I find it odd he is staying away from the home, and with a female. Just strikes me as odd. I would have thought the young daughter would go stay at Grandma's, while the married couple works on his defense, finances, etc.
This whole family dynamic is beyond bizarre, and Turnquist is at the center of it. Bathroom doors off, mouth taping, children moving to live with Grandma, suicidal drama, *advertiser censored* charges....and this is what we *know* about.
MiMommy
Why did JT hate the Brucks?
I wonder if he did not want to go because he did not want to draw that type of attention to something as special as someone's wedding. Perhaps he was worried that his attendance would distract from the appropriate family? Then, maybe he chose to go to support his wife?
Yes...his concern and altruism is what led Kim to say he "hated" them. LOL
It's not that complicated...Trojan is saying that he didn't hear Jim say that he hates the Bruck family first hand, but that Kim said he did.
V
MiMommy, I asked for clarification because up thread *you* said JT hated the Brucks. I'm interested in knowing why he felt this way.
Did I misunderstand? So much on this thread, I probably did.
As always, thank you for your enduring patience in answering all these questions!
Ok sorry for the confusion MiMommy. It appears it was 4ist who informed that JT hated the Brucks, not you. Trojan has confirmed Kim stating this as well.
I wonder WHY?!
I'm not going to tippie toe around. I have not cleared JT off my POI list in either Julia or Chelsea's murders. The odds of two family friends murdered from the same small town are astronomical. I can only find one common thread at the moment; JT. I am not saying he is the Perp, I am saying he is all around suspicious. May be involved at some level.
Obviously this is why the JT hated the Brucks is so important to dig deep on.
MMy last communication with Kim was over a one hour of her ranting at me on the phone. During this "rant" she mentioned that JT hated the Brucks and didn't want to go to the wedding. Since this time, she has not talked to me but the one hour of "ranting" was pretty much running down everyone in the extended family because JT was innocent of having child *advertiser censored*. She also stated that people who think that JT had something to do with Julia's murder are crazy. She said "Do you think I would have brought such a person into my family to "raise" the twins?" Well, maybe she didn't know him as well as she thought when she met him. He has never been very friendly to our extended family and always seemed uncomfortable and usually would leave gathering early.
Thank you again, to you both for your input. It means a lot in grasping the situation. It's brave of you and I'm sure not easy to do.
Trojan, you're an amazing stalwart dad to keep reaching out. It's so hard to even begin to imagine what a horrible situation this must be for you. I wouldn't have been able to deal with it as admirably as you have. Your family is extremely fortunate to have you.
I want to know what time JT got home on Dec 10 and where he was before he got home.
Editing to add, Dec 9 as well.
Yes...his concern and altruism is what led Kim to say he "hated" them. LOL
It's not that complicated...Trojan is saying that he didn't hear Jim say that he hates the Bruck family first hand, but that Kim said he did.
V
MiMommy, I asked for clarification because up thread *you* said JT hated the Brucks. I'm interested in knowing why he felt this way.
Did I misunderstand? So much on this thread, I probably did.
As always, thank you for your enduring patience in answering all these questions!
Ok sorry for the confusion MiMommy. It appears it was 4ist who informed that JT hated the Brucks, not you. Trojan has confirmed Kim stating this as well.
I wonder WHY?!
I'm not going to tippie toe around. I have not cleared JT off my POI list in either Julia or Chelsea's murders. The odds of two family friends murdered from the same small town are astronomical. I can only find one common thread at the moment; JT. I am not saying he is the Perp, I am saying he is all around suspicious. May be involved at some level.
Obviously this is why the JT hated the Brucks is so important to dig deep on.
MMy last communication with Kim was over a one hour of her ranting at me on the phone. During this "rant" she mentioned that JT hated the Brucks and didn't want to go to the wedding. Since this time, she has not talked to me but the one hour of "ranting" was pretty much running down everyone in the extended family because JT was innocent of having child *advertiser censored*. She also stated that people who think that JT had something to do with Julia's murder are crazy. She said "Do you think I would have brought such a person into my family to "raise" the twins?" Well, maybe she didn't know him as well as she thought when she met him. He has never been very friendly to our extended family and always seemed uncomfortable and usually would leave gathering early.
Thank you again, to you both for your input. It means a lot in grasping the situation. It's brave of you and I'm sure not easy to do.
Trojan, you're an amazing stalwart dad to keep reaching out. It's so hard to even begin to imagine what a horrible situation this must be for you. I wouldn't have been able to deal with it as admirably as you have. Your family is extremely fortunate to have you.
4ist, I am so sorry you are having to take a stand for your beloved Julia in this way. I cannot imagine the pain some of our thoughts must bring to you and other family. I commend your honesty, your strength and determination. Stay strong, dear one. Justice is getting closer. It has to be.
I was deep in Julia's thread when a gorgeous young woman, a second semester freshman, AJ, went missing. Her step dad took control of the search right away, set up alternative investigation as it were, and ended up in jail, a POI, now awaiting trial for impeding the investigation by planting evidence. My first instinct was how similar to Turnquist he seemed. I've never thought he is innocent of Julia's death from the second I first saw him on MSM without knowing much else about the case. It was great to see him start to face justice. I don't know what this does to you to have your own family still being torn to save him from facing consequences but it seems to be moving very much in the direction of truths, which won't be any harder hopefully than what has already come to pass.
Dazed, you are right. There are two vastly different depictions of JT. If he is truly bipolar, it could account for vastly different presentments of persona.
This is a very complicated case, and perhaps it just took this length of time to arrive at various concerns.
There are still critical unanswered questions we would like to hear JT respond to. He is still LE's POI, and thus in our bullseye of sleuthing.
I agree he has passionate supporters. I hope their support is well placed, but I am not yet convinced of that. Still open and learning more on this thread each day. Complex case.
I've never heard of people submitting statements directly to the court or of the court asking for such, especially in a child *advertiser censored* case. If the court needs to hear from you, then you would be called by the procecutor or his lawyer as a character witness. I'll try to talk to the prosecutor and the Judge's secretary to see if such a thing has been done and what the reason would be. Now if these statements were given to JT's lawyer that may be a differnt story. I guess my question would be "Why would the court not want statements from other family members if they wanted your statement?"
My main focus continues to be to find Justice for Julia. I want the truth period. I just can not believe that anyone else with the same goal would not be as helpful as they can to solve this case. We are not discussing things to assassinate anyone's character but merely trying to get the facts as we know them out in the open to help others come up with theories and ideas that may have been overlooked. There is no doubt in my mind that LE is following all the information posted on this site as another effort to help with their investigation. The lead detective has assured me over and over that she's working for Julia and wants only to find the truth. I appreciate everyone's "ideas" and theories as it does give everyone a different perspective. Please keep up the great work as I deeply appreciate everyone's efforts.
Roses - I was with/married to an un-medicated bipolar man for 3 years who ended his life in a very violent way. I know exactly what they are like, how they conduct themselves and how they can act irrationally at the drop of a hat. It's not controlled reactions either. It's simply not possible. That's why I am asking the question. It should be easy to find many people that had run-ins with JT. These types of people leave quite an impression on people they deal with.
I am well aware of what "child *advertiser censored* is". I am also aware of the photos in question. Think back to the statements by LE and JT'S attorney....questionable age.
We are not talking about bare bummed babes...that I an assure you.
Dazed, I am sorry that you had such a tragedy in your life. I understand that Jim had been diagnosed as being Bipolar, don't know to what degree. KT had mentioned on numerous occasions that he was flying off the handle and won't take his meds. I think everyone in the family have witnessed Jim's explosive behavior. Again, he never sticks around long.
I am not sure if this has ever been brought up in here, but Jim had for many years taught children and adults in Martial arts, his only daughter also attends this martial arts school. About a year ago She mentioned that her Dad was NO longer allowed to instruct any children for there had been complaints by children and parents about Jim being to strict and controlling. So it really makes me wonder why we haven't heard anything from those concerned parents now.
Dazed, I am sorry that you had such a tragedy in your life. I understand that Jim had been diagnosed as being Bipolar, don't know to what degree. KT had mentioned on numerous occasions that he was flying off the handle and won't take his meds. I think everyone in the family have witnessed Jim's explosive behavior. Again, he never sticks around long.
I am not sure if this has ever been brought up in here, but Jim had for many years taught children and adults in Martial arts, his only daughter also attends this martial arts school. About a year ago She mentioned that her Dad was NO longer allowed to instruct any children for there had been complaints by children and parents about Jim being to strict and controlling. So it really makes me wonder why we haven't heard anything from those concerned parents now.
BBM
Mimommy, this post concerns me. How would you know specifically which pictures LE is considering to be child *advertiser censored* on a seized computer? This should not be public knowledge at this point in time, should it? Or am I misunderstanding your statement (bolded)?
Has anyone considered a swingers club linked to the possibles? I did a quick search and it seems there is a lively group in Monroe area. I could not force myself to go any further. Which brings me back to remembering the old Bob Bashara hangout not far from Milan area. I believe this was even mentioned early in our discussions here. Something is nibbling at my brain and causing me deep concern in regard to what Julia may have known that could have caused someone to be afraid of her blabbing. I cannot be more specific, because I do not know where these thoughts might lead. Could even be a dead end for me.
Dazed, I am sorry that you had such a tragedy in your life. I understand that Jim had been diagnosed as being Bipolar, don't know to what degree. KT had mentioned on numerous occasions that he was flying off the handle and won't take his meds. I think everyone in the family have witnessed Jim's explosive behavior. Again, he never sticks around long.
I am not sure if this has ever been brought up in here, but Jim had for many years taught children and adults in Martial arts, his only daughter also attends this martial arts school. About a year ago She mentioned that her Dad was NO longer allowed to instruct any children for there had been complaints by children and parents about Jim being to strict and controlling. So it really makes me wonder why we haven't heard anything from those concerned parents now.
Please don't take this as an attack, but I stated earlier that just because someone says something doesn't make it true in my opinion. If those statements can be taken into a courtroom, dissected and proven then I would have to give it credibility as both sides of the story would have been scrutinized. JMO
BBM
Mimommy, this post concerns me. How would you know specifically which pictures LE is considering to be child *advertiser censored* on a seized computer? This should not be public knowledge at this point in time, should it? Or am I misunderstanding your statement (bolded)?
Has anyone considered a swingers club linked to the possibles? I did a quick search and it seems there is a lively group in Monroe area. I could not force myself to go any further. Which brings me back to remembering the old Bob Bashara hangout not far from Milan area. I believe this was even mentioned early in our discussions here. Something is nibbling at my brain and causing me deep concern in regard to what Julia may have known that could have caused someone to be afraid of her blabbing. I cannot be more specific, because I do not know where these thoughts might lead. Could even be a dead end for me.
Even if JTs character is as bad as some people here suggest, I am not sure how he COULD have killed Julia. What is the theory here? Kim and her two daughters have given JT an alibi for the murder. But let us assume that JT sneaked out while the others were asleep. Isn't it unlikely that one of the three people (and a dog?) would not wake up while he sneaks out? then they again do not wake up when he comes back? Nor do they notice that he is gone in the time in between? if JT left while everyone was asleep, then it must have been really late, say 11pm or later. So he makes an unannounced visit to Julia around midnight or later. Would she let this man, who allegedly sexually abused her, let him in at this time of night? I think not. JMO
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Even if JTs character is as bad as some people here suggest, I am not sure how he COULD have killed Julia. What is the theory here? Kim and her two daughters have given JT an alibi for the murder. But let us assume that JT sneaked out while the others were asleep. Isn't it unlikely that one of the three people (and a dog?) would not wake up while he sneaks out? then they again do not wake up when he comes back? Nor do they notice that he is gone in the time in between? if JT left while everyone was asleep, then it must have been really late, say 11pm or later. So he makes an unannounced visit to Julia around midnight or later. Would she let this man, who allegedly sexually abused her, let him in at this time of night? I think not. JMO
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