GUILTY MI - Rebekah Gay, 24, Broomfield Township, 31 Oct 2012

[sadnpod]

I am so stunned.
A pastor? How in the heck can a guy with his record be allowed to lead a church? I am a Christian and I was fingerprinted to VOLUNTEER at my church. (I am not complaining, I think it should be this way). How can they not check his background? Or did they and he gave them the "I'm a changed man routine" and they believed him?? NO ONE, even if they had changed, should be allowed into such a position of trust with his background!!

Engaged to her mother? OMG! Engaged to marry her and kill her daughter? with her 3 yr old in the house? SICK SICK SICK!

So here's the rundown on this (so far...)
Tried to kill a woman in 1981
Killed a woman in 1995
Served two prison terms and was RELEASED
Somehow, became a pastor
Dated and engaged to victim's mother
Watched the victim's son sometimes

I think a copy of these articles should be sent to EVERY public defender, attorney and judge who was involved in any of his past cases!!! WE HAVE TO STOP being bleeding hearts and letting the truly sick, demented, murdering out of jail!

Last thought - My prayers and love go out to Rebekah's family, friends and loved ones.
May you somehow find a way to move through this knowing Rebekah's love did not end when her life did. PLEASE take care of her little boy and support his dad - they are going to need it. And finally, Rebekah, Rest In Peace ^i^. I'm so sad that your beautiful life ended in such an ugly way.

BBM.. A truly eloquent statement. Im sitting here bawling for all of them. THanks is not enough for this post... but its all I have.. thank you.

 

[sadnpod]

Im single.. I date. My children are grown and I have grandchildren. I never allow anyone Im dating to meet or know my family. I figure maybe one day, when I trust them, I will.

Five years dating one man, and still I don't allow it. Maybe I've become too jaded being a member of WS.

But I will take jaded and paranoid over the death of my loved ones any day. Im not in any way implying that the victims in this case are responsible. Just sayin..it takes a really LONG time to be able to trust someone. In my heart and in my life.. maybe never. And I can live with that.

 

[sadnpod]

Yes. People growing an herb will get more time than this guy who stabbed a teenager 14 times.

We are to believe people smoking an herb, or growing and selling it, are more dangerous than someone like this?

The electorate eats it up, too. Judges and prosecutors who are elected have run for YEARS on how they will crack down on drug pushers and users. Does anyone run on cracking down on rapists and women killers and domestic batterers? I haven't heard one lately.

Well said, Gardenlady. This post and your name made me smile... and I needed a smile.

 

[longtallcold]

Good article here - and the reporter did some digging and is still searching for more information.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/11/mt_pleasant_murder_suspect_cha.html

I took a look at our archive to see what more I could learn about the 1994 case. At the time of White's plea, Jim Gregart was Kalamazoo County Prosecutor and White received his sentence from Kalamazoo County Circuit Judge John Foley.

This is a quote from the author in the comments .... if not ok mods pls remove. He seems to be really following up on this, as so many are up in arms over him even being free to kill again.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

While it doesn't happen often, there are times when I wish that I hadn't followed a missing person case on Websleuths. This is one of those times. I live in southeastern Michigan and haven't seen anything about Rebekah Gay in local media that generally includes metro-Detroit and a few adjacent counties. Had I not seen the thread about this missing mid-Michigan woman on WS, I probably wouldn't have known anything about the case.

I feel like many of you have already posted - this :sick: I caught up on posts since last evening and am horrified by the details of the brutal murder and the fact that the perp shouldn't have been living in civilized society. :furious:

A minister? I wonder how his congregation feels about him now? Talk about being duped! Engaged to the victim's mother? Did she not know about his criminal background? I wonder how she feels about about her intended now that he has murdered her daughter and mother of her grandson.

I generally don't espouse the DP, but this is one time that I wish Michigan put brazen criminals to death. :moo:

 

[Gardenlady]

Good article here - and the reporter did some digging and is still searching for more information.

http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2012/11/mt_pleasant_murder_suspect_cha.html



This is a quote from the author in the comments .... if not ok mods pls remove. He seems to be really following up on this, as so many are up in arms over him even being free to kill again.

Have found that Foley retired in 99, died in 2007.

 

[hollyblue]

Do you think she really didn't lock her doors or did he possess a key? If so, did Rebekah give it to him? Did the mother have one? Did he have one made off the mother's? Also, does anyone know if Rebekah has siblings...and where the mother lives? TIA

 

[Kimster]

I am so stunned.
A pastor? How in the heck can a guy with his record be allowed to lead a church? I am a Christian and I was fingerprinted to VOLUNTEER at my church. (I am not complaining, I think it should be this way). How can they not check his background? Or did they and he gave them the "I'm a changed man routine" and they believed him?? NO ONE, even if they had changed, should be allowed into such a position of trust with his background!!

Engaged to her mother? OMG! Engaged to marry her and kill her daughter? with her 3 yr old in the house? SICK SICK SICK!

So here's the rundown on this (so far...)
Tried to kill a woman in 1981
Killed a woman in 1995
Served two prison terms and was RELEASED
Somehow, became a pastor
Dated and engaged to victim's mother
Watched the victim's son sometimes

I think a copy of these articles should be sent to EVERY public defender, attorney and judge who was involved in any of his past cases!!! WE HAVE TO STOP being bleeding hearts and letting the truly sick, demented, murdering out of jail!

Last thought - My prayers and love go out to Rebekah's family, friends and loved ones.
May you somehow find a way to move through this knowing Rebekah's love did not end when her life did. PLEASE take care of her little boy and support his dad - they are going to need it. And finally, Rebekah, Rest In Peace ^i^. I'm so sad that your beautiful life ended in such an ugly way.

:goodpost:

I don't use the above smiley very often because I see so many thousands of awesome posts by our members. But this one could have been written by me - I strongly agree with every word.

When I saw someone link to his FB during the time of the announcing presser, I thought for sure it was wrong. Evil is evil, but when evil lurks in the church, it's so evil that the English language doesn't have a word to describe it. This case has me chilled to the bone.

 

[D'sWifey]

How terrible... Poor sweet woman. I saw her missing picture posted on fb yesterday and prayed so hard for her safety... I am now praying for her family and friends. RIP.. you are safe now and forever more.

 

[Seajay]

In my state, he would be on death row, not out to murder again.

In the very least he should have been in prison without possibility of parole, ever. He proved he was a repeat offender.

Drug addicts caught stealing get more time then this.

 

[Bravo]

Candlelight Vigil this evening 8 p.m. for Rebekah :rose:

http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2012/11/candlelight_vigil_planned_for.html

 

[iluvmua]

What a sick pile of dog crap.

BROOMFIELD TOWNSHIP, Mich. — A central Michigan pastor accused of beating and strangling a neighbor to fulfill a sexual fantasy was engaged to the victim's mother and had asked church members to pray for the young woman before police found her body, a friend said Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/john-d-white-pastor_n_2065605.html

Just WOW........ She said the tiny congregation was aware of White's criminal past when he joined the church. He was released from prison in 2007 after serving nearly 12 years for manslaughter in the death of a 26-year-old woman in Kalamazoo County, according to the state Corrections Department.

 

[Kimster]

What a sick pile of dog crap.

BROOMFIELD TOWNSHIP, Mich. — A central Michigan pastor accused of beating and strangling a neighbor to fulfill a sexual fantasy was engaged to the victim's mother and had asked church members to pray for the young woman before police found her body, a friend said Friday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/02/john-d-white-pastor_n_2065605.html

Just WOW........ She said the tiny congregation was aware of White's criminal past when he joined the church. He was released from prison in 2007 after serving nearly 12 years for manslaughter in the death of a 26-year-old woman in Kalamazoo County, according to the state Corrections Department.

Which is a perfect example of why this is in the Bible: 1 Timothy 3:1-7 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Timothy+3:1-7&version=NIV)


I need to stay out of this thread. I'm infuriated.

 

[TexasCharm]

... which means her mother knew .. she KNEW .. and trusted that he was a changed man..

sad.

 

[scorekeeper]

... which means her mother knew .. she KNEW .. and trusted that he was a changed man..

sad.

i wonder why the baby's grandma didn't go stay with him in the mornings? Perhaps she worked or the devil offered to go so she could sleep in????

 

[Gardenlady]

So the lady from the church is blaming "Satan"!!! Omg...no lady, there is no devil with a pitchfork to blame this on. It was your PASTOR, who you hired, who said turned his life around when he met Jesus! That was who did it! Not some bogeyman or devil.

:furious:

 

[Seajay]

This is just distrubing. All these people knew and they allowed him in positions of trust and in their lives. Holy Moly!!!!

 

[scorekeeper]

White said he went to Gay’s home at about 2 a.m. Wednesday after drinking four or five “Natty Daddy,” 24-ounce Natural Light beers, according to court documents.

White said he took a large rubber mallet and a zip tie and went into Gay’s trailer, and noticed a light come on in her bedroom.

Gay walked to a side door where White said he entered the trailer, and when she looked out of the door window, White hit her on the head several times with the mallet until she lost consciousness, according to court records.

http://www.themorningsun.com/articl...er-suspect-held-without-bond&pager=full_story

so Rebekah was aware/awake when the attack happened???

This keeps getting worse and worse....

Guess he needed a little liquid courage (beers)....I want him to suffer sooooo bad!!!

 

[absentia]

I couldn'nt sleep last night, his image kept floating through my mind. Its like Holt and Couey had a kid and created this monster. All of their faces just keep rolling through my mind. Rebekah, Mickey, Brittney, Holly, Kelli..

Why in this country do people serve more time for marijuana than stabbing a 17 yr old girl? Than killing a young woman? If I feel this way, I cannot fathom what her family must be going through. He should have been locked away in his turtle suit years ago.. he should have never been free to hurt anyone.

I agree with so many posters here that I cant quote them all. He hid his hatred of women behind a mask of God. Used this ruse to weave himself into the lives of his victims. What will this do to her son? What images will he have to live with? How can he ever trick or treat or trust again?

Who is really guilty here? This sick f*ck or the worthless Judge and Prosecutor who allowed this to happen? They took an oath to protect and prosecute.. they did neither. In fact they added fuel to his perverted nature by allowing him to roam among us, they gave him his sheeps clothing, they gave him power, they proved beyond a reasonable doubt that he could kill, maim, and destroy and nothing would happen to him. NOTHING.. In reality, he gained by being imprisoned for his oh soooo short stay there.. he learned a new trade to trick innocent people, a new way to fool people wanting something to believe in.

And so many lives were destroyed, so many children who are forever changed simply because he roamed among us. He is a serial killer. No doubt. How many victims are out there that we dont know about?

I too want NAMES. Who did this? Who let him go? Who was the Judge? HOW DOES HE/SHE SLEEP AT NIGHT?

These Judges who let these monsters roam free should have to invite them to their dinner table with their families as soon as they are released. THey must believe they are now law abiding, productive citizens or they wouldnt release them. So invite them into your home, break bread with them, let them get your child ready for halloween.

Dustin Kent has raped more than one child. He is charged with 7 counts, on multiple victims, yet he walks free. WHY???? What does this tell the victim who had the courage to tell what he had done to her?

How many lives have to be ruined before these Judges have to pay for what they allow to happen?

this would be the result of a culture based on a misogynist patriarchy. women and children are not as valuable as (white) men and boys. and their pain just does not register or matter. there is a deep seated fear of women's sexual power at the root of this, and therefore crimes against their sexuality and their ability to bear children (and their actual children) are sort of condoned in the system.

 

[CoachSue]

OMG he was engaged to her mom???
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/0...-in-killing-fiancee-daughter/?test=latestnews