage late Monday.
Critics say the website has become an increasingly popular vehicle for commercial sexual exploitation. Senate investigators have called Backpage a market leader in sex advertising and it has been linked to hundreds of reported cases of sex trafficking.

http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/high-court-hear-appeal-backpage-escort-ads-44650744

Classified-ad website Backpage.com routinely deleted incriminating words from escort ads, including some terms that might indicate trafficking of children, according to a new Senate report.
For instance, Backpage officials set up an automated ad-filtering system that deleted numerous terms such as “teenage,” “amber alert” and “school girl” that might suggest the person being advertised was underage, according to the report. The filtering “changed nothing about the true nature of the advertised transaction or the real age of the person being sold for sex,” the report says.
Even after the company started rejecting ads altogether if they used unacceptable terms, the company “implemented this change by coaching its customers on how to post ‘clean’ ads for illegal transactions,” the report says.
Backpage’s editing of adult-services ads appears to have helped some sex traffickers avoid detection by law enforcement, while expanding Backpage’s business, according to the report.

After Backpage declined to provide some documents to the panel, the Senate voted 96-0 to hold Backpage’s CEO, Carl Ferrer, in contempt. Backpage contended that the subcommittee’s investigation exceeded constitutional boundaries. The lawmakers secured a federal court order compelling Backpage to produce the documents.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/senate-...e-backpage-com-filtered-escort-ads-1484013188

FWIW, as of today, Backpage.com was forced to shutdown its Adult section... small victory I suppose.

 

[soanyway]

Wow. Such garbage. I don't believe a word of it. JMO

For real? YaY

From the backpage information it says "It's a sad day for America's children victimized by prostitution,” said Dr. Lois Lee, Founder and President, Children of the Night, a leading national hotline and shelter program for victims of sex trafficking based in Los Angeles. “Backpage.com was a critical investigative tool depended on by America's vice detectives and agents in the field to locate and recover missing children and to arrest and successfully prosecute the pimps who prostitute children.” She added, “The ability to search for and track potentially exploited children on a website and have the website bend over backwards to help and cooperate with police the way Backpage did was totally unique. It not only made law enforcement's job easier, it made them much more effective at rescuing kids and convicting pimps.”

Such BS. I'm so glad it's gone. Now, what will the next one be called?

 

[Lia_]

I still think DS told her friend about the SG...
I just feel a friend of almost 3 decades would know. I don't know many people that have a friend for that long that they speak to frequently and see frequently and they don't share things with.

I agree with you but..gah, you guys are strangers and I'm having a hard time even saying it to this thread..basically, I'm the same age as danielle and most of my friends are ones I've had since 4th grade. When my husband and I started dating we were 14 and 15. We were that couple who people make comments on for being so in love and connected and perfect for each other. When he was in his mid 20s he began acting off and I couldn't figure out what it was. I was at my sickest back then and was hospitalized alot..he was working alot and sleeping in a chair at my bedside and I first felt maybe the stress was finally ruining the incredible connection we had. He was so mean and just off, he was always awake and not knowing the signs, I'd had no idea a specialist he went to wrote him for adderall....and he was taking alot of it so he could be superman and work and live at the hospital with me and teach a few times a month..... He knew I didn't approve of the medication after I'd learned about its dangers in college and a documentary, so he hid it. I discovered the bottle, it was hard. We struggled and I was mortified, I didn't want a soul to know. This wasn't my michael, this isn't what I wanted people to think of him as or see our relationship as. I didn't tell my best friends, I told nobody. I struggled through and kept my feelings hidden...I just didn't want people to think badly of him and I wanted to protect him. I know my friends wouldn't of judged but I just couldn't tell anyone and I'm simplifying it here to illustrate that sometimes people have struggles in their lives that the best friends on the planet don't know. I'm not saying DS was hiding but just felt I should share although even repeating it now, is hard.

My spouse, was my rock, my soul mate and I wanted people to see him for all the amazing things that he was. And despite that short blip, he was everything you could want in your best friend and other half, I was lucky....unfortunately alot of women have the same mentality I displayed with no telling a soul about his issurs, except their spouses are really dangerous or abusive but the women keep silent on that part of him because they want their loved ones to see only the positive attributes but in reality they are hiding an abusive spouse and nobody knows until it's too late. Again, I don't see DS in this type of situation but it's not uncommon for girls to fear the truth their best friends will force them to see if they tell the truth behind a bad relationship

Ew I'm gonna just post this before I delete it lol

 

[Out of the darkness]

I just feel a friend of almost 3 decades would know. I don't know many people that have a friend for that long that they speak to frequently and see frequently and they don't share things with.

I have considered they could be/could have been more than friends. Don't know how that would fit into any particular scenario though...

 

[MichJustice]

Today, I was trying to think of a way to depersonalize the discussion about trafficking as posters on both sides felt passionate about it. So to celebrate the current closure of Backpage and DS's family vigil this week to help increase awareness of trafficking, I was inspired to create this diagram.

To bring victims home and to solve disappearances, I do think there are critical distinctions that differentiate various crimes and it is important not to under or over categorize a specific evil act - though there is considerable overlap and many are caused by the same social ills.

I know in this case - we don't have enough facts to put into a certain type yet.

D.S. I hope you will be found safe.

 

[soanyway]

Wow, just checked out the Heather Elvis case and it doesn't look as though she will ever get justice. So sad. I agree that DS probably shares a great deal with her friend(s). She just strikes me as the type that you could tell anything and she would be supportive and that same sharing being reciprocated. It speaks a lot to her character to see how many longterm close friends she has (since high school and earlier).

I still think DS told her friend about the SG.... whatever that relationship was.

Maybe the case of Heather Elvis is framing that thinking, I don't know. But Heather called a friend and told she had been contacted by her ex bf, who was a married man, and he wanted to meet Heather. Eventually Heather did meet him that night, and has never been seen since.

I just feel a friend of almost 3 decades would know. I don't know many people that have a friend for that long that they speak to frequently and see frequently and they don't share things with.

 

[soanyway]

IIRC, the account was around 6:00ish? AA could confirm. If related, it would appear as though there was only an hour or so from the time she left MetLife to her vehicle being taken to IGA. It also seems like a risky time to be returning a vehicle and catching a ride, IMO, as many would be returning from work or heading out for a Friday night.

Hi there- new to WS but have been following from the start. I live about 15 min away from IGA. I guess I've been more drawn to this investigation since my cousin and his family are close friends with DS -... Forgive me in advance if I break a rule- I'll try not to... delete if not allowed and my apologies if this was mentioned- but in the last updated article from Fox News a few days ago- that was posted on the Find DS site 1) mentions three cars have been searched. Haven't heard any discussion on that. I know one belonged to DS, probably the second to the SG and the third is a mystery (for good reason I'm sure) but seems this must mean that there was another person involved? 2)Also, in the early threads a woman at IGA mentioned that she was approached awkwardly by a strange man looking for apartment numbers on the same day DS disappeared.(I believe). I'm just wondering if she is still on here and did she follow up with calling in since maybe this was the suspect's accomplice who could've been picking up the suspect after he dropped off the car belonging to DS?? Probably a long shot or maybe they have already followed up on it. Praying for Dani....