GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #1

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I wonder if they were renting from Bob? Were they kicked out of the building by him? Interesting that they move out the same day that the sex dungeon story breaks?
 
nursebeeme said:
also random question in my mind: why did the hard luck lounge move out of the building on wednesday????
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I'm thinking it's to distance themselves from any illegal activities that were going on at the business. What are licensing requirements and permits to operate a dungeon in the basement of a bar? Did they serve drinks down there? Were they allowed to? JMO.
 
You just know the wives of the friends of Bob are looking at their husbands sideways.
 
Poor Jane...and her kids. This is just awful...the whole story. His actions impede on all their lives...taking his wife's life as part of his web of control.

Did I see this story as a Lifetime movie?

All very very sad for his family and friends.
 
SuziQ said:
You just know the wives of the friends of Bob are looking at their husbands sideways.
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YOU, Ms SuziQ, owe me a keyboard. Diet Cherry Limeade EVERYWHERE!

O..M..G...

:floorlaugh:
 
SuziQ said:
You just know the wives of the friends of Bob are looking at their husbands sideways.
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And if they're not - they should be. As the media keeps pointing out, this is a smallish community. I find it unbelievable that some of the rumors / knowledge of BB having a girlfriend (apparently of 4 years), and basement sex dungeons didn't find it's way to at least one or two of his cronies. They may have kept if from their wives or maybe no one wanted to be the one to share 'rumors' with Jane.

Still no arrest of BB though. I'm starting to wonder if he really did cover his tracks just enough. I've seen some tweets from someone that grew up with Joe Gentz and they claim he is 'mentally challenged'. This could account for his conflicting stories and he would make a perfect accomplice to BB because he could be easily manipulated but then his story would be confused. Just a thought.
 
SuzieQ said:
And if they're not - they should be. As the media keeps pointing out, this is a smallish community. I find it unbelievable that some of the rumors / knowledge of BB having a girlfriend (apparently of 4 years), and basement sex dungeons didn't find it's way to at least one or two of his cronies. They may have kept if from their wives or maybe no one wanted to be the one to share 'rumors' with Jane.

Still no arrest of BB though. I'm starting to wonder if he really did cover his tracks just enough. I've seen some tweets from someone that grew up with Joe Gentz and they claim he is 'mentally challenged'. This could account for his conflicting stories and he would make a perfect accomplice to BB because he could be easily manipulated but then his story would be confused. Just a thought.
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Ok .. elephant in the room.

Jane may have known .. just throwing that out there. He had to come and go at odd hours and have more money than he could otherwise account for .. ? :twocents:

I tend to think that this was a local 'gentlemen's playground' and wives may have been ignorant, but there could have been wives in the know also.

It's a strange world we live in.

Also, the 'mentally challenged' unstable helper is reminding me of DPeterson and his 'helper' ..


IMO IMO IMO
 
video I just posted said that Joe cashed a check at a liquor store from B and B investments the day after the murder

bob owns a company called b and b investments

D atty says that you don't pay a hit with a check you pay it in cash
 
TexasCharm said:
Ok .. elephant in the room.

Jane may have known .. just throwing that out there. He had to come and go at odd hours and have more money than he could otherwise account for .. ? :twocents:

I tend to think that this was a local 'gentlemen's playground' and wives may have been ignorant, but there could have been wives in the know also.

It's a strange world we live in.

Also, the 'mentally challenged' unstable helper is reminding me of DPeterson and his 'helper' ..


Perhaps she did - but I would think not - just my opinion though. The new attorney is alluding to that though which I think is incredibly distasteful since she is not here to speak for herself. So it appears part of his defense is to say Jane knew of this and was ok with it so it is not part of the motive. From the Detroit Free Press - "Griem said his client "loved his wife dearly," adding that "there are many types of marriages today."

The lawyer also addresses the sex dungeon in the same story "Griem said accounts of Bob Bashara having a locked basement room with chains and a mattress in one of his commercial properties "are only rumor and innuendo," probably traceable to the purported accomplice.

"I'm questioning, first, the source of those rumors," Griem said. "I'm not sure that if someone has an alternative lifestyle that they should be painted as guilty of a crime."

Italics put in by me.
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nursebeeme said:
video I just posted said that Joe cashed a check at a liquor store from B and B investments the day after the murder

bob owns a company called b and b investments

D atty says that you don't pay a hit with a check you pay it in cash
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Certainly, unless you're going to say that there was a disagreement between you and this guy about wages owed for jobs completed. Then it's a 'legitimate expense' .. this hit money.

imo
 
SuzieQ said:
TexasCharm said:
Ok .. elephant in the room.

Jane may have known .. just throwing that out there. He had to come and go at odd hours and have more money than he could otherwise account for .. ? :twocents:

I tend to think that this was a local 'gentlemen's playground' and wives may have been ignorant, but there could have been wives in the know also.

It's a strange world we live in.

Also, the 'mentally challenged' unstable helper is reminding me of DPeterson and his 'helper' ..


Perhaps she did - but I would think not - just my opinion though. The new attorney is alluding to that though which I think is incredibly distasteful since she is not here to speak for herself. So it appears part of his defense is to say Jane knew of this and was ok with it so it is not part of the motive. From the Detroit Free Press - "Griem said his client "loved his wife dearly," adding that "there are many types of marriages today."

The lawyer also addresses the sex dungeon in the same story "Griem said accounts of Bob Bashara having a locked basement room with chains and a mattress in one of his commercial properties "are only rumor and innuendo," probably traceable to the purported accomplice.

"I'm questioning, first, the source of those rumors," Griem said. "I'm not sure that if someone has an alternative lifestyle that they should be painted as guilty of a crime."

Italics put in by me.
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His attorney also said that there many types of Marriages these days-does he think Jane was cheating too? Remember Bashara's attorney also defended Stephen Grant in the beginning as well.
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Jane may or may not have known. It could be a case of the marriage being so bad, she was like, fine, do what you want, but leave me alone. I tend to think she didn't know. I also think she may have recently found out and was going to file for divorce, hence the murder.
 
the other thing that Bob said that bothers me a LOT was when he talked about the other "trunk murders" in detroit! (and Jane was found in the back of her van)

does anyone else recall him saying that?
 
nursebeeme said:
here it is:

He also asked for anyone with information to come forward.
“Please come forward. The police need your help. In addition to those four women that had been put in the trunks, terrible things. Anyone that knows anything, please come forward.”


Read more: http://www.wxyz.com/dpp/news/region...f-death-listed-as-strangulation#ixzz1lF87J7Ya
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I find that super, duper creepy. Why would he even mention those murders? Makes me wonder if he is involved in those as well or knows something about it. This is one bizarre dude.
 
Belinda said:
I find that super, duper creepy. Why would he even mention those murders? Makes me wonder if he is involved in those as well or knows something about it. This is one bizarre dude.
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I was just looking at the map.... and the trunk murders were found on the east side as well (around promenade ave)..

Jane was found on the east side as well....

very strange that he said that... esp considering that now the trunk murders have been tied to escorts who were advertising on backpage.com (considering the latest that has come out about him advertising on alt.com)
 
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