GUILTY MN - George Floyd, 46, killed in police custody, Minneapolis, 25 May 2020 #21
- Thread starter Tippy Lynn
- Start date
New Posts
-
4 Univ of Idaho Students Murdered, Bryan Kohberger Arrested, Moscow, Nov 2022 #95
- Latest: I am not Sherlock H.
Guilty,Guilty and Guilty.
This explains why Chauvin is where he is, 22.5 yrs plus 3yrs for Federal guilty plea.
What to know about the charges in the Derek Chauvin trial
Minnesota Second-Degree Murder
Try this.
"Floyd's bodily injury and death. In the plea documents, Chauvin agreed that the sentencing for this crime should be based on the sentence for second-degree murder because he acted willfully and in callous and wanton disregard of the consequences to Mr. Floyd's life."
Jul 7, 2022
Former Minneapolis Police Officer Derek Chauvin Sentenced ...
Department of Justice (.gov)
https://www.justice.gov › opa › former-minneapolis-poli
investikater
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Sep 17, 2021
- Messages
- 931
- Reaction score
- 4,118
Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.
Nothing in the documentary does (highlighted below) to the state's evidence presented at trial to Chauvin and his 3 's convictions on state or federal charges
Liz Collin's documentary is following Dinesh D'Souza's "2,000 Mules" into the right-wing dust heap.
"A new documentary, The Fall Of Minneapolis, has re-examined the case and reached some startling conclusions. The myth of an innocent Floyd callously murdered by a racist cop is not only questioned — but shaken to its core."
www.dailymail.co.uk
Liz Collin's documentary is following Dinesh D'Souza's "2,000 Mules" into the right-wing dust heap.
"A new documentary, The Fall Of Minneapolis, has re-examined the case and reached some startling conclusions. The myth of an innocent Floyd callously murdered by a racist cop is not only questioned — but shaken to its core."
Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.
Last edited:
Cool Cats
I EXPECT DOUGHNUTS
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2018
- Messages
- 12,355
- Reaction score
- 95,070
Yes for this jury. Of course there are people who won't see the charges as proven but only the jurors' verdicts matter.
Chauvin Jury Instructions 041921 | PDF | Assault | Burden Of Proof (Law)
Judge Peter Cahill's instructions to jurors as they begin deliberation in the Derek Chauvin trial, April 19, 2021.
Attachments
Cool Cats
I EXPECT DOUGHNUTS
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2018
- Messages
- 12,355
- Reaction score
- 95,070
Federal Inmate Indicted in Brutal Stabbing of Derek Chauvin After Telling Investigators He Intended to Kill Ex-Cop but Guards Showed Up Too Soon
John Turscak, accused of stabbing Derek Chauvin, is indicted
A grand jury has indicted the man accused of stabbing Derek Chauvin 22 times in federal prison.
Download PDF - INDICTMENT
A federal inmate was indicted this week in the brutal stabbing of former Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin in an Arizona prison library in late November.
John Turscak, 52, faces charges of attempted murder, assault with intent to commit murder, assault with a dangerous weapon and assault resulting in serious bodily injury after Chauvin was stabbed 22 times at the Tuscon Federal Correctional Institution.
Turscak is serving a 30-year prison sentence for carrying out crimes while working as a federal informant. His arraignment in Chauvin's stabbing is set for Jan. 5.
Last edited:
RANCH
United we stand, divided we fall.
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2008
- Messages
- 18,078
- Reaction score
- 37,803
I'm not sure the jury in this case based their verdict on all of the evidence that is available at this time. JMO.Yes for this jury. Of course there are people who won't see the charges as proven but only the jurors' verdicts matter.
Chauvin Jury Instructions 041921 | PDF | Assault | Burden Of Proof (Law)
Judge Peter Cahill's instructions to jurors as they begin deliberation in the Derek Chauvin trial, April 19, 2021.www.scribd.com
Charlot123
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2018
- Messages
- 9,019
- Reaction score
- 60,539
I was thinking of it. Came to the conclusion that I feel somewhat sorry for Lane, for whom it was his first day of work, and Kueng. Two rookie cops. I watched the video from the very beginning. Kueng and Land were the first to make the arrest, and before the car with Chauvin and Thao appeared, I didn't see excessive force by either Lang or Kueng. Please correct me if I am wrong. All changed when the car with Chauvin appeared. And I suspect there was a good reason why Floyd refused to get into Chauvin's car, and he was right. I also have the feeling that Thao, who seems more indifferent than cruel, knew something about Chauvin (being a distant relative of Chauvin's wife), and obviously didn't want to intervene. Personally, I feel that neither Lane nor Kueng were bad apples at that point, but with officers like Chauvin training them, their future as cops was almost predestined.
Cool Cats
I EXPECT DOUGHNUTS
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2018
- Messages
- 12,355
- Reaction score
- 95,070
What? Evidence was presented at trial. There is no new exonerating evidence...2 Cents
Last edited:
Lane was the cop who approached George sitting in the driver's seat and within seconds pulled his gun on him and and began throwing out the "F" word at him.
Right from the get-go Lane opened with a salvo that was totally unprofessional and uncalled for. Had he handled the situation calmly, respectfully and professionally when approaching Floyd it could have ended up with giving Floyd a citation for passing a counterfeit 20 and not being part of torturing a man to death which in return ruined his career and landed his *advertiser censored* in prison and rightfully so.
state of minnesota
Minnesota Judicial Branch (.gov)
https://www.mncourts.gov › Order10212020
) Seconds later, Lane pulled his gun, pointed it at Floyd, and yelled at him to “put your hands up right now.” (Id. at 8:09:41-:45.) Floyd asked Lane.
107 pages
RANCH
United we stand, divided we fall.
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2008
- Messages
- 18,078
- Reaction score
- 37,803
I'm not so sure about the jury getting all the evidence needed to come to a valid verdict after seeing some things in recent reports. Specifically the fact that police,including the defendant,were trained to use the MRT restraint method and the jury was not informed of that fact.
Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.
Cool Cats
I EXPECT DOUGHNUTS
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2018
- Messages
- 12,355
- Reaction score
- 95,070
I'm not so sure about the jury getting all the evidence needed to come to a valid verdict after seeing some things in recent reports. Specifically the fact that police,including the defendant,were trained to use the MRT restraint method and the jury was not informed of that fact.
Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.
The center of the defense was that DC was following his training and the defense was given an entire trial to convince the jury of this.
Yes touching the neck was completely dropped from training after trial but DC did not follow the proper protocols inherent in the neck training. The "neck training" was never meant to allow officers to simply apply pressure to the neck and then "that is that."
No, there are entire protocols to follow from de-escalation to assessing breathing to turning the person onto their side to stopping when person is in hand cuffs and subdued to doing an entire health assessment...... Etc...
Floyd was sudued, in hand cuffs, on stomach not side, complaining of not breathing not feeling good, already held down by 2 other officers.....ETC....None of this supports neck restraint/pressure of any kind.....Floyd was already restrained /subdued.
Documentary was very selective -slanted. It was deliberately produced to make people think justice wasn't served in the State District Court of Minnesota. This (click bait) gets ratings.
Police testimony: Derek Chauvin was trained to avoid neck pressure
Law enforcement officers continue to testify in the George Floyd case.
www.politico.com
Derek Chauvin’s Defense Argues He Was Just Doing What He Was Trained to Do
On day 7, prosecutors call police training specialists.
EXPLAINER: Was officer's knee on Floyd's neck authorized?
CHICAGO (AP) — A critical factor for jurors to consider at a former Minneapolis police officer's trial in George Floyd's death is whether he violated the department's policy on neck restraints when he knelt on Floyd's neck.
apnews.com
Police chief: Kneeling on Floyd's neck violated policy
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The Minneapolis police chief testified Monday that now-fired Officer Derek Chauvin violated departmental policy — and went against “our principles and the values that we have” — in pressing his knee on George Floyd’s neck and keeping him down after Floyd had stopped resisting and
apnews.com
Last edited:
Charlot123
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Jul 29, 2018
- Messages
- 9,019
- Reaction score
- 60,539
True. A citation would have been a better choice. Why they chose otherwise might have to do with the call itself (maybe there were some rules re. counterfeit money, we'll never know). However, T. Lane at least performed CPR on Floyd.
RANCH
United we stand, divided we fall.
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2008
- Messages
- 18,078
- Reaction score
- 37,803
Maybe. And the lethal amount of drugs in George Floyds system makes me wonder.Yes touching the neck was completely dropped from training after trial but DC did not follow the proper protocols inherent in the neck training. The "neck training" was never meant to allow officers to simply apply pressure to the neck and then "that is that."
No, there are entire protocols to follow from de-escalation to assessing breathing to turning the person onto their side to stopping when person is in hand cuffs and subdued.... Etc...
Documentary was very selective -slanted. It was deliberately produced to make people think justice wasn't served in the State District Court of Minnesota. This (click bait) gets ratings.
The center of the defense was that DC was following his training and the defense was given an entire trial to convince the jury of this but clearly DC did not follow the "neck training."
DC did not follow training procedures in several ways....
Police testimony: Derek Chauvin was trained to avoid neck pressure
Law enforcement officers continue to testify in the George Floyd case.Derek Chauvin’s Defense Argues He Was Just Doing What He Was Trained to Do
On day 7, prosecutors call police training specialists.slate.com
EXPLAINER: Was officer's knee on Floyd's neck authorized?
CHICAGO (AP) — A critical factor for jurors to consider at a former Minneapolis police officer's trial in George Floyd's death is whether he violated the department's policy on neck restraints when he knelt on Floyd's neck.Police chief: Kneeling on Floyd's neck violated policy
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — The Minneapolis police chief testified Monday that now-fired Officer Derek Chauvin violated departmental policy — and went against “our principles and the values that we have” — in pressing his knee on George Floyd’s neck and keeping him down after Floyd had stopped resisting and
Cool Cats
I EXPECT DOUGHNUTS
- Joined
- Dec 21, 2018
- Messages
- 12,355
- Reaction score
- 95,070
Nothing in the coroner's report says Floyd had a lethal amount of any drug in his system. The neck compression led to his cardiopulmonary arrest. The entirety of LE subduing him, restraining him, and pressing on his neck obstructing breathing caused his cardiac arrest. LE literally gave him a heart attack. Sad.
George Floyd Autopsy (FULL REPORT) | PDF | Coronary Circulation | Tetrahydrocannabinol
"46-year-old man who became unresponsive while being restrained by law enforcement officers; he received emergency medical care in the field and subsequently in the Hennepin HealthCare (HHC) Emergency Department, but could not be resuscitated."
Last edited:
RANCH
United we stand, divided we fall.
- Joined
- Dec 18, 2008
- Messages
- 18,078
- Reaction score
- 37,803
In any other circumstances, the quantities of fentanyl and methamphetamines he had taken would be sufficient to class his death as an overdose, according to Dr Andrew Baker, who performed the autopsy.
Several of Floyd's arteries were 75 per cent blocked from severe underlying heart disease. He was also suffering from Covid.
Put all of this together and even the smallest increase in heart rate could have proved fatal. The medical examiner stated: 'Floyd had Fentanyl at 11ng/ml [nanograms per millilitre] but deaths have been certified [with] levels of 3.
'If he had been found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes this could be acceptable to call an OD [overdose].'
www.dailymail.co.uk
Several of Floyd's arteries were 75 per cent blocked from severe underlying heart disease. He was also suffering from Covid.
Put all of this together and even the smallest increase in heart rate could have proved fatal. The medical examiner stated: 'Floyd had Fentanyl at 11ng/ml [nanograms per millilitre] but deaths have been certified [with] levels of 3.
'If he had been found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes this could be acceptable to call an OD [overdose].'
Documentary dares to question what is known of George Floyd's killing
White police officer Derek Chauvin, attempting to arrest the unarmed George Floyd, had knelt on his neck for nine minutes and 29 seconds, while Floyd gasped for air.