MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #12

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The "medical cop" thing is so odd, especially because there aren't even results on google for that term. Did the man say something else, and Kevin, with police on his mind, assuming this was the owner of what he believed to be an undercover car, heard it as "_____ cop?" Maybe he said "mechanic?" "Medical clerk?" "I'm married to a cop?" "I'm off the clock?" "I wanna be a cop?" "I've a medical job?" "I'm a medic, son?" Perhaps he actually was a doctor, and joked that he was a "medical cop" in reply to Kevin's question.
 
The "medical cop" thing is so odd, especially because there aren't even results on google for that term. Did the man say something else, and Kevin, with police on his mind, assuming this was the owner of what he believed to be an undercover car, heard it as "_____ cop?" Maybe he said "mechanic?" "Medical clerk?" "I'm married to a cop?" "I'm off the clock?" "I wanna be a cop?" "I've a medical job?" "I'm a medic, son?" Perhaps he actually was a doctor, and joked that he was a "medical cop" in reply to Kevin's question.

Exactly what I was thinking!

I wonder if Kevin was drinking while playing cards. I wonder if his mind was a little fuzzy and he misheard what the " cop" said. Off the clock sounds good.

And if indeed the GF's brother was a firefighter, this makes it all the more BIZARRE as to why all of those people kept it quiet that Kevin drove down there.

The Wetterlings were BEGGING for any tidbit of info. So incredible that none of them mentioned a thing!
 
It's strange he wasn't charged with anything i.e witholding information. He should have been waiting that long to come forward
 
Personally, it doesn't seem that strange to me for Kevin not to report what he saw; we know nothing about him or his life. It obviously would have been the right thing to do. There is no excuse for not coming forward, because who knows how much time, effort, and money he might have saved the police. But maybe he'd experienced some sort of traumatic event in his life involving a police officer. Maybe he or a family member had had some sort of trouble with the law, and he was untrusting. The same goes for his girlfriend. It doesn't justify his actions, but I can see many scenarios in which they weren't flat-out malicious. Willingly involving himself in a case of a kidnapped child, when there are no other suspects, where there is evidence he was at the scene was probably a bit scary; we can see, now, that the case was handled poorly. Kevin, knowing the police officers, possibly expected no better from them. At the same time, I wonder how much effort even would have had to be put forth by the police to find Kevin.

Also, the night of a kidnapping, someone comes into the store Jacob was last seen at and randomly begins questioning bystanders: Are you a cop? Did you call the cops? It's almost disturbing that that itself wasn't reported prior to Kevin's story. Surely, the person behind the counter was questioned? Did he really not mention that incident to the police? It would have seemed suspicious to me. It really is a wonder Kevin wasn't a POI. His actions that night easily should have made him one. Why didn't those things interest the police?
 
Exactly what I was thinking!

I wonder if Kevin was drinking while playing cards. I wonder if his mind was a little fuzzy and he misheard what the " cop" said. Off the clock sounds good.

And if indeed the GF's brother was a firefighter, this makes it all the more BIZARRE as to why all of those people kept it quiet that Kevin drove down there.

The Wetterlings were BEGGING for any tidbit of info. So incredible that none of them mentioned a thing!

Makes you wonder how many other people in town withheld things because they didn't want to be involved or suspected. Hopefully 25 years later, this new push for info will get some of them talking.
 
What is worse?

Kevin waiting 15 years to say he took a spin through the driveway, or DR going through 3 contacts with LE before he told them of cars he saw at the time of the abduction?

2 contacts that night, another the following morning when he walked through the crime scene tape. This is criminal.

I say none of the above. Kevin did tell a cop what he saw that night. Shouldn't the responsibility of the encounter fall on the police officer that Kevin reported to? LE asked for the.public's help in finding cars and their drivers several blocks away, and up to a couple of weeks before the kidnapping. Yet, I've never seen an article where LE was looking for a car seen at the actual abduction spot. Not until after Kevin came forward did they say they had been looking for a car for fourteen years.

They did say there were fresh tire tracks, but to my knowledge they never asked for help finding the car that left them.
 
Personally, it doesn't seem that strange to me for Kevin not to report what he saw; we know nothing about him or his life. It obviously would have been the right thing to do. There is no excuse for not coming forward, because who knows how much time, effort, and money he might have saved the police. But maybe he'd experienced some sort of traumatic event in his life involving a police officer. Maybe he or a family member had had some sort of trouble with the law, and he was untrusting. The same goes for his girlfriend. It doesn't justify his actions, but I can see many scenarios in which they weren't flat-out malicious. Willingly involving himself in a case of a kidnapped child, when there are no other suspects, where there is evidence he was at the scene was probably a bit scary; we can see, now, that the case was handled poorly. Kevin, knowing the police officers, possibly expected no better from them. At the same time, I wonder how much effort even would have had to be put forth by the police to find Kevin.

Also, the night of a kidnapping, someone comes into the store Jacob was last seen at and randomly begins questioning bystanders: Are you a cop? Did you call the cops? It's almost disturbing that that itself wasn't reported prior to Kevin's story. Surely, the person behind the counter was questioned? Did he really not mention that incident to the police? It would have seemed suspicious to me. It really is a wonder Kevin wasn't a POI. His actions that night easily should have made him one. Why didn't those things interest the police?

I think it didn't interest the police and Kevin was never made a POI because Kevin's gf's mom knew he was at her house playing cards when the cop cars went flying by in answer to Merle's 911 call. So Jacob's abduction had already taken place. I do think it wouldn't have been that hard for LE to locate Kevin, the clerk and Kevin were both locals, they maybe knew each other (small town) - or at least the clerk could have given a description of Kevin. Seems like no one was volunteering any information to LE at all.

It sounded to me from that article like the gf's brother was actually "warning" Kevin that the officers were taking tire prints. So crazy that so many people who knew Kevin had driven in there said nothing.
 
I think it didn't interest the police and Kevin was never made a POI because Kevin's gf's mom knew he was at her house playing cards when the cop cars went flying by in answer to Merle's 911 call. So Jacob's abduction had already taken place. I do think it wouldn't have been that hard for LE to locate Kevin, the clerk and Kevin were both locals, they maybe knew each other (small town) - or at least the clerk could have given a description of Kevin. Seems like no one was volunteering any information to LE at all.

It sounded to me from that article like the gf's brother was actually "warning" Kevin that the officers were taking tire prints. So crazy that so many people who knew Kevin had driven in there said nothing.

Sorry, I should have been more clear; I don't mean Kevin himself necessarily, more so his actions. I'm surprised the police weren't interested in "a man who walked into the Tom Thumb where Jacob had last been seen, questioning people about police officers." Unless that had been discovered, followed up on, and known to police to be someone with an alibi, which is entirely possible.
 
I say none of the above. Kevin did tell a cop what he saw that night. Shouldn't the responsibility of the encounter fall on the police officer that Kevin reported to? LE asked for the.public's help in finding cars and their drivers several blocks away, and up to a couple of weeks before the kidnapping. Yet, I've never seen an article where LE was looking for a car seen at the actual abduction spot. Not until after Kevin came forward did they say they had been looking for a car for fourteen years.

They did say there were fresh tire tracks, but to my knowledge they never asked for help finding the car that left them.

Good point. That St. Joe cop failed big time in not reporting that Kevin had stopped at his car and talked with him. IMO, that was the cop stationed there to escort the Wetterlings back to their home when they got back to town. To be fair, things may have been so hectic once Wetterlings arrived home and heard from Trevor and Aaron what had happened, that it totally slipped his mind. But he could have mentioned it later in a report.
 
Kevin was in the Tom Thumb or tallkingabout LE in the Tom Thumb???? I have never heard that.

And we have no idea if Kevin talked to LE that night.

He talked only to the "medical cop" right?

Kevin was playing cards with GF, Gf mother and anyone else?

He had an ailbi so why not say something.

A firefighter usually has good relationships with LE so the GF brother is a mystery.

So strange,
 
Good point. That St. Joe cop failed big time in not reporting that Kevin had stopped at his car and talked with him. IMO, that was the cop stationed there to escort the Wetterlings back to their home when they got back to town. To be fair, things may have been so hectic once Wetterlings arrived home and heard from Trevor and Aaron what had happened, that it totally slipped his mind. But he could have mentioned it later in a report.

I don't know why, but I thought the cop was a rookie then, but now is a sheriff's deputy that is investigating the case...
 
Kevin was in the Tom Thumb or tallkingabout LE in the Tom Thumb???? I have never heard that.

And we have no idea if Kevin talked to LE that night.

He talked only to the "medical cop" right?

Kevin was playing cards with GF, Gf mother and anyone else?

He had an ailbi so why not say something.

A firefighter usually has good relationships with LE so the GF brother is a mystery.

So strange,

He said he talked to the medical cop at the Tom Thumb and the cop at cottons.


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Okay, noone wants to discuss MF. Let's just go back to going round and round DR as the only POI. I unfortunately don't have access to as much info as you guys as i'm from the UK. Today is the first time i have heard that MF was investigated and discounted and i sure as hell don't have the time to read all the previous threads.

You may wish to examine DAH. We are stuck as to when he was actually incarcerated. We know when he was supposed to be incarcerated, but we do not know if he actually served the whole time. He is in Moose Lake State Hospital but the different counties are what? I do not know in terms of where he was tried.

We went round and round with the Hubers,

Then there are the Bahners and Lou K.

We have the Polka Padre and many many sex offender priests so there is plenty beyond DR to examine. Maybe you will have some new ideas
 
I've always wondered if the Wetterlings had a cordless phone. I'm sure it was about 1989 and I could hear all my neighbors conversations on a police scanner for at least a two block radius. Could somebody had heard every conversation that the Wetterling family had that day?
 
I've always wondered if the Wetterlings had a cordless phone. I'm sure it was about 1989 and I could hear all my neighbors conversations on a police scanner for at least a two block radius. Could somebody had heard every conversation that the Wetterling family had that day?

This had been extensively discussed on here. Not sure how you search , but many many posts about this topic.
 
I think it didn't interest the police and Kevin was never made a POI because Kevin's gf's mom knew he was at her house playing cards when the cop cars went flying by in answer to Merle's 911 call. So Jacob's abduction had already taken place. I do think it wouldn't have been that hard for LE to locate Kevin, the clerk and Kevin were both locals, they maybe knew each other (small town) - or at least the clerk could have given a description of Kevin. Seems like no one was volunteering any information to LE at all.

It sounded to me from that article like the gf's brother was actually "warning" Kevin that the officers were taking tire prints. So crazy that so many people who knew Kevin had driven in there said nothing.

Which is about the same as today if anyone) knows what happened to JW. Lots of silence.
 
Kevin eventually came forward and did the right thing. As I have said may times, it is good Joy has connected with DR and brought more attention to the case. Were the police perfect, certainly not; but they did have the FBI there in hours. As I have said before, without a car the suspect pool becomes very limited.
 
A very interesting article that points out what can be learned and taken if footprints are left behind-

http://sifs.in/blog/forensic-significance-of-footmarks/

If a perp footprint was found they can possibly address the manner in how that person walks, how tall the person is, if the person is flat footed, what he weighs, and more. Wow.
 
Okay, noone wants to discuss MF. Let's just go back to going round and round DR as the only POI. I unfortunately don't have access to as much info as you guys as i'm from the UK. Today is the first time i have heard that MF was investigated and discounted and i sure as hell don't have the time to read all the previous threads.

I don't think it's that nobody wants to discuss MF but so far investigation as to his involvement has not been proven...and it appears he was not involved(LE dismissed him twice) and WS discussed him at length....however, he is most definitely suspicious and his physical presence in the vicinity near the time of the abduction IS a large coincidence. IMO, it's one of those oddities of this case that he happened to pass by the abduction site. His record speaks for itself but IMO he's not directly connected to Jacob's abduction.
 
A very interesting article that points out what can be learned and taken if footprints are left behind-

http://sifs.in/blog/forensic-significance-of-footmarks/

If a perp footprint was found they can possibly address the manner in how that person walks, how tall the person is, if the person is flat footed, what he weighs, and more. Wow.

That's an interesting link. Wish we had more evidence available regarding footprints.
 
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