Elliot_Alderson
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to be murder there has intent to kill i cant see they proe that beyound reasonable doubt
I think they proved it or a jury wouldn't have convicted him.
to be murder there has intent to kill i cant see they proe that beyound reasonable doubt
Guilty,Guilty and Guilty.to be murder there has intent to kill i cant see they proe that beyound reasonable doubt
Try this.to be murder there has intent to kill i cant see they proe that beyound reasonable doubt
Was beyond reasonable doubt met in this case when all the evidence is viewed?
I'm not sure the jury in this case based their verdict on all of the evidence that is available at this time. JMO.Yes for this jury. Of course there are people who won't see the charges as proven but only the jurors' verdicts matter.
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Chauvin Jury Instructions 041921 | PDF | Assault | Burden Of Proof (Law)
Judge Peter Cahill's instructions to jurors as they begin deliberation in the Derek Chauvin trial, April 19, 2021.www.scribd.com
So they were following their training then?
Does that not undermine their culpability - not entirely - but a little bit?
What? Evidence was presented at trial. There is no new exonerating evidence...2 CentsI'm not sure the jury in this case based their verdict on all of the evidence that is available at this time. JMO.
Lane was the cop who approached George sitting in the driver's seat and within seconds pulled his gun on him and and began throwing out the "F" word at him.I was thinking of it. Came to the conclusion that I feel somewhat sorry for Lane, for whom it was his first day of work, and Kueng. Two rookie cops. I watched the video from the very beginning. Kueng and Land were the first to make the arrest, and before the car with Chauvin and Thao appeared, I didn't see excessive force by either Lang or Kueng. Please correct me if I am wrong. All changed when the car with Chauvin appeared. And I suspect there was a good reason why Floyd refused to get into Chauvin's car, and he was right. I also have the feeling that Thao, who seems more indifferent than cruel, knew something about Chauvin (being a distant relative of Chauvin's wife), and obviously didn't want to intervene. Personally, I feel that neither Lane nor Kueng were bad apples at that point, but with officers like Chauvin training them, their future as cops was almost predestined.
I'm not so sure about the jury getting all the evidence needed to come to a valid verdict after seeing some things in recent reports. Specifically the fact that police,including the defendant,were trained to use the MRT restraint method and the jury was not informed of that fact.What? Evidence was presented at trial. There is no new exonerating evidence...2 Cents
Nonetheless, of all the evidence presented in Chauvin's defence, perhaps the most convincing relates to his use of the Maximum Restraint Technique.
Former Minneapolis Police Chief Medaria Arradondo testified in court that the method of restraint was not used in police training.
But courageous and credible current and former Minneapolis officers — previously censored, claims Collin — interviewed in the film effectively accuse Arradondo of committing perjury, insisting they were trained to use it.
I'm not so sure about the jury getting all the evidence needed to come to a valid verdict after seeing some things in recent reports. Specifically the fact that police,including the defendant,were trained to use the MRT restraint method and the jury was not informed of that fact.
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Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.www.dailymail.co.uk
Lane was the cop who approached George sitting in the driver's seat and within seconds pulled his gun on him and and began throwing out the "F" word at him.
Right from the get-go Lane opened with a salvo that was totally unprofessional and uncalled for. Had he handled the situation calmly, respectfully and professionally when approaching Floyd it could have ended up with giving Floyd a citation for passing a counterfeit 20 and not being part of torturing a man to death which in return ruined his career and landed his *advertiser censored* in prison and rightfully so.
state of minnesota
Minnesota Judicial Branch (.gov)
https://www.mncourts.gov › Order10212020
) Seconds later, Lane pulled his gun, pointed it at Floyd, and yelled at him to “put your hands up right now.” (Id. at 8:09:41-:45.) Floyd asked Lane.
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Maybe. And the lethal amount of drugs in George Floyds system makes me wonder.Yes touching the neck was completely dropped from training after trial but DC did not follow the proper protocols inherent in the neck training. The "neck training" was never meant to allow officers to simply apply pressure to the neck and then "that is that."
No, there are entire protocols to follow from de-escalation to assessing breathing to turning the person onto their side to stopping when person is in hand cuffs and subdued.... Etc...
Documentary was very selective -slanted. It was deliberately produced to make people think justice wasn't served in the State District Court of Minnesota. This (click bait) gets ratings.
The center of the defense was that DC was following his training and the defense was given an entire trial to convince the jury of this but clearly DC did not follow the "neck training."
DC did not follow training procedures in several ways....
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Police testimony: Derek Chauvin was trained to avoid neck pressure
Law enforcement officers continue to testify in the George Floyd case.www.politico.com
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Derek Chauvin’s Defense Argues He Was Just Doing What He Was Trained to Do
On day 7, prosecutors call police training specialists.slate.com
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EXPLAINER: Was officer's knee on Floyd's neck authorized?
CHICAGO (AP) — A critical factor for jurors to consider at a former Minneapolis police officer's trial in George Floyd's death is whether he violated the department's policy on neck restraints when he knelt on Floyd's neck.apnews.com
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Police chief: Kneeling on Floyd's neck violated policy
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The Minneapolis police chief testified Monday that now-fired Officer Derek Chauvin violated departmental policy — and went against “our principles and the values that we have” — in pressing his knee on George Floyd’s neck and keeping him down after Floyd had stopped resisting andapnews.com
Maybe. And the lethal amount of drugs in George Floyds system makes me wonder.