Michelle Young ~ Pregnant Mother NC Part 3

[close_enough]

I was thinking about LE finding bloody fingerprints too. I saw Greta there the other night and she had on a heavy jacket and gloves. Is it cold at night there now? If Jason or a stranger killed her they wouldn't look out of place if they wore gloves. I wonder if Jason was wearing gloves when the left that night.

yep, it's possible he wore gloves, but IMO, i think whoever did this had gloves on anyway....i'm sure it's quite chilly up there, this time of the year, especially at night...

 

[Masissy]

I have wondered what alerted Meridith that MY and Cassidy were in the house. Maybe she heard Cassidy crying. To me if Cassidy would have been quiet when Meredith entered she would have headed to the office to pick up the fax and then left.

 

[packerdog]

I have wondered what alerted Meridith that MY and Cassidy were in the house. Maybe she heard Cassidy crying. To me if Cassidy would have been quiet when Meredith entered she would have headed to the office to pick up the fax and then left.

Unless like Fran speculated, the fax/ computer was missing. MY did say things were out of place or something looked different.

 

[PolkSaladAnnie]

I have wondered what alerted Meridith that MY and Cassidy were in the house. Maybe she heard Cassidy crying. To me if Cassidy would have been quiet when Meredith entered she would have headed to the office to pick up the fax and then left.

Hi Masissy - I think Meredith noticed MY's car ... called out and walked through the home - the dog had been going crazy; obviously no breakfast items were out - there'd have been no (assumed) radio on... and us women have that 6th instinct. Especially with immediate family???

JMO

 

[MrsMush99]

Hi Masissy - I think Meredith noticed MY's car ... called out and walked through the home - the dog had been going crazy; obviously no breakfast items were out - there'd have been no (assumed) radio on... and us women have that 6th instinct. Especially with immediate family???

JMO

I think it was the dog going crazy that alerted her. And when she went in the house she saw Cassidy's bloody footprints. OR the dog directed her to Michelle. Remember Kato bringing the person back to Bundy where Nicole was killed?? I have a feeling Michelle's car was in the garage. Why would Meredith go in the house if she saw her car and thought that she was home when the "fax" she was collecting was not to be seen by her?

 

[raisincharlie]

I have wondered what alerted Meridith that MY and Cassidy were in the house. Maybe she heard Cassidy crying. To me if Cassidy would have been quiet when Meredith entered she would have headed to the office to pick up the fax and then left.

Maybe the bloody little foot prints all over the house....

 

[close_enough]

I have wondered what alerted Meridith that MY and Cassidy were in the house. Maybe she heard Cassidy crying. To me if Cassidy would have been quiet when Meredith entered she would have headed to the office to pick up the fax and then left.

i've wondered about this also....was Michelle's car in the garage?...if so, Meredith might have gone in & walked straight to wherever this 'fax' was suppose to be......she said the dog was freaking out when she got there, so maybe the dog was in the house, maybe Meredith saw Cassidy's little footprints downstairs to start with, then went further on to investigate, yelling thru the house "Michelle???"...maybe she saw Cassidy as soon as she opened the door??....

but you're right...how ever the house appeared when she opened the door, something made her go to Michelle's bedroom, at some point.......

 

[close_enough]

Unless like Fran speculated, the fax/ computer was missing. MY did say things were out of place or something looked different.

you're right...Meredith said the house didn't look like it normally does, but yet she couldn't pinpoint it, to the dispatcher...actually, the dispatcher didn't give her a lot of time to look/think about it, from what i could tell in the call......the only thing she could actually say regarding how the house looked was Cassidy's bloody footprints, & the blood being in the bed......

 

[close_enough]

I think it was the dog going crazy that alerted her. And when she went in the house she saw Cassidy's bloody footprints. OR the dog directed her to Michelle. Remember Kato bringing the person back to Bundy where Nicole was killed?? I have a feeling Michelle's car was in the garage. Why would Meredith go in the house if she saw her car and thought that she was home when the "fax" she was collecting was not to be seen by her?

if she saw Michelle's car, i would think she would have knocked first, BUT if she heard the dog "freaking out" inside, that might have made her go ahead & use her key to get in, after not getting an answer .......

 

[raisincharlie]

good point Polk!...is IS us that are impatient, lol........maybe, just maybe LE is working to TRY & get JY in for official questioning, before they make an arrest??

I think we tend to forget several things. I read earlier on there were 20 officers assigned. So you have to send some to Virginia to trak the husbands whereabouts. Some remain to check out other leads, some are interviewing family and friends and so on. Someone has to the follow the route the husband took from VA to Brevard making stops along the way to show pictures, ask questions and so on. Someone has to write warrants to get phone records, credit card statements and on and on and on. When all this comes in it all has to be gone through and reduced to something usable.

This is an enormus task to undertake - it is not like they are entirely focused on one thing. We have close to a hundred pages of blabber about this case already - imagine how many pages they have ! Since the husband has not been actively participating, that we know of of, the police are spending a heck of a lot of time trying to just figure out where he was, how he got there.

Today the Wake County Sheriff's office is also involved in a massive manhunt trying to capture two armed men who are they suspect located in a neighborhood. So do they try to catch these guys with guns and protect the people of that neighborhood or do they ignore it and investigate this case? I think they have more than one thing to do - be patient - give them a break and the time needed to identify this murderer and collect the evidence necessary to put the murderer away. JMO.

Close - I am waiting on DMV info - impatiently of course.

 

[packerdog]

if she saw Michelle's car, i would think she would have knocked first, BUT if she heard the dog "freaking out" inside, that might have made her go ahead & use her key to get in, after not getting an answer .......

Or....When she went to unlock the door it was unlocked and maybe open a little. Who would bother to lock it after the murder? Jason or an intruder?

 

[Masissy]

Somewhere in these many many threads it was posted that Jason called Michelle twice and received no answer. He thought nothing of it because MY was to be at the Doctor? I know when my kids where two they would answer the phone. Wonder if he called the house or her cell? I wish we knew more......

 

[Bee Charmer]

close_enough,


Do you have a link to the actual transcript for th 911 call ? I've listened to it but am afraid my ears are playing tricks on me, maybe it is just the brain. If it is just in a post - do you have a post number and since we have 3 parts now - a part number as well. TIA!

Here's a portion of it, courtesy of the NG Show. Go to the very bottom.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/16/ng.01.html

 

[close_enough]

I think we tend to forget several things. I read earlier on there were 20 officers assigned. So you have to send some to Virginia to trak the husbands whereabouts. Some remain to check out other leads, some are interviewing family and friends and so on. Someone has to the follow the route the husband took from VA to Brevard making stops along the way to show pictures, ask questions and so on. Someone has to write warrants to get phone records, credit card statements and on and on and on. When all this comes in it all has to be gone through and reduced to something usable.

This is an enormus task to undertake - it is not like they are entirely focused on one thing. We have close to a hundred pages of blabber about this case already - imagine how many pages they have ! Since the husband has not been actively participating, that we know of of, the police are spending a heck of a lot of time trying to just figure out where he was, how he got there.

Today the Wake County Sheriff's office is also involved in a massive manhunt trying to capture two armed men who are they suspect located in a neighborhood. So do they try to catch these guys with guns and protect the people of that neighborhood or do they ignore it and investigate this case? I think they have more than one thing to do - be patient - give them a break and the time needed to identify this murderer and collect the evidence necessary to put the murderer away. JMO.

Close - I am waiting on DMV info - impatiently of course.

right raisin....you're right indeed.....it would have to take a LOT of time to get everything investigated, ESPECIALLY (if it's true) if JY is not cooperating.....20 officers sounds like a lot, but when you spread them out over different areas of an investigation, it's not all THAT many....

lol, i'll try to be more patient :blushing: .....afterall, i DO want LE to nail whoever did this, & i DON'T want any holes in the case at all!!!

heading out for a bowling match .... later all

 

[close_enough]

Somewhere in these many many threads it was posted that Jason called Michelle twice and received no answer. He thought nothing of it because MY was to be at the Doctor? I know when my kids where two they would answer the phone. Wonder if he called the house or her cell? I wish we knew more......

ok, i read this also, over at ctv from a 'friend' of JY's....apparently this is what JY told some friends at the funeral...(if we want to believe this)....he said he called Michelle twice that Friday morning, but got her voicemail, but didn't think anything of it.....

(if this is true, i just wonder if he left a message?)

 

[close_enough]

Or....When she went to unlock the door it was unlocked and maybe open a little. Who would bother to lock it after the murder? Jason or an intruder?

well....could be, but i tend to think the door was locked..well closed anyway....if the door had been opened, i think that would have been something Meredith would have mentioned in her 911 call...(but i could be wrong)

 

[close_enough]

Here's a portion of it, courtesy of the NG Show. Go to the very bottom.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/16/ng.01.html

this is a very good transcript of the beginning of the call, however there's much more...

thanks Bee!

ok...i REALLY have to gooooooooo!

 

[scandi]

Good Morning,

I guess my question that got lost was the last one on the previous thread, but I was wondering if anything has been said about a safety gate at the top of the stairs? I thought I read a post by Strach where she said it was closed. Has anyone read anything about this?

I'm trying to think like a profiler after watching a Daryl Hinman marathon last week!~ LOL

I think whoever killed Michelle took care to do certain things after the murder that showed caring for Stephanie. She evidently was left in the room with her mom to have gotten blood on her feet, or at least been able to walk into her mom's bedroom:

a} If there was a gate and it was secured before the killer went back down the stairs, it says to me they wanted the baby safe from harm and seperated from the dog.
b} After the dispatcher on the 911 call told her not to move anything, Meridith said she had moved a pillow. That tells me there was a reason to move it which would have to be she wanted to see something that would be underneath it. Like a face, right, to see if it indeed was her sister.

That would mean the killer took time to toss or set a pillow over whatever it was. Why? Michelle was found on her stomach, but part of her face could have been visible. Tradition says that when someone dies you cover their face, right? I think this was part of the instructions given to whomever actually killed her.

c} The house was not broken into.

To me all these factors, if they are fact, add up to the great possibility that the killer was someone close to Michelle or instructed by someone personally attached to her. It is unusual I think for the bit of decorum with the pillow and concern for the safety of the baby.

Reading through today's posts I see we really have very little to even speculate with which is too bad. We're pulling at straws. But if the Sheriff meant what he said when he used the words 'persons who did this' it intimates more than one person being involved in her death. I take that as fact from what he said. Moving the pillow is a fact. The baby being left with access to her mom, as shown by bloody footprints is a fact {though I think 'all over the house' could have been an exageration caused by the trauma of the scene}.

I also think the office where the fax machine was could have been upstairs adjacent to the MB as it is in so many houses, which is why Meridith possibly headed upstairs.

Scandi

 

[hollyjokers]

It's not going to be as cut & dried as you think, even if he is the killer. Finding his DNA in the house means absolutely nothing because he lives there. Even if they have a strand of his hair on the bloody pillow, or a funky toenail on the floor beside Michelle's head, it could have been there prior. They have to have something very concrete. Hard as it is we are all just going to have to wait, otherwise, Michelle will not get the justice she deserves.

 

[raisincharlie]

Here's a portion of it, courtesy of the NG Show. Go to the very bottom.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0611/16/ng.01.html

Bee Charmer

Thank you very much. So you know- I've been listening to the parts where Meredith is commenting that Michelle was suppose to be at work and her comment about it being a fluke that she (Meredith) would come by the house during the day.


I'm studying on what this means with respect to the "friends" claiming MY had a Drs appointment and that JY called MY twice the morning of the murder and the phone went to voice mail....the fluke comment is also interesting - just haven't figured my own take on that yet. Again - thanks for your assistance !