hollyblue
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Does anyone know where he was incarcerated the last time? TIA
All the women involved so far are women he knew...closely. The girl who survived in '80..he knew, but we don't know if they had been dating, how long or just how well he knew her....she was a neighbor. I think he may have been trying to overcome "his demons", but wasn't happy with the progression....and reverted to his old ways. He was looking for faith in people and forgetting where it should be. Didn't he say something about certain people not believing he was a changed man? Was this directed specifically toward the mother or just other people in the town/church, etc?
He's warped and twisted, but I don't think he's psychopathic. IMO
All the women involved so far are women he knew...closely. The girl who survived in '80..he knew, but we don't know if they had been dating, how long or just how well he knew her....she was a neighbor. I think he may have been trying to overcome "his demons", but wasn't happy with the progression....and reverted to his old ways. He was looking for faith in people and forgetting where it should be. Didn't he say something about certain people not believing he was a changed man? Was this directed specifically toward the mother or just other people in the town/church, etc?
He's warped and twisted, but I don't think he's psychopathic. IMO
Since you brought Jesus into this:
He died for our forgiveness ... long BEFORE we ever repented.
We repent to RECEIVE forgiveness .. not to allow the other party to forgive us.
Jesus tells us to forgive those that sin against us, just as he forgave us .. before we asked.
If the guilty asks .. it is so that HE can receive.
God made it our business to forgive .. and the benefit is all ours ... spiritually, emotionally, and physically.
Unforgiveness will destroy you. It does not free the guilty from their consequences.
/sermon
Sorry.. just clarifying. No more bible stuff from me.
Not psychopath ? A "pastor" brutally killed his fiancés 24 year old daughter inside her mobile home with her 3 year old son inside than dressed him in a halloween costume and delivered him to his father ? Hmmm IMO i would go with a yes on that one.
Since you brought Jesus into this:
He died for our forgiveness ... long BEFORE we ever repented.
We repent to RECEIVE forgiveness .. not to allow the other party to forgive us.
Jesus tells us to forgive those that sin against us, just as he forgave us .. before we asked.
If the guilty asks .. it is so that HE can receive.
God made it our business to forgive .. and the benefit is all ours ... spiritually, emotionally, and physically.
Unforgiveness will destroy you. It does not free the guilty from their consequences.
/sermon
Sorry.. just clarifying. No more bible stuff from me.
Until more money, time and importance is placed on mental illnesses (which appears to be the least funded illness with insurance companies)I sadly think these stories are just going to continually get worse as time goes on..
ITA.
Forgiveness was my nemesis for a long time. A did horrific things to me in my past. Forgiveness was a HUGE struggle for me! I did not want to forgive because I didn't want the to think what they did was "ok". Then I learned what forgiveness is and what it is not.
Forgiveness is: for YOURSELF. Like the old saying goes "Anger destroys the vessel carrying it, not the one it is aimed at." or "Unforgiveness is like drinking poison and hoping the other person dies."
Forgiveness is not: contigent on repentance from the person who hurt you. You can stop holding hatred and pain in your heart, even if that person is never sorry.
Forgiveness is to set YOU free. Whether the other person is "free" is up to them (did they repent? have they changed their behavior?). They may never be "free", but you can be.
Forgiveness is not: saying "what you did is ok."
Forgiveness is: saying you have taken too much already. I will not allow what you did to take one more minute of my life or thoughts.
That being said, forgiveness DOES NOT mean you have to allow that person to be in a position to ever hurt you again. If someone hurt you, you can forgive but still keep boundaries to keep you safe. It is possible to forgive and STILL not allow that person in your life. If someone has shown they are a pedophile, you may have forgiven them but it is foolish to put them in a position where they have access to children. If someone has embezzeled, it is foolish to put them in charge of the finances. Someone may be forgiven, but that does not mean there are no further consequences for their action (ie: job restrictions, etc).
ETA: Forgiveness is not usually a "one time deal". It is a process. In my case, I had to forgive over and over and remind myself I was forgiving that person.