GUILTY MI - Jane Bashara, 56, dies in contract killing, Grosse Pointe Park, 25 Jan 2012 #2

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18 years ago, or so... (Source: Grosse Pointe News, September 23, 1993)

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... or here is the entire article in JPG format: (click on Spoiler below to view)

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Jane Bashara is in the middle, 4th from left (or from right)

Source: Grosse Pointe News, August 10,1989

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Source: Grosse Pointe News, September 29, 1983

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Source: Grosse Pointe News, October 13, 1983

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Those were the days... Better days... Jane looks very nice here, very happy. :leaf2:

Source: Grosse Pointe News, January 29, 2009

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Source: Grosse Pointe News, March 28, 2009

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New Evidence Problems in Bashara Investigation?
Attorney says surveillance video is gone

Updated: Saturday, 24 Mar 2012, 11:20 PM EDT
Published : Saturday, 24 Mar 2012, 11:20 PM EDT

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GROSSE PT. PARK, Mich. (WJBK) - More questions about the way evidence is being handled in the Jane Bashara murder investigation. Her attorney says surveillance video that could prove Bob Bashara was at his commercial property at the time of the murder was not taken as evidence quickly enough. Now, it's been erased.

Click on the video player to watch Ronnie Dahl's live report.

Jane Bashara was found strangled in her Mercedes back in January. One suspect is in custody. But, her husband, Bob, is still a person of interest in the case.

"We relied upon the police, shame on us," said Bashara's attorney David Greim. "It appears the videotapes were never taken into custody."

Source: http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/dpp/new...-in-bashara-murder-investigation?-20120324-rs

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front and back of the above mentioned "establishment": (aka HLL) :fence:

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Additional pictures of Hard Luck Lounge, and around front and back of the building, including those video cameras:

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The rest are under the Spoiler: (below)

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I am of the opinion bob is guilty. Conspired and coerced Gentz as he was an easily coerced person. I believe he was present the night of the murder. Based on what has been in the MSM they may not have enough to tie him directly to the murder scene. I do believe LE is working diligently to tie him to conspiracy. If that's all they get him with. I'm ok with that. The pillar will have crumbled and so will his S&M side of life. At least out of Prison.
 
If bb was as innocent as he says and named POI, why would he not make sure to secure those tapes himself? Instead of blaming LE, makes perfect sense to me to grab the tapes and keep them to prove his whereabouts IF that was true. He is only to blame himself!!
 
I am of the opinion bob is guilty. Conspired and coerced Gentz as he was an easily coerced person. I believe he was present the night of the murder. Based on what has been in the MSM they may not have enough to tie him directly to the murder scene. I do believe LE is working diligently to tie him to conspiracy. If that's all they get him with. I'm ok with that. The pillar will have crumbled and so will his S&M side of life. At least out of Prison.

--if they get bob on conspiracy, ( and i believe they will ) the penalty is the same as if he had committed the murder himself.

http://law.onecle.com/michigan/750-michigan-penal-code/mcl-750-157a.html

750.157a Conspiracy to commit offense or legal act in illegal manner; penalty.

"....the person convicted under this section shall be punished by a penalty equal to that which could be imposed if he had been convicted of committing the crime he conspired to commit."

Constitutionality: A mandatory life sentence imposed for conspiracy to commit first-degree murder, even if nonparolable, is not so excessive as to constitute cruel and unusual punishment; nor does it violate the Equal Protection Clauses of the Michigan and United States Constitutions
 
If bb was as innocent as he says and named POI, why would he not make sure to secure those tapes himself? Instead of blaming LE, makes perfect sense to me to grab the tapes and keep them to prove his whereabouts IF that was true. He is only to blame himself!!

Good thinking!

An unrelated comment ~ in the picture of Jane from 2009 above where she looks happy ~ all I can think of when I look at that picture is how we know from RG's postings on that ALT blog that she and BB were already carrying on behind Jane's back ~ two years later Jane would be dead. So sad. Everyone deserves to have an authentic life. I despise BB's actions regardless if he murdered Jane or not. :twocents:
 
Welcome Darkman00. Tried to post yesterday but soooo much lag and hard to get on. So anyways :welcome:

I had the same problem the other day - weird. Was there a reason that you know of? Hardly ever happens here.
 
If bb was as innocent as he says and named POI, why would he not make sure to secure those tapes himself? Instead of blaming LE, makes perfect sense to me to grab the tapes and keep them to prove his whereabouts IF that was true. He is only to blame himself!!
as Bob Bashara's lawyer said, LOL:

"We relied upon the police, shame on us," said Bashara's attorney David Greim.

--- Also interesting to know where those tapes were physically and actually located?
Somewhere in the building more likely.... building owned by Big Bob.
In his office somewhere in the building? (if it even exists there) ... in the basement? (where "the Dungeon" use to exist) ... in building's suite that he rents out to someone? .. or, maybe, those tapes were located inside the Hard Luck Lounge? (as it was most popular and most populated / visited place in that building .. and if some fraud, say, was happening Live on the monitoring system someone could call police right away ... so would make sense to have the "inside" monitoring equipment with tapes located in that Hard Luck Lounge, before they moved out of course, which was end of January i think, right around the time when BB became POI and Dungeon existence in that building started to "come out to the surface") :rolleyes:
 
I had the same problem the other day - weird. Was there a reason that you know of? Hardly ever happens here.
I think the forum was lagging BAD......
Forum's pages didn't want to open up etc... - had to press "Reload the page" in the browser many times before page successfully refreshed.
Seems to be OK now.. hopefully it was a temporary glitch.
 
A camera or two must have been installed outside the building because BB installed them due to frequent car thefts that had taken place. Not sure if there were cameras inside too.
 
What's that saying? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
:maddening: lol!
 
A camera or two must have been installed outside the building because BB installed them due to frequent car thefts that had taken place. Not sure if there were cameras inside too.
ya.. the camera (or two etc) WERE installed on outside (to monitor parking lot etc) .. BUT i was referring to the monitoring equipment (belonging to that monitoring system) that is located INSIDE the building somewhere (like the Video player, monitor, tapes etc.. which are, surely, located somewhere inside the building, ... simply wouldn't mind to know where exactly inside the building they are located) :)
 
Roll of screen shots from previous videos that i made some time ago: (click on Spoiler below)

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Some pics that i have accumulated over time (Bashara case and case's "players" related) .. Click on each Spoiler below to view:

Bob Bashara:
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Big Bob is lurking out of the window:
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Joe Gentz:
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Joe Gentz's lawyer:
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David Griem:
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Jane Bashara:
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Rachel Gillett:
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Miscellaneous:
BB's profile at one of the Bondage sites:
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The guy who drove Joe Gentz (to police station etc)
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Dungeon:
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Down the stairs to Dungeon we go... :
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Bob's sister:
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One of the routes from Hard Luck Lounge / Dungeon to Bob's house on Middlesex:
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Jane's dog, Lance ... It passed away shortly after Jane's death. *(((( .... R.I.P. Lance
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