Millard Properties: Locations and Ownership

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1907-33 Mill Street, pls check out this data dump, line 242 owner is Dellen Millard

http://pastebin.com/hSG0isZJ

Is this data dump from the MLS listing? It appears to match this one from 2009:

http://www.simsonchu.com/sold_listings.asp?listing_id={518D5EDB-200B-494A-B25B-EA72010D6B8B}

The data dump also says that it was a one year lease and the original price was $2,400. Since it "sold" for $2,400, I would assume that's the rental cost and "sold" means rented.

There are a few rental units in that building.

http://oroproperties.ca/?property_location=distillery

Is there a way to do a data dump like that from the new listing?
 
Is this data dump from the MLS listing? It appears to match this one from 2009:

http://www.simsonchu.com/sold_listings.asp?listing_id={518D5EDB-200B-494A-B25B-EA72010D6B8B}

Yes they both have the same MLS number. The data dump has more info that what is displayed in the ad.

The data dump also says that it was a one year lease and the original price was $2,400. Since it "sold" for $2,400, I would assume that's the rental cost and "sold" means rented.

There are a few rental units in that building.

http://oroproperties.ca/?property_location=distillery

Is there a way to do a data dump like that from the new listing?

I think they are one and the same. The dump is all the fields available, and the ad shows some of them. It's the exact same data except the dump shows "owner: Dellen Millard". So I assume he is the landlord not the renter. He's getting $28.8k/yr.
 
I believe there was only one condo on Distillery Lane. The confusion came with the numbers 609 and 611 being related to that one and only condo transaction, and MsSherlock explained how this occurred as follows:

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And yes, I have wondered the very same thing about the Vaughan condo.
Thanks to a query from Matou, I have another property to add to the list. 1907-33 Mill Street (Distillery District) Purchased for $376K in May 15/2009 and sold Nov 25/2011 for $446K. Held in DM's name.
 
Thanks to a query from Matou, I have another property to add to the list. 1907-33 Mill Street (Distillery District) Purchased for $376K in May 15/2009 and sold Nov 25/2011 for $446K. Held in DM's name.

So can we assume these were properties he was flipping? Ones where he stated he was only breaking even. Although the article says houses, maybe condos also? Does that make it four condos now which DM owned?

For a time he bought houses for renovating and flipping — a career path he says abandoned when he realized he was only breaking even. After his arrest, several properties in Millard’s name were transferred to his mother and sold.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html
 
So can we assume these were properties he was flipping? Ones where he stated he was only breaking even. Although the article says houses, maybe condos also? Does that make it four condos now which DM owned?

For a time he bought houses for renovating and flipping — a career path he says abandoned when he realized he was only breaking even. After his arrest, several properties in Millard’s name were transferred to his mother and sold.

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...didnt_kill_tim_bosma_exclusive_interview.html
The Toronto Condo market has been a magnet to investors for a long time. They're bought before the shovel is even in the ground and then sold once they're finished, usually netting the investor a profit. This one was advertised for sale as "new", so I doubt that DM lived there full time, but rather used it for entertainment purposes. There wasn't a huge profit on this one when you consider land transfer tax, commissions and legal fees. MOO
 
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I know how hard you work at these lists SnooperDuper but I think you forgot to put the Riverside sold information in there.

So all he has left is the hangar that is probably mortgaged to the hilt and the condo in Vaughan close to where his mother lives?
 
I know how hard you work at these lists SnooperDuper but I think you forgot to put the Riverside sold information in there.

So all he has left is the hangar that is probably mortgaged to the hilt and the condo in Vaughan close to where his mother lives?

Still for sale, though the bank placed a $3.8M charge against it ???

https://www.collierscanada.com/11621#.U2AY4VdWVPk

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/08/dellen-millards-mother-sells-more-of-his-properties.html

ETA: And I suspect WM/DM got this in 2008 after CM's death, so the 2007 acquision date might not be technically correct
 
Still for sale, though the bank placed a $3.8M charge against it ???

https://www.collierscanada.com/11621#.U2AY4VdWVPk

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/08/dellen-millards-mother-sells-more-of-his-properties.html

ETA: And I suspect WM/DM got this in 2008 after CM's death, so the 2007 acquision date might not be technically correct

So the 3.8 million may be what is owing on the hangar? And the bank, seeing what was going on, has put a lien on it?

ETA: What's with the confidentiality agreement? ;)
 
Maybe they don't want anybody dissing the soup cans...

http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/2...tml?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed

The house Burns sold on Maple Gate Court is where Millard grew up. It has been in the family for three generations. It’s also the home where Millard’s father, Wayne, apparently killed himself last November. That case was reopened by Toronto police after Millard was arrested in connection with Bosma’s death.

Paradkar said Millard had been thinking about selling the house since his father’s death, and well before his arrest in May. He also said Millard always intended to flip the condo in the Distillery District, but his arrest expedited both transactions.

The home was host to pool parties with Millard’s schoolmates, and a bevy of cats and dogs lived there throughout the years, friends and family said.

When the Star visited the home, which backs onto a golf course, in May following a police investigation, it was a mess, with clothing, documents and cans of soup strewn throughout. The only thing moving was a black cat.

Millard still owns three other properties the Star is aware of: the farm in Ayr where Bosma’s charred remains were found; a rental property on Riverside Dr. in Toronto; and a condo in Vaughan.
 
So the 3.8 million may be what is owing on the hangar? And the bank, seeing what was going on, has put a lien on it?

ETA: What's with the confidentiality agreement? ;)
Kamille, IMO, the "Confidentiality Agreement" that Collier's has to offer the Buyer some form of written guarantee that Collier's will not provide any information about the buyer to anyone-and also avoid any potential breaches of Ontario real estate "Agency" laws. This may have been put into place after it was discovered who purchased the farm and perhaps perceived "bad" publicity surrounding a "DM" related property deal. The caveat? Once the deal closes, it becomes public information, and unlike the farm, the 6-plex doesn't have the same stigma. MOO
 
Still for sale, though the bank placed a $3.8M charge against it ???

https://www.collierscanada.com/11621#.U2AY4VdWVPk

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/08/dellen-millards-mother-sells-more-of-his-properties.html

ETA: And I suspect WM/DM got this in 2008 after CM's death, so the 2007 acquision date might not be technically correct
BTW Snooper- thank you so much for compiling the property list!! My apologies for falling asleep at the switch when everyone was looking for the latest condo info! lol It's so annoying when work gets in the way of sleuthing!!! :scared:
 
Still for sale, though the bank placed a $3.8M charge against it ???

https://www.collierscanada.com/11621#.U2AY4VdWVPk

http://www.annrbrocklehurst.com/2013/08/dellen-millards-mother-sells-more-of-his-properties.html

ETA: And I suspect WM/DM got this in 2008 after CM's death, so the 2007 acquision date might not be technically correct

WM and CM were on title together (probably for estate purposes) and then it transferred to WM in 2007 after CM died. About 3 months later, in 2007, it was transferred to DM for $1.1 million, but I believe that WM held the mortgage for it. I don't have time right now to look for the post, but I think this info came from MsSherlock way back early in the thread. Maybe MsSherlock will remember and correct me if I'm wrong.
 
BTW Snooper- thank you so much for compiling the property list!! My apologies for falling asleep at the switch when everyone was looking for the latest condo info! lol It's so annoying when work gets in the way of sleuthing!!! :scared:

No biggie, you're the star ;) ty
 
Kamille, IMO, the "Confidentiality Agreement" that Collier's has to offer the Buyer some form of written guarantee that Collier's will not provide any information about the buyer to anyone-and also avoid any potential breaches of Ontario real estate "Agency" laws. This may have been put into place after it was discovered who purchased the farm and perhaps perceived "bad" publicity surrounding a "DM" related property deal. The caveat? Once the deal closes, it becomes public information, and unlike the farm, the 6-plex doesn't have the same stigma. MOO

Isn't this the other way around? If the potential buyer wants additional information, they have to download and sign the confidentiality agreement. If you read the agreement, it is stating that the potential buyer agrees that any information provided by the agent will be kept confidential and that, if the purchase does not go through, they will return or destroy all materials containing information without retaining copies.

JMO
 
Isn't this the other way around? If the potential buyer wants additional information, they have to download and sign the confidentiality agreement. If you read the agreement, it is stating that the potential buyer agrees that any information provided by the agent will be kept confidential and that, if the purchase does not go through, they will return or destroy all materials containing information without retaining copies.

JMO
Alethea- just read it again and you are very correct. :floorlaugh: Obvious brain fog!!

OK, now that you've straightened me out, IMO, this now seems strange. Why would potential buyers be asked to sign this, especially since it's no secret that DM owns it? Anything registered against it is public info.

What would be something that must be kept confidential? #1: perhaps MB is no longer POA for DM? #2: Perhaps something was found on the property and it must be disclosed to a potential buyer? #3: Perhaps someone relevant to the case lives there?

Aside for that, I can't think of any reason why such an agreement would be necessary- but I'm open to suggestions!. JMHO
 
Alethea- just read it again and you are very correct. :floorlaugh: Obvious brain fog!!

OK, now that you've straightened me out, IMO, this now seems strange. Why would potential buyers be asked to sign this, especially since it's no secret that DM owns it? Anything registered against it is public info.

What would be something that must be kept confidential? #1: perhaps MB is no longer POA for DM? #2: Perhaps something was found on the property and it must be disclosed to a potential buyer? #3: Perhaps someone relevant to the case lives there?

Aside for that, I can't think of any reason why such an agreement would be necessary- but I'm open to suggestions!. JMHO

My guess is existing tenancies should be kept confidential. If a serious buyer is doing due diligence they will want to see a rent roll. That info should be kept private if deal falls apart.

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