So how do you feel about the police stating they aren't investigating it as homicide? Are they dropping the ball or waiting before disclosing more information?Please watch the video
So how do you feel about the police stating they aren't investigating it as homicide? Are they dropping the ball or waiting before disclosing more information?Please watch the video
Yes but a lot of information in there......this is only the beginning....Looking at the timing of the comments, and it appears that this episode of NG was prior to the tox results came out. IMO.
MOO, no it is not.This is starting to look like someone committed murders.....
Correct. Those Officers would likely not have any qualified immunity from direct suit. And the County, if the sheriff did indeed authorize this, would have waived its sovereign immunity as well. Which is why I find it hard to believe any LE would engage in this.And wouldn’t there be some civil liability for that? for example Le tested some sort of drug for me, I take it, drive somewhere and crash/kill someone. Wouldn’t LE have a part of the liability like a bartender who over-served a drunk driver.
The beginning of what? An investigation to discover who bought and sold the drugs? If it was JW then there will be more to the story. If it was one of the deceased or the 5th friend, then the supply chain will be investigated.Yes but a lot of information in there......this is only the beginning....
Thanks for your reply!! And not to get too far off topic...IDK. Like many in my larger field, I've had to engage with far too many exposures to Fentanyl in my ER and clinical experience over the past decade especially. I can't recall any where F-laced MJ was thought to be a factor, but that data would often not be available or particularly salient in 1st-line care.
F "enhancement" of pills and grinds is what I have typically seen, but ultimately the fact of F, specifically its potency and availability, and scope of action, are more important IMO than its vehicle.
This case is a nightmare scenario, for sure.
How so?This is starting to look like someone committed murders.....
Yes in the very beginning of this case that's what they (LE) said but I think it was just to let the people involved relax and no worry but who cares what I think.....we all know now that drugs were involved and this investigation will developed much faster now....So how do you feel about the police stating they aren't investigating it as homicide? Are they dropping the ball or waiting before disclosing more information?
We will see...the investigation will go faster now that we know drugs were involved in this caseMOO, no it is not.
I’ve been wondering the same thing.I was wondering ... would they have: ingested (swallowed)/smoked/injected (is fenty 'injectable ?) this inside, and then walked out into the back yard ?
Because I was thinking if it was instant, wouldn't they have been discovered inside the house ?
Did the drugs absorb gradually ?
Omo.
Why do you think 5th man would be mistaken/fib about that? Seems an inconsequential thing to him and his version/timeline of things for him to even bother saying it if wasn't true. And in tandem, why would JW's lawyer, his mouthpiece, say JW was "home sporadically" if from the beginning JW said to him that he never went out?
Is there any fact mentioned in the video that hasn't been previously covered in the three very informative Websleuth threads?Take the time to listen to the whole video...45 minutes....Jordan Willis behavior is very suspicious....
Around Christmas my daughterinlaws nephew and a couple of his friends were admitted into hospital one died two lived it was smoked , apparently it was thought to be a weed and cocaine joint that was laced with fentanyl,so it happens . Fentanyl is so deadly why risk it jmooThanks for your reply!! And not to get too far off topic...
I will say I recently saw a case where some individuals were blowing fentanyl smoke into the face of a newborn with the intention of calming the child. Horrible, I know! They were smoking fentanyl and meth, so it can be smoked and I stand corrected about it not being able to smoke it, though, imo I'm dubious of fentanyl being in marijuana, though not impossible.
A fifth friend, Alex Waemer-Lee, said he left the gathering around 11 p.m. Jan. 7The 5th friend may no exist....lots of stuff not adding up....
The 5th friend may no exist....lots of stuff not adding up....
Based on the facts thus far, Fentanyl was found in their systems according to the tox.We will see...the investigation will go faster now that we know drugs were involved in this case
At least one of the men had to have his car keys in his pocket or jacket. And/or a phone.
They could have got out of the cold before freezing to death.
They had to have been blacked out.
There is no other reasonable explanation.
jmo
Fentanyl (Sublimaze) is the most commonly used opioid during general anesthesia in infants and children.
I agree with you. Weed has been legal in Canada for a while now. When the legislation was in transition, between legal and illegal, police forces were still arresting individuals for possession. Even the cops got involved in the ground floor of commercially produced weed. The OPP had someone who invested in companies as well as a police chief of Toronto, because from their POV it was going to be lucrative for investors. What they didn't realize that a lot of long term users had their own suppliers, some as long as 20 plus years and none of those people were going to be waltzing into a cannabis dispensary for something they could get much cheaper.I was thrilled when IL legalized marijuana. Because you know exactly what you are getting from the dispensary. You just never know where your "guy" is getting his from. It's not worth the risk for me. I believe that fentanyl is sometimes laced in weed. But in this instance, I think the men got a hot batch (laced) of coke.